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| wraper:
Also don't forget that with computers, smartphones and all other stuff being all around nowadays, child might just think that WTF I need to mess with those stupid switches and lamps. |
| tautech:
--- Quote from: wraper on June 12, 2018, 10:01:27 am ---Don't forget the year you were born. What was the best available best back then does not mean it remains so today. --- End quote --- I don't and when I was 7 in '66 dad bought me a Philips 2 transistor electronics set as I'd been playing with batteries and bulbs for a year or so. If kids show some curiosity and interest.....foster it ! |
| Zero999:
--- Quote from: NivagSwerdna on June 12, 2018, 10:00:47 am --- --- Quote from: Hero999 on June 12, 2018, 08:02:14 am --- --- Quote from: NivagSwerdna on June 11, 2018, 04:12:27 pm --- --- Quote from: rthorntn on June 10, 2018, 05:04:25 am ---I'm working with my 7yo daughter to build a traffic light circuit without an MCU --- End quote --- You might be putting her at a disadvantage to those 7yr olds that have already completed their traffic light circuits because they chose to use an Arduino. In fact they probably now have four sets of lights and a full traffic junction coded by now. --- End quote --- You're assuming all the other 7 year olds will be using Arduinios. --- End quote --- Absolutely not. I'm assuming other 7yr olds will be watching Peppa Pig. I am hoping that this 7yo gets given a path of least resistance otherwise they will give up. Incidentally... I remember a long time ago doing Nuffield Physics at school... must have been around 14yo at the time maybe older and we built some traffic lights from some building blocks which were small square plugable grey boxes (presumably gates, multivibrators etc); at 14yo that was about do-able. Maybe young people are smarter nowadays? ;) (PS I was also wondering about suggesting Lego Mindstorms but I haven't used them so can't really comment... even that might be a stretch for a 7yo.) DISCLAIMER: I love Peppa Pig. Especially the parrot episode. :) --- End quote --- If you continuously give children the path of least resistance, they will never learn anything. --- Quote from: wraper on June 12, 2018, 10:01:27 am --- --- Quote from: Hero999 on June 12, 2018, 09:54:50 am --- --- Quote from: wraper on June 12, 2018, 09:50:43 am --- --- Quote from: Hero999 on June 12, 2018, 09:17:34 am --- --- Quote ---Placing artificial limits is discouraging, there must be some sort of success to get encouragement. --- End quote --- It mimics real life. Quite often, it's not feasible to do something the easiest way. --- End quote --- Yeah, show the real life to 7yo :palm:. --- End quote --- That's what being a good parent is about FFS: preparing your children for real life! --- End quote --- :palm: The only thing it can do to the child at such young age is discourage and loose self confidence. --- Quote ---I designed my own circuits using switches, lamps and relays, long before I touched a keyboard and found it easier than coding. There are no commands to remember. --- End quote --- Don't forget the year you were born. What was the best available best back then does not mean it remains so today. --- End quote --- And I started learning electronics when I was a bit younger than that, with minimal support from my dad. I don't think I could have figured out how to use an Ardunio, at the age of 7, had there been such a thing back then. It would have made me completely lose self-confidence, as my reading wasn't good enough to RTFM. I found schematics with switches, relays and lamps much easier to follow, than reading text. Heck, even today, I find schematics easier to follow, than reading lines of code. --- Quote from: wraper on June 12, 2018, 10:09:48 am ---Also don't forget that with computers, smartphones and all other stuff being all around nowadays, child might just think that WTF I need to mess with those stupid switches and lamps. --- End quote --- And I had TV and simple video games, yet it didn't stop me from playing with stupid switches and lamps. Other children had home computers and got into programming in BASIC, but I that didn't interest me that much. It's interesting to see how little children have changed: my 5 year old nephew also likes playing with stupid screws and wood, even with all the more exciting gadgets available today. |
| NivagSwerdna:
--- Quote from: Hero999 on June 12, 2018, 11:17:43 am ---If you continuously give children the path of least resistance, they will never learn anything. --- End quote --- ROFL |
| wraper:
--- Quote from: Hero999 on June 12, 2018, 11:17:43 am ---If you continuously give children the path of least resistance, they will never learn anything. --- End quote --- Arduino is certainly not a path of least resistance. The path of least resistance is when you provide a TV with cartoons and a game console so they can waste their time without bothering you. FFS I hope you don't have any children, otherwise I'm sorry for them. EDIT: I mean that electronics or programming already is not an easy path, to begin with. So making it even more challenging than it could be, especially when you just try getting 7yo into it is just plain stupid. When child got interested and already learns something is when you could give something more challenging to do. |
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