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Title: Un-stucking a Stuck Switching Transistor
Post by: 108CAM on October 17, 2022, 04:22:20 am
I have a flasher relay with a stuck switching transistor, A "TIP 42A" to be exact and was wondering if there's any tricks that can be used to get the transistor unstuck so that I don't have to replace it.
All I know is that I have a switching transistor that doesn't want to switch and is not creating the pulses required to flash the light as it remains on as if it were connected directly to a power source.
Keep in mind that I prefer answers to be explained in simple terms as I don't know the meaning of many technical terms that lots of people use.
Title: Re: Un-stucking a Stuck Switching Transistor
Post by: magic on October 17, 2022, 05:01:35 am
When a transistor is "stuck" permanently in the "ON" state it's either a shorted transistor needing replacement, or something else is "stuck" (i.e. quite likely blown) and permanently pulls current from the transistor's base terminal (this being a PNP).

So if you don't want to replace the transistor you must find a different culprit :P If the rest of the circuit works right and drives the transistor correctly, the transistor needs replacement.

What's the whole circuit like and what can you see happening in it?
Title: Re: Un-stucking a Stuck Switching Transistor
Post by: 108CAM on October 17, 2022, 05:13:37 am
When a transistor is "stuck" permanently in the "ON" state it's either a shorted transistor needing replacement, or something else is "stuck" (i.e. quite likely blown) and permanently pulls current from the transistor's base terminal (this being a PNP).

So if you don't want to replace the transistor you must find a different culprit :P If the rest of the circuit works right and drives the transistor correctly, the transistor needs replacement.

What's the whole circuit like and what can you see happening in it?
The light just stays on but a tiny bit of activity in the transistor is still happening because the light dims slightly at the time it should turn off.
Title: Re: Un-stucking a Stuck Switching Transistor
Post by: magic on October 17, 2022, 05:31:43 am
It may very well be a defective transistor, "leaking" some amount of current even when it's supposed to be turned off.

Or it could be something else driving the transistor incorrectly. If you don't want to just replace the tranny and see if it helps, definitely more details about the circuit will be needed for anyone to speculate about possible other problems ;)

A schematic or pictures of the board at least.
Title: Re: Un-stucking a Stuck Switching Transistor
Post by: MikeK on October 17, 2022, 11:57:36 am
Transistors are not mechanical devices.  One that isn't functioning properly gets replaced.
Title: Re: Un-stucking a Stuck Switching Transistor
Post by: 108CAM on October 17, 2022, 11:02:39 pm
Thanks for the replies. Now I need to work out which of the 2 transistors has gone bad so I can replace it but I'm fairly sure I know which one it is as a multimeter test showed continuity across all 3 legs no matter how I had the probes positioned while the other one showed continuity across only 2 legs. (Those 2 legs being where the internal switch stopped when the power was removed) 
Title: Re: Un-stucking a Stuck Switching Transistor
Post by: james_s on October 18, 2022, 12:53:27 am
That's a pretty obvious symptom that the transistor is bad, remove it from the circuit and check it again just to be certain that the fault isn't something else, but I'd expect it's a bad transistor. Why are you not wanting to replace it? TIP42 is cheap and readily available, and it's the part I would expect to fail most often, for example if the output gets shorted due to a bulb blowing or getting broken.