:: what da heck ??? iphone 6 cracks up???

[3roomlab]

didnt expected this but ... i thought the ALU chasis would resist much better ...

[nitro2k01]

Here's the original iPhone 6 video.

[Marco]

didnt expected this but ... i thought the ALU chasis would resist much better ...

I suspect the PCB, battery, LCD and glass add far more strength than the case regardless of material ... I assume the point where it bend was the edge of the battery.

PS. also the note is almost 20% thicker ... guess we have found out what is too thin for a device that size.

[fcb]

It looks like the weak point is the milled out area near the volume buttons.

I think Jony Ive and his team have really made a mess of the iPhone6/6+, i'm not a fan of the camera lens poking out of the back (won't sit flat) and the antenna banding is ugly. Suspect he and his team have been a little too focused on the Watch of late.

[zapta]

Here's the original iPhone 6 video.

Yes, it bends but Will It Blend?

Episode not available yet.

[atferrari]

Here's the original iPhone 6 video.

1m 20 sec to say "I am going to bend an iphone 6".

Less that 30 sec to actually bend it to a point.

The rest to state the obvious and blah blah blah.

Generous environment the Web. 

[Bored@Work]

The rest to state the obvious and blah blah blah.

So, you have discovered the world of Apple then.

[sacherjj]

Apple's business plan is two part.

1 - Put an Apple logo on it.
2 - People will pay for it.

I believe that had a slide for that in the last presentation...   Yeah, here it is:

[Shock]

U been early adopted!

[suicidaleggroll]

I really don't understand this.  There have been reports of nearly every large smartphone ("phablets" apparently they're being called) built in the last 3 years bending or cracking under normal use, but two reports of an iPhone 6 bending, plus one guy monkey-wrenching it on camera, is cause for global alarm?

I just chalk it up to the annual "what flaw can we find in Apple's new device this year" brigade.  99.9999% of users will never have a problem, and in a month it will be old news.  Don't sit on it or stick it sideways in a pair of skinny jeans and it won't be a problem.

[zapta]

When you think about it, Samsung has much more experience than apple in designing smart phone hardware.

[German_EE]

After spending hundreds of dollars on a phone why do people mistreat such an item? I would not dream of putting any electrical device in my back pocket and my 1,2cm thick dumb phone sits in my jacket pocket or on my desk.

Slab phones are fragile, such is life.

[wraper]

After spending hundreds of dollars on a phone why do people mistreat such an item? I would not dream of putting any electrical device in my back pocket and my 1,2cm thick dumb phone sits in my jacket pocket or on my desk.

Slab phones are fragile, such is life.

There is no mistreat. That junk bends sitting in the front pocket of your pants. Iphone 5 is a junk too, dropping in on the corner severely deforms housing. Don't tell me that dropping is a something exceptional as every mobile phone gets dropped once in a while regardless of how careful the owner is. All because of that funky aluminium which cannot return to the original state after taking mechanical shock unlike plastics.

[GreyWoolfe]

Last year when the company gave us iPhone 4s, they included the Otterbox Defender case.  Yes, it does add bulk, but you can play hockey with the phone.  I don't put either my company phone or my personal smartphone in my back pocket.  That is just a silly idea.  I can't see how a flex issue can be avoided when the phones are becoming larger and slimmer.  Use (un)common sense and properly care for your device.  Suicidaleggroll said it correct, keep it out of your skinny jeans pocket.  Just hold it so everyone can see how cool and trendy you are.  Though I guess that it could be a problem if you are already using one hand to hold up your 5 sizes too large baggy pants.

[sacherjj]

I wish more phone makers would make devices that were not thin enough to cut you.  With a wide phone, it is just impossible to hold.  Then I take off the back and add about double the stock battery capacity to make it fully usable for a day of hard use.  I think Motorola is the only one with a large battery stock on the Max branch of devices.  Thickness gives rigidity, if engineered correctly.

[tjb1]

After spending hundreds of dollars on a phone why do people mistreat such an item? I would not dream of putting any electrical device in my back pocket and my 1,2cm thick dumb phone sits in my jacket pocket or on my desk.

Slab phones are fragile, such is life.

There is no mistreat. That junk bends sitting in the front pocket of your pants. Iphone 5 is a junk too, dropping in on the corner severely deforms housing. Don't tell me that dropping is a something exceptional as every mobile phone gets dropped once in a while regardless of how careful the owner is. All because of that funky aluminium which cannot return to the original state after taking mechanical shock unlike plastics.

The "junk" does not bend sitting there.  The guy nearly has an aneurysm trying to bend the iPhone in the video I had seen.  They are bending because the pockets on all these "hip" jeans are about 1" deep and 75% of the phone is hanging out of your pocket.

[VK5RC]

Durability of phones is a real issue, I have three teenage daughters and most of their friends who all smash their iphones like crazy, cracked screens, backs etc are the norm. Unless as consumers we let Apple et al know about the problems they will keep selling the poorly durable stuff to us. If that was a phone not a wall it would have a dent now!

[wraper]

The "junk" does not bend sitting there.  The guy nearly has an aneurysm trying to bend the iPhone in the video I had seen.  They are bending because the pockets on all these "hip" jeans are about 1" deep and 75% of the phone is hanging out of your pocket.

He didn't use a lot of force when phone started to bend. Lot of force was used only to see how far it will bend. Maybe you didn't notice but before the bending he showed that there already were slight bending after a few days of normal usage.

[wraper]

[free_electron]

This is done intentionally . When someone will release a phone with bendable screen (intentionally bendable) apple will claim they had it first. Should one try to patent bendable phones apple can claim not only prior art , but mass production.

Smart move from the iCon's ...

[tjb1]

The "junk" does not bend sitting there.  The guy nearly has an aneurysm trying to bend the iPhone in the video I had seen.  They are bending because the pockets on all these "hip" jeans are about 1" deep and 75% of the phone is hanging out of your pocket.

He didn't use a lot of force when phone started to bend. Lot of force was used only to see how far it will bend. Maybe you didn't notice but before the bending he showed that there already were slight bending after a few days of normal usage.

Of course, you are all knowing...typical apple hate troll.

[firewalker]

This is done intentionally . When someone will release a phone with bendable screen (intentionally bendable) apple will claim they had it first. Should one try to patent bendable phones apple can claim not only prior art , but mass production.

Smart move from the iCon's ...

LG did it! A year ago released LG G flex.

Alexander.

[zapta]

Samsung has curved screen phones. You can call it factory pre-bent.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Google-Nexus-S-introduced-curved-screen-and-all_id15117

[SeanB]

I had a Nokia 8110i that was like that. I liked that phone, too bad it went in an armed robbery.

[wraper]

Of course, you are all knowing...typical apple hate troll.

Repaired a few dozens of i phone/pads. They didn't make me love them for sure. Unfortunately I have an ipad 2 myself  . Was given at my job a while ago when they were still fancy, of course jailbroken. What do not make me like i devices except hardware?  I don't really understand who actually owns purchased device - apple or actual user. Likely apple owns users  . Not big Android fan too. And not a fan of modern disposable techology, you are like a hobo if your phone is more than a one year old  (or what they want you to think).

[Rick Law]

Of course, you are all knowing...typical apple hate troll.

Repaired a few dozens of i phone/pads. They didn't make me love them for sure. Unfortunately I have an ipad 2 myself  . Was given at my job a while ago when they were still fancy, of course jailbroken. What do not make me like i devices except hardware?  I don't really understand who actually owns purchased device - apple or actual user. Likely apple owns users  . Not big Android fan too. And not a fan of modern disposable techology, you are like a hobo if your phone is more than a one year old  (or what they want you to think).

re: I don't really understand who actually owns purchased device

Until someone with better stats come along, this is what I recall for the USA numbers...

From what I read about 2 years ago, largest segment of iPhone & iPad users were 4-11 year old kids.  I saw that in action when I was in one of my daughter's school events.  Every parent with younger ones there had the kids poking away at the iPad or something-Pad as pacifier.

Most recent stats (last two months) I read is Hispanic Americans are adopting smartphone fastest.  They are about 60% adoption rate vs 58% of non-Hispanics.  Since they are only about 20% of the population, that doesn't make them the largest segment but the highest growth segment.

I am sure data-companies like AC Nielsen or analysis firms like Gartners has much more details if you are a subscriber.

Rick

[suicidaleggroll]

Yawn
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/news/2014/09/consumer-reports-tests-iphone-6-bendgate/index.htm?userWantsFull=true

[Refrigerator]

Burp

[sacherjj]

From what I read about 2 years ago, largest segment of iPhone & iPad users were 4-11 year old kids.  I saw that in action when I was in one of my daughter's school events.  Every parent with younger ones there had the kids poking away at the iPad or something-Pad as pacifier.

The only way I would believe that is if it at iOS devices.  That includes the iPod touch (WiFi only iPhone).  This is used by tons of folks in that age range, because it requires only purchase and no cell plan.  They get texting and voice chat and all from WiFi so it is almost like having a smart phone. 

[zapta]

What happens to the battery, does it bend as well? This can be dangerous.

[Simon]

show it to a mechanical engineer and they will be like  wtf do you expect........ thin and wide pressed aluminium case with holes punched in what would be the strengthening section. Why do consumers demand the impossible and why are they surprised that a manufacturer is making fragile equipement that they want you to replace in the next 6 months to 1 year. My phone is 3 years old, could do with a new one as it's gotten slow but temporarily mitigated by disabling facebook !

[Simon]

i love the statements all these would be testers are making about how hard or soft they are being as though they are using scientifically measured forces. i mean duh you hit the thing with a hammer what do you expect.  anyone tryi :palm:ng this hard to break a phone should have it taken off them and told to go back to their cave 

[3roomlab]

i love the statements all these would be testers are making about how hard or soft they are being as though they are using scientifically measured forces. i mean duh you hit the thing with a hammer what do you expect.  anyone tryi :palm:ng this hard to break a phone should have it taken off them and told to go back to their cave 

true i agree. but it somehow did translate into product lifespan. i have had used both iphone and android. i use them very ... errm lovingly if thats the term. i have friends who are absolute apple fans and some who are large screen android fans. in a single lifetime of my 1 phone (either apple/android), my friends would have gone through about 3 (all apples sadly and in a span of 1 year) ... we would go to the next beer session, he would have a new phone, and after that, the next session, that phone will be in bandages, and the next few months, he will be planning to get a new apple (the next new design) ... so no hammers, no drop tests, etc. but dont ask me how he or they did it, .... it all broke. the only person i knew who had a android broken up as bad as all the apples i have seen in my real life friends is only 1, and he replaced his cracked screen for under USD100 (he said he know some samsung guy locally so he got it for cheap, i think local repairs run in the region of USD 150++).

not that i hate apple, i use them, but i think apple design is not much of a champion in product useable lifespan now a days. TBH, like what 1 of the youtube video says ... its all about the profit margin :/

[wraper]

[wraper]

i was curious about the battery too, i mean everyday it gets some kind of external pressure flexing around. if there is just a slight chance that an internal short takes place just because of that flexing pressure and this happens? (forward to 3:45), some kind of thermal release happens due to the short, blows out the chemicals inside etc ...

and this guy used some serious test gear

so iphone 5 ... over 1mm of flex, iphone 6 ... over 3mm
but what interests me was galaxy over 4mm, but it flexed back lol. plastic win lol?

I see a serious flaw in this test. Load is applied only in one direction and, likely, this is how it was tested at apple. If, for example, right side is very weak, but left side is not, this test won't reveal anything bad. It just shows best case scenario, if any part along the phone can survive such force, that means all phone will survive, as all force is applied to the strongest part.

[Rick Law]

From what I read about 2 years ago, largest segment of iPhone & iPad users were 4-11 year old kids.  I saw that in action when I was in one of my daughter's school events.  Every parent with younger ones there had the kids poking away at the iPad or something-Pad as pacifier.

The only way I would believe that is if it at iOS devices.  That includes the iPod touch (WiFi only iPhone).  This is used by tons of folks in that age range, because it requires only purchase and no cell plan.  They get texting and voice chat and all from WiFi so it is almost like having a smart phone.

I share your doubt to some extended.  As I said in my post, while I do recall reading it, but I don't remember the source or other details.  I was hoping someone with access to data from various market companies would pipe in.  Who would they survey for the 4-11 year old's?  Moms?

This I did find, from a marketing firm.  Note that this table is a prediction of growth and not actual market data.  I don't know them so I am not sure about their reliability and how did they do their analysis. 0-11 year old is the fastest growth segment from their prediction.



http://marketingland.com/firm-predicts-us-ipad-usage-will-double-this-year-13942

EDIT - adding below:

While I still remember the source, let me add cite this source for the Hispanic being the fastest smart phone growth segment part...

http://www.latinpost.com/articles/7294/20140213/latin-americans-shopping-online-hits-new-heights-2013-u-s.htm

[SeanB]

Funny thing here is Samsung is giving a warranty for the first year of they will replace or repair the phone at no cost, irrespective of the reason. Water damage, broken screen or whatever. You get ONE free repair/replacement. Only on the top of the range, but as these are the largest they are confident they will not lose money on this.

But me I have dropped phones before, and as I normally now use a screen guard, and a case they do not get damaged. Scratched, scuffed and with the case sides worn and lettering missing yes, but broken only after a few years. I have had to go through a few batteries with each phone, as they all die after time. I think I bought the last Nokia 8110 battery in the country when I got it, and the phone was not broken but was still not mine a year later.

[Simon]

not that i hate apple, i use them, but i think apple design is not much of a champion in product useable lifespan now a days. TBH, like what 1 of the youtube video says ... its all about the profit margin :/

Of course, all apple care about is looks and style and pushing their new model out in 6 months. It's the ultimate in a throwaway society and that's enough for me to start hating apple ! At least if they made the damn things to be last long enough to be sold on and resused but no they must all break so that all new ones are bought. My phone was bought second hand 3 years ago, still going and in reasonable condition and I'm not that careful with it.

[miguelvp]

call me weird but I really would love to get the new blackberry passport, but my old blackberry  (3 or 4 years old) is still running just fine so I can't justify the $600 or north of that price tag.

[Refrigerator]

My Xperia Arc is over three years old and it's holding fine ( except for the LiPo battery    ). Runs decent games, takes decent pictures and the screen is really nice ( resolution and colors ). I remember it fall out of my hand onto concrete, flat on the screen, didn't even bouce, had no scratches or cracks what so ever  ( the glass is recessed like 0.3mm below the edges  ).

[george graves]

Here's the original iPhone 6 video.

42 million views?  $600 for a phone and then the youtube paycheck a month later.  I'm jealous.  Wow - I'm in the wrong biz.

[Simon]

Yea it's amazing how much you can cash in on peoples ignorance and stupidity or bare bone idleness.

[amyk]

Yawn
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/news/2014/09/consumer-reports-tests-iphone-6-bendgate/index.htm?userWantsFull=true

iPhone 6 - 70lb / 100lb
iPhone 6 Plus - 90lb / 110lb
iPhone 5 - 130lb / 150lb

That iPhone 5 in the picture looks like it didn't bend at all, and that's with 150lb applied to it, while the iPhone 6 Plus is completely trashed at just 110lb. It's definitely weaker.

[tjb1]

not that i hate apple, i use them, but i think apple design is not much of a champion in product useable lifespan now a days. TBH, like what 1 of the youtube video says ... its all about the profit margin :/

Of course, all apple care about is looks and style and pushing their new model out in 6 months. It's the ultimate in a throwaway society and that's enough for me to start hating apple ! At least if they made the damn things to be last long enough to be sold on and resused but no they must all break so that all new ones are bought. My phone was bought second hand 3 years ago, still going and in reasonable condition and I'm not that careful with it.

Yea it's amazing how much you can cash in on peoples ignorance and stupidity or bare bone idleness.

Yep, ignorance and stupidity.  Apple is on a yearly cycle with nearly everything and a major release of the phones every 2 years.  Next year will likely be a 6S with processor upgrade or similar.

By the way, Samsung is on a yearly release of the Galaxy S and Galaxy Note series both of which are usually full redesigns of the phone rather than spec upgrades.

I had an iPhone 4 for 2 years, only reason it died was because I got water in it.  Not many smartphones at that time would survive water and we are just now seeing water resistance and IP ratings come to phones.  Went to Android because Apple did not have any LTE phones at the time and ended up with a GS3, not a terrible phone but battery life is terrible and the OS sucks and Cyanogenmod is not much better. 

I hope you change rather than continue to be an uneducated Apple troll Simon, can't change the fact that people buy $1000 devices and then sit on them.

[Simon]

The ingnorance and stupidity was aimed at people who actually waste their time watching these videos made by not very well informed people. just because it hit's over a million views generally means people are bored not that it's worth watching.

If your saying that apple are the same as every other phone maker then i hate them all, we don't need this throw away designed culture.