Author Topic: What would be the value of Rx if the current flowing throuth it is 1.5A  (Read 6893 times)

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Offline Ratch

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To the Ineffable All,

Some of you got the right answer and some of you did not.  Nodal and mesh methods are powerful, but it is like shooting a fly with a howitzer gun.  Why get involved with multiple simultaneous equations or matrices when it is unnecessary?  I will use the combination Thevenin/Norton theorem, and you all judge whether is is simpler and easier.

Calculate the voltage across Rx when its value is changed to infinity (35 volts).  Calculate the current present in Rx when its value is change to zero (7/3 amps). The Thevenin resistance is thereby 35/(7/3) = 15 ohms. Therefore, we are looking at a Thevenin circuit of 35 volts in series with 15 ohms.  Now, simply calculate Rx to give a series current of 1.5 amps (35/(15+Rx) = 1.5).  Rx is easily found to be 8.33... .

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Offline rstofer

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The OP talked about using the mesh method and since the problem is clearly homework, using a different procedure might not count.

Simon posted a problem a while back that required complex numbers and seemed rather difficult to do, with or without shortcuts.  But methodically writing the mesh or node equations results in an answer:

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/beginners/mesh-analysis/

On page 6 (at the end), I reduced this problem to 2 equations for nodal analysis and on page 7 there is a mesh analysis with a bunch more equations.

The fact that the components include capacitors and inductors matters not at all.  Even the phase shift in the sources doesn't matter as long as the computer is doing the work.  I would not like to solve this by hand.  Been there, done that - with a sliderule.

That was a fun thread!  It took awhile to get back into the groove since I graduated in '73 and never used the stuff again.


 

Online IanB

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I solved it by writing one equation:

  (20 - 1.5 Rx) / 30 + (50 - 1.5 Rx) / 30 = 1.5

This rapidly gives

  70 - 3 Rx = 45

From which

  Rx = (70 - 45) / 3 = 25/3 = 8.33

For me, that was simple and direct and was the work of a few seconds.

Part of the art of solving problems is to be able to look at them and see which path will lead to the quickest answer with least effort. This comes from practice in solving many problems, but sometimes brute force can be simplest.
 

Offline neko efecktz

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SORRY GUYS.
I miss read the results table
it is 8.333 somthing

I think i was looking at and changing I(V2): instead of I(R2):

       --- Operating Point ---

V(n003):    12.4997    voltage
V(n001):    20    voltage
V(n002):    50    voltage
I(R3):    1.25001    device_current
I(R2):    -1.50002    device_current
I(R1):    -0.250011    device_current
I(V2):    -1.25001    device_current
I(V1):    -0.250011    device_current


My apologies.
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Offline rs20

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it is 8.333 somthing

Correct, where the "somthing" is just more 33333333333333333333...
 

Offline Zero999

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it is 8.333 somthing

Correct, where the "somthing" is just more 33333333333333333333...
81/3
 


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