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tggzzz:

--- Quote from: sparkydog on April 24, 2024, 05:03:23 pm ---(Incidentally, I don't get the last line; "made" and "bade" do rhyme. At least how I've ever heard "bade" pronounced...)

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It can be either, as per "bade, past tense of bid, is traditionally pronounced /bad/, rhyming with bad, but /beɪd/, rhyming with spade, is also heard."
https://www.oxfordreference.com/display/10.1093/acref/9780199661350.001.0001/acref-9780199661350-e-443

The good thing about standard accents/pronounciations is that there are so many to choose from :)

IanB:

--- Quote from: sparkydog on April 24, 2024, 05:03:23 pm ---(Incidentally, I don't get the last line; "made" and "bade" do rhyme. At least how I've ever heard "bade" pronounced...)

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Historically, they didn't rhyme. But this is a case where new generations pronounce a word differently, and eventually they most likely will rhyme.

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/learner-english/bade

Mechatrommer:

--- Quote from: sparkydog on April 23, 2024, 08:51:13 pm ---
--- Quote from: Mechatrommer on April 21, 2024, 04:40:37 am ---ps: imho its possible to spell english in phonetics way just using normal alphabets

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I... respectively disagree, at least if you aren't going to use a whole lot of multi-glyph clusters to represent vowel sounds. English uses approximately 13 unique monophthongs. If by "normal alphabets" you mean ASCII, that gives you six "obvious" glyphs unless you make upper- and lower-case glyphs distinct. Personally, I don't recommend it.

I actually developed my own system for writing English phonetically. For monophthongs, I use 'a', 'ä', 'å', 'e', 'ë', 'i', 'y', 'ÿ', 'o', 'û', 'u' and 'ü'. Diphthongs are 'ai', 'au', 'oi' and 'üi'; dipthongs with 'ÿ' usually omit it, i.e. fear is "fir" not "fiÿr". (But see exception, below.) TBH, 'ÿ' and 'û' could probably be combined without loss of readability.

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extra vowel sounds can be represented with combination of two letters such as "ae", "ao", "ua" etc. i'm sure expert linguists can find a way for it, i'm not really a linguist guy myself, i just want to think whats more practical, technical or engineering thinking may affect my opinion. adding extra letters or characters such as "a" with hat or dash or double dots and those IPA thing will complicate existing 26 normal letters. keyboard layout need to be changed/added to and it can be difficult for fast handwriting or keyboard typing skill we currently have. imho ymmv.


--- Quote from: sparkydog on April 24, 2024, 05:03:23 pm ---    Dɪɹɪst kɹiːt͡ʃɚ ɪn kɹiːˈʲeɪʃɘn
    Stʌdjɪŋ ɪŋɡlɪʃ pɹənʌnsiˈeɪʃən,

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looks like a FU phonetics system i cant read, i only familiar with standards back around 90's used in my dictionary, not sure what standards but it seems they are so many variants.

and then there's "ny", nya is not "nee-ya"...

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