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Online dusanTopic starter

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What does transformer do on this condenser mic preamp?
« on: July 05, 2023, 01:46:06 pm »
In this schematic there is output transformer:

http://www.sdiy.org/oid/mics/Neumann_Handheld.GIF

What does it do? Can it be omitted?
 

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Re: What does transformer do on this condenser mic preamp?
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2023, 02:17:46 pm »
That is essential.  It steps the tube era 48 V phantom power voltage down to what the transistors and op amp require.

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Re: What does transformer do on this condenser mic preamp?
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2023, 02:45:01 pm »
But why is secondary on the output of the opamp?
 

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Re: What does transformer do on this condenser mic preamp?
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2023, 02:46:44 pm »
Because the transformer does nothing of the sort - as it cannot pass DC.


The op-amp and associated circuitry directly pick the phantom (common mode) voltage through the two 6.8 kΩ resistor and the 0 V connection.
The transformer is rather used to isolate the output of the op-amp from the phantom voltage, letting only the amplified mic signal pass through and not the DC offset at its output.

EtA: Why a transformer, one may ask, instead of a simple capacitor? To provide both polarities of the differential signal.

The top transistor provides a soft start supply to the op-amp and slightly reduces the voltage (probably the op-amp is a 741, capable of working at ±22 V - be careful if you re-implement this with more modern op-amps), and the bottom one polarizes the + input to about half of the supply, still soft starting.
« Last Edit: July 05, 2023, 03:03:35 pm by newbrain »
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Re: What does transformer do on this condenser mic preamp?
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2023, 03:13:14 pm »
The transformer converts the single-ended output of the op-amp to balanced (differential).

The op-amp is probably NOT a 741.  The input bias current for the inverting input comes through a 470 MOhm resistor. For a 741 that current can be as high as 800 nA.  470E6 times 800E-9 is 376 Volts.
« Last Edit: July 05, 2023, 03:21:36 pm by wasedadoc »
 
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Re: What does transformer do on this condenser mic preamp?
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2023, 05:04:56 pm »
376 Volts.
Oops!
I did not notice the feedback resistor value, thanks for the correction!
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