Worth it to use linux?

[baljemmett]

Once linux has support for a product, it's there forever

If one were being pedantic, one might be tempted to mention Econet at this point as a recent counterexample

[poptones]

Fair enough. Things do get obsoleted - but if you need it, the source is still there.

[Simon]

damn I think my dodgy windows7 has been caught up with again  I refuse to use that shit known as vista despite having paid for it !!!

Caught up with by who and how?

Keep getting a pop up message saying I may not have a genuine windows, yea you bet

[Monkeh]

damn I think my dodgy windows7 has been caught up with again  I refuse to use that shit known as vista despite having paid for it !!!

Caught up with by who and how?

Keep getting a pop up message saying I may not have a genuine windows, yea you bet

Two possibilities.
1: You did it wrong.
2: You have a virus.

[Simon]

Worked fine for a while then it started.

[Monkeh]

Worked fine for a while then it started.

See above.

[T4P]

If the asshole thing is coming up again just use RemoveWAT

[ToBeFrank]

That is why the Linux standard base (LSB) exists. A binary blob should depend only on the LSB. Any other dependency is due to poorly designed software.

Well of course, software couldn't possibly (directly or indirectly) depend on anything not covered by the LSB.

[Simon]

Worked fine for a while then it started.

See above.

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[Simon]

If the asshole thing is coming up again just use RemoveWAT

I did but........

[Monkeh]

Worked fine for a while then it started.

See above.

?

You either did it wrong, or you have a virus.

Either way, I'm not going to help you with it on a public forum.

[Simon]

I still have my vista as a backup. Might even toy with linux again

I just wish reactos would make faster progress.

[Monkeh]

Might even toy with linux again

Pick a non-babysitting distro.

[Simon]

I'll pick anyone that actually works and gets support without a forum full of snotty people that think every joe blogs should be able to program. If the flipping OS worked right I might actually have time left to learn to program instead of trying to sort problems out.

As Ubuntu managed to permanently disable my laptops wifi I await any number of surprises.

[Simon]

I'm thinking debian as most stuff is derived from it, might as well cut the bull, and definitly avoid stuff that is a derivate of a derivate of debian, anything ubuntu based can get stuffed, I want an OS not another re-incarnation of vista !

[madires]

I'm thinking debian as most stuff is derived from it, might as well cut the bull, and definitly avoid stuff that is a derivate of a derivate of debian, anything ubuntu based can get stuffed, I want an OS not another re-incarnation of vista !

Debian is more suitable for servers, and if used for desktops it requires a savvy Linux user. The goal of Debian is to provide a stable system, so you won't have the latest versions of applications in the depository. And it has the BEST upgrade reliability of all distros. My main Linux systems are actually 15 years old! Yes, 15 years! No new installs! Just upgrades to the latest stable Debian release! Only the hardware has changed from time to time.

[Simon]

there is no mention of this on their website. I am looking for reliability over latest untested versions of software, for that we have windows. I'm not going to pay to be a beta tester of microsofts latest rubbish. most desktop distos are based off debian, or based of a distro based off debian, at which point the os is buggier than windows

[ampdoctor]

Linux is absolutely worth it, given the assumption that your time has no value.

[elliott]

Linux is absolutely worth it, given the assumption that your time has no value.

That has been said for years and it is as silly now as it was in the beginning.

[Monkeh]

Linux is absolutely worth it, given the assumption that your time has no value.

That has been said for years and it is as silly now as it was in the beginning.

Quite. Actually, I grow very tired of people simply placing a monetary value on everything. Life isn't about money..

[elliott]

Linux is absolutely worth it, given the assumption that your time has no value.

That has been said for years and it is as silly now as it was in the beginning.

Quite. Actually, I grow very tired of people simply placing a monetary value on everything. Life isn't about money..

It is not even that, since I spend very, very little time maintaining my systems. Maybe an hour a week, if that, this is with bleeding edge Arch installs too. I find installing things in Windows to be needlessly time consuming, since I just sit and click next a dozen times and try to remember to uncheck the crapware they try to bundle with it. Which is quicker and takes less user intervention, installing MS Office on 7 or me typing 'sudo pacman -S libreoffice'? Last time I installed MS Office for someone took well over an hour, then it wanted to update, I can install LibeOffice on my Arch system in 15 minutes, which includes downloading the latest version.

Get past the initial learning and actually using Linux is quite easy and it is simple to maintain.

[Ed.Kloonk]

.../snip
Get past the initial learning and actually using Linux is quite easy and it is simple to maintain.

Quote of the century.

[elliott]

.../snip
Get past the initial learning and actually using Linux is quite easy and it is simple to maintain.

Quote of the century.

I think a lot of people forget that they weren't born knowing how to use Windows, they've been carefully conditioned over the past couple decades into thinking the Windows way is THE way to do things. Put the same effort into learning Linux and you'll realize how easy it can be, especially now. I started in the days of RedHat 9 and RPM dependency hell, spent years with Slackware compiling everything myself, I feel downright lazy using a modern package manager sometimes because it is so easy and painless.

[Simon]

Well installed debian on my laptop. Nice system and to be honest I'm trying to figure out what the various distros based on it offer that it does not, they are so similar that it's pathetic that we have so many distros, sounds like lots of people want to play god instead of just being sociable.

Ony thing is I can't log in and there don't seem to be any forums I can ask on. I setup with just a root account and I was never told the root username and so can't get in and no root does not work. The mailing lists are a mystery to me, will have to do  some reading around.

[Monkeh]

root is the root user. Last I checked, Debian does not rename it.