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X-Tronic XTS-8080 -- Is it safe?
rawrs:
I can't speak for hot air rework, I don't have one. But I highly recommend a TS-100 for the soldering iron, and I have a DPS5020 on the way, they make a range of power supplies that run off power bricks, basically. The higher the input voltage, the higher the output voltage you can have.
Here is that Ruideng store.
Get whichever power supply you think you'll need, and grab the case for it too. It comes with everything you need to put it together, and it'll be a fun little hour or two project putting it all together to boot.
You can find the TS100 on AliExpress too, or eBay. Get the BS2 or other chisel tip with it. And also throw Ralim's firmware on it, it opens up a whole new experience.
Magnifying lamp, you can get anywhere.
Again, I can't speak for hot air, I don't have one - but I would appreciate advice on a budget hot air rework station, myself. The Atten hot air station seems to be fairly popular, but I'd like to hear what Dave has to say on this.
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I'm guessing you were referring to the Atten-style ones? Would you still recommend one despite this?
The way I think of it, I don't like unsafe electronics - at all. I will not touch a cheap power supply, power brick, etc, ever, I don't care how much the genuine article costs. But for something like a hot air rework station or a soldering iron, is safety really going to matter all that much? Neither of these things are pieces of equipment that should ever be left alone for absolutely any amount of time whatsoever, anyway. So if something goes bang, you'll know about it. Not like when I had a power brick short circuit and runaway, almost burning my house down. (If I didn't forget my wallet that night, it would have.)
TL;DR - don't buy these combo stations. Muilti-purpose anything is generally a case of "it's ok at those things, but not great at anything". Pretty much 100% of the time, you are far better off with individual components, no matter what it is - soldering/rework stations, power supplies, power tools, whatever. Buy the proper thing and it'll do the job better, I guarantee it.
SpinDoctor:
Yeah, i get it. I didn't buy the thing to be the ultimate hakko killer, i bought it to save some space and stay on budget while i continue my classes
It does kinda look like that thing in your video though a bit different. The guy seemed to like it though, and commented in part 2 that it still works
Xtronic is a american company, and most people keep saying the chinese stuff is bad, but the seem to love that quick hot air gun, so what am i missing here
bc888:
I wish I had a brother like that. Mine would stand back, watch and then snicker when it zapped me. One time I walked through a ground hornet nest my brothers knew of. The wasps followed me for @1/2 a city block, stinging all the way.
Bastards. The wasps were nasty too. :-DD Anyway, I'm new too and learning and watching, I appreciate the discussion here, and now have one more thing to worry about, not burning the house down with the even cheaper unit I bought off Banggood. I want to add that the reviews on Amazon for this unit are very very good in aggregate. 4.3 out of 5 stars vs Weller WES51 4.4 out of 5 (many more reviews though). Good luck to you both.
wraper:
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American sales company. They only resell already existing Chinese crap at much higher price. They don't design anything. And their address is a small warehouse.
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Chinese stuff is very different. Chinese make/design a lot of crap and a lot of excellent things. X-tronic sells goods which lean more on the crappy side. Also IMHO they imitate XYtronic-USA company name (which makes good soldering equipment) to confuse people. http://www.xytronic-usa.com
james_s:
It's probably not unsafe, at least as these things go. Any soldering or desoldering tool can start a fire if you aren't careful so never leave it running unattended. It's a bizarre combination of things though, combining all that stuff together is a bit like a combination toothbrush/toilet brush/hand towel/shaver, they're all things that are often used in the same general space but it hardly makes sense to bolt them together.
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