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Abloy Protec2 - Challenge to The Lockpicking Lawyer
« on: September 21, 2021, 04:48:22 am »
Dave challenges The Lockpicking Lawyer to pick the lock on his new storage unit, an 11 disc Abloy Protec 2. But this video is basically just Dave changing the original Lockwood 3572 lock.

 

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Re: Abloy Protec2 - Challenge to The Lockpicking Lawyer
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2021, 06:43:36 am »
"This tool Bosnian Bill and I designed"
 

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Re: Abloy Protec2 - Challenge to The Lockpicking Lawyer
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2021, 07:33:10 am »
He will pick it, he's very determined, and if needed he will make a new tool.
 
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Re: Abloy Protec2 - Challenge to The Lockpicking Lawyer
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2021, 08:43:02 pm »
I feel like you are misinterpreting the tone a bit, its just a video demoing a good lock, and one point of how hard it is to pick is that LPL has yet to pick it. a fun challenge.
If anyone wanted to get into that room they could simply drill out the lock, which dave acknowledges.

edit: the post I replied to was deleted.
« Last Edit: September 22, 2021, 11:28:57 pm by thm_w »
 

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Re: Abloy Protec2 - Challenge to The Lockpicking Lawyer
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2021, 11:07:18 pm »
The purpose of most locks is not to protect from entrance, but to make an unauthorized entry evident, to bringing unwanted attention or require committing a more severe crime than breaking in.

You might just kick those door out, but that will likely alarm someone and certainly Dave will notice the door is missing. Dave could be forced to open the door, but that brings severe criminal charges against the intruder. Even merely damaging the door counts as property destruction, which in many jurisdictions(1) is already a more serious crime than merely stealing some stuff. Maybe you have noticed: the door is self-locking and always require a key to be opened from outside, which is a protection on itself in physical, psychological and legal sense.

If this lock is popular enough, it will be picked. If someone advertises to you a lock as “unbreakable”, you may be sure it’s bullshit. Not due to some theoretical impossibility, but because the existing experience, which should be known to anyone interested in the subject — so they are overoptimistic ignorants or liars. Yale, the creator of the common tumbler lock, realized that a long time ago and departed from the pursuit of unpickable solution. And this Abloy is not meant to be unpickable either: it is only meant to offer certain level of security. Much higher than your average lock of 2021.
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Re: Abloy Protec2 - Challenge to The Lockpicking Lawyer
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2021, 01:20:17 pm »
Pass me the angle grinder!


"This tool Bosnian Bill and I designed"

These days it's more "Using this tool that I sell over on covertinstruments.com"
 

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Re: Abloy Protec2 - Challenge to The Lockpicking Lawyer
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2021, 01:23:23 pm »
He will pick it, he's very determined, and if needed he will make a new tool.

This was his reply:


 

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Re: Abloy Protec2 - Challenge to The Lockpicking Lawyer
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2021, 03:37:19 am »
He will pick it, he's very determined, and if needed he will make a new tool.

This was his reply:



That was almost 3 years ago now  ;D
 

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Re: Abloy Protec2 - Challenge to The Lockpicking Lawyer
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2021, 12:23:22 pm »
Sadly forget lock picking, give me a circular saw.  :box:
 

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Re: Abloy Protec2 - Challenge to The Lockpicking Lawyer
« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2021, 08:22:31 am »
LPL has really gone downhill.

Take his latest video:



You can see it's a crap lock just by looking at the key - the profile is basically flat and the bitting (depth variation between adjacent cuts along the key) is terrible. A lock like that just begs to be raked open.

The sad part is that Bosnian Bill would have explained all that to us before raking it and helped people identify bad locks in stores. LPL just sees it as another easy way to advertise his expensive lock pick tool instead of taking that extra ten seconds to talk about the key.

So, long Bill. You were the best.

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Re: Abloy Protec2 - Challenge to The Lockpicking Lawyer
« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2021, 09:35:41 pm »
Its a 2 minute video, that's his thing.
 

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Re: Abloy Protec2 - Challenge to The Lockpicking Lawyer
« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2021, 09:57:32 am »
LPL has really gone downhill.

Take his latest video:

You can see it's a crap lock just by looking at the key - the profile is basically flat and the bitting (depth variation between adjacent cuts along the key) is terrible. A lock like that just begs to be raked open.

The sad part is that Bosnian Bill would have explained all that to us before raking it and helped people identify bad locks in stores. LPL just sees it as another easy way to advertise his expensive lock pick tool instead of taking that extra ten seconds to talk about the key.

I don't watch every video of his, but that's basically the same as every video I've ever seen of his.
But I get where you are coming from, it's worth mentioning why he chose a raking tool.
If you don't like a way a channel is going, leave a comment right after it gets released, and if enough people agree and thumbs it up, he'll notice.
But don't say "your channel is going downhill" etc, just say something like "It would be nice if you could tell us in every video why you are chosing the tool you. Thanks" or something like this.
 

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Re: Abloy Protec2 - Challenge to The Lockpicking Lawyer
« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2021, 10:29:45 am »
I don't watch every video of his, but that's basically the same as every video I've ever seen of his.

He's never been very chatty but it sure feels like he used to do more stuff and the videos didn't used to feel like adverts for his web store.

But I get where you are coming from, it's worth mentioning why he chose a raking tool.
If you don't like a way a channel is going, leave a comment right after it gets released, and if enough people agree and thumbs it up, he'll notice.

The problem is getting in near the top. He always gets thousands of comments.
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Re: Abloy Protec2 - Challenge to The Lockpicking Lawyer
« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2021, 07:51:21 am »
The problem is getting in near the top. He always gets thousands of comments.

Yes, you have to get in and comment within 10's of minutes, maybe the first few hours of the video being released.
 


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