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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1300 on: June 27, 2013, 10:37:57 pm »
Good day to you all!

First off: thank you Gizmo and others for this 3+year thread!
Went through it and got dizzy after a while  :phew:

For version 00.00.04.00.01:
1) is the serial hack still working (like shown in Dave's video)? Links?
2) where does the USB hack start in this thread for my version?

Thanks again guys and keep on hacking   :)
Sam

Sam,

The serial hack might still work, but you have to downgrade to a very old firmware, run the hack, then upgrade again. Read: not worth it.

Instead, go here: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/blog/changing-the-rigol-ds1052e-to-ds1102e-using-usb-the-dummy-guide/1200/ (which answers your second question). Works great. Make sure to read on from that point, as it explains how to confirm the file is not corrupt, etc.

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1301 on: June 28, 2013, 04:59:36 am »
Thanks  Gizmo& everyone!  I want to  upgrad my scope  ,but my scope verision is latest firmware for V4.01,how do I make it

Anyway, thanks again!
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1302 on: June 28, 2013, 06:42:44 am »
Thanks  Gizmo& everyone!  I want to  upgrad my scope  ,but my scope verision is latest firmware for V4.01,how do I make it

Anyway, thanks again!

Please read my previous post. It points you to Gizmo's firmware, which has instructions. You just "upgrade" to the hacked version, and you're done. I would suggest starting with Gizmo's post (1200), and reading through the next couple pages as he (and others) cover the basic questions.
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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1303 on: June 28, 2013, 09:10:36 am »
Thanks  Gizmo& everyone!  I want to  upgrad my scope  ,but my scope verision is latest firmware for V4.01,how do I make it

Anyway, thanks again!

Please read my previous post. It points you to Gizmo's firmware, which has instructions. You just "upgrade" to the hacked version, and you're done. I would suggest starting with Gizmo's post (1200), and reading through the next couple pages as he (and others) cover the basic questions.

thanks staze, The problem is I can't upgrade to hacked version now, cuz hacked version is all V4.0
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1304 on: June 28, 2013, 10:43:01 am »
Thanks  Gizmo& everyone!  I want to  upgrad my scope  ,but my scope verision is latest firmware for V4.01,how do I make it

Anyway, thanks again!

Staze just answered exactly that! Read the post before your post. I posted your question just one post before that..

I will take a look at it and let you guys know how it went.

Sam
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1305 on: June 29, 2013, 07:13:17 am »
who can give the DS1052E latest firmware V4.01 to me ,
I want to upgrade my scope

best regards
THANKS


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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1306 on: July 01, 2013, 01:11:19 am »
After much hacking, here's a custom firmware which sets the DS1052E to be a DS1102E. You wont notice any difference in serial or model number, but you now have the functionality of the DS1102E scope (2ns minimum time scale / 100Mhz). I've tested it and my 32Mhz clock I was looking at definitely has more resolution, so it is working.

CRC32: E62BB61B
MD5: 01d2d46d6c565c492b6f49725404f18b

http://synfin.net/public/DS1000EUpdate.rar

For anyone who is sceptical, do a file compare between the official 00.04.00.00.01 firmware and this one, and you'll see only one byte has changed.

As ever use at your own risk, blah blah. Works for my hardware 58 version DS1052E scope.


Edit:
May as well add some instructions. Copy the DS1000EUpdate.RGL file from the rar onto a memory stick, put it in the scope, and select OK when it asks if you want to update. It's that simple.

For your peace of mind, check the file's MD5 against the above number when it's on your memory stick to ensure it's correct before flashing. The scope doesn't bother with any data integrity checking, which is a bit of a shame, so if the file is corrupted at all, you will most likely brick the scope.

Awesomeness on a stick! To easy :)
Succesfull "upgrade"

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1307 on: July 01, 2013, 09:41:48 pm »
have a 1052e here i upgraded to  a 1102 some years ago, mine came with FW 00.02.02 SP2 so i was able to apply the serial/usb tweak to turn it into the 1102 quite easily

I think i recall there was some issue over loading newer firmware onto it after the hack so never bothered upgrading to anything newer at the time so it's still on 00.02.02SP2

maybe its time to upgrade? but is it safe and what version / flavor should i be wanting??

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1308 on: July 01, 2013, 09:54:56 pm »
have a 1052e here i upgraded to  a 1102 some years ago, mine came with FW 00.02.02 SP2 so i was able to apply the serial/usb tweak to turn it into the 1102 quite easily

I think i recall there was some issue over loading newer firmware onto it after the hack so never bothered upgrading to anything newer at the time so it's still on 00.02.02SP2

maybe its time to upgrade? but is it safe and what version / flavor should i be wanting??

Hi,
Yes, it's a time to upgrade your device.
You can upgrade to version 4 with original firmware because your device was been hacked before.
The modified firmware is only for users that do not change the Model / Serial Number.
Please, say your hardversion.

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1309 on: July 01, 2013, 10:34:40 pm »
hardware is 06

in related news, i just broke it's power switch |O :--

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1310 on: July 01, 2013, 10:56:13 pm »
hardware is 06

in related news, i just broke it's power switch |O :--

Just upgrade to version 4
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1311 on: July 02, 2013, 11:06:15 am »
I have to ask....why is it necessary to upgrade to version 4....does anyone actually know what changes were made that actually improve the unit after 2.04 ? I ask because Rigol indicated that anything after 2.04 contained only minor 'housekeeping' changes. these were in fact attempts to stop upgrading plus USB memory stick expanded support.

After FW 2.04 I read of firmware revisions with all manner of strange issues, like screen flicker and trigger errors. Later hardware also appeared to need newer firmware revisions (understandable). Are people blindly upgrading firmware just because its a newer version rather than a documented improvement ?

I would be interested to hear from those 'in the know'  ;)
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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1312 on: July 04, 2013, 10:29:30 am »
After FW 2.04 I read of firmware revisions with all manner of strange issues, like screen flicker and trigger errors. Later hardware also appeared to need newer firmware revisions (understandable). Are people blindly upgrading firmware just because its a newer version rather than a documented improvement ?

I would be interested to hear from those 'in the know'  ;)

Does anybody know, or has everybody been indoctrinated by Microsoft "must upgrade" policy ?
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1313 on: July 08, 2013, 09:00:14 pm »
Hi everybody,

I just bought my new DS1052E and I want to "upgrade" it to 100MHz (or 150MHz if possible). I tried to use Gizmo's hacked firmware but without success. My scope doesn't recognize the firmware on USB stick at all. I can just see "USB device install success" and that's all. I used two USB sticks, double checked the MD5 sum but the result is stil the same. The spec of my scope (all I can see when press Utility->System Info) is:

Serial No. DS1ET1512xxxxx
Software version: 00.04.01
Installed module: FFT
                             USB
                              P/F
                             RS232

What can I to do? What's wrong?

Thanks for answers.

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1314 on: July 08, 2013, 09:08:11 pm »
Hi everybody,

I just bought my new DS1052E and I want to "upgrade" it to 100MHz (or 150MHz if possible). I tried to use Gizmo's hacked firmware but without success. My scope doesn't recognize the firmware on USB stick at all. I can just see "USB device install success" and that's all. I used two USB sticks, double checked the MD5 sum but the result is stil the same. The spec of my scope (all I can see when press Utility->System Info) is:

Serial No. DS1ET1512xxxxx
Software version: 00.04.01
Installed module: FFT
                             USB
                              P/F
                             RS232

What can I to do? What's wrong?

Thanks for answers.

Petr

Hi, have you put the .rgl firmware in the root of your pen drive?
Have you formatted your memory to fat32?


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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1315 on: July 08, 2013, 10:01:21 pm »
Hmm, ok i emailed rigol support and they told me no newer firmware is available for my ds1052

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Sorry your version can't be updated any more ,is there any problem with
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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1316 on: July 08, 2013, 10:37:48 pm »
Hmm, ok i emailed rigol support and they told me no newer firmware is available for my ds1052

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Sorry your version can't be updated any more ,is there any problem with
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Maybe your HardVersion is too old
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1317 on: July 09, 2013, 06:07:40 am »

Hi, have you put the .rgl firmware in the root of your pen drive?
Have you formatted your memory to fat32?


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Hi, thanks for answer.
Yes, I have USB stick formated to FAT32 and the RGL file is just in the root of the device. And there is nothing else except the firmware file. I can normally browse the filesystem by my scope and I can see the file but when I plug in the device, nothing happens. I can only see icon at the top of the screen.   :'(
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1318 on: July 09, 2013, 07:10:21 am »
Hmm, ok i emailed rigol support and they told me no newer firmware is available for my ds1052

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Sorry your version can't be updated any more ,is there any problem with
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Maybe your HardVersion is too old

Maybe a good thing i didn't follow your advice before when you told me to upgrade?

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1319 on: July 09, 2013, 11:11:07 am »


Maybe a good thing i didn't follow your advice before when you told me to upgrade?
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The rigol support told you that there aren't upgrade for your device but not that the firmware 4 doesn't work.
I also spoke with some of the staff who did not even know of the existence of updates.
Anyway stay with your version if you do not have problems because the update is always a risk.
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1320 on: July 09, 2013, 05:54:41 pm »
Hi again,

I've just performed couple of tests with my scope and it seems like my Rigol simply ignores all RGL files. I tried plug in the stick with the old patched firmware (I know it isn't working and could be dangerous, but I was just curious if some upgrade menu appears...) and the behaviour was the same: nothing. Tried even next USB stick with the same result. I'm disapointed a lot...

Does have someone any ideas or suggestions?

Thanks in advance.
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1321 on: July 09, 2013, 06:05:36 pm »
Hi again,

I've just performed couple of tests with my scope and it seems like my Rigol simply ignores all RGL files. I tried plug in the stick with the old patched firmware (I know it isn't working and could be dangerous, but I was just curious if some upgrade menu appears...) and the behaviour was the same: nothing. Tried even next USB stick with the same result. I'm disapointed a lot...

Does have someone any ideas or suggestions?

Thanks in advance.

Hi, Try to save/read some waveform to your pen drive and post some picture!
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1322 on: July 09, 2013, 07:16:14 pm »

Hi, Try to save/read some waveform to your pen drive and post some picture!

Just saved squarewave from built-in generator. No problem.  :-//
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1323 on: July 14, 2013, 05:57:21 pm »
Is the gizmo firmware supposed to give 100MHz bandwidth as well and the extra timescale?  When I flashed my scope with the gizmo firmware I did get the 2ns setting but there was no change in signal amplitude on a 100MHz sine input, bandwidth is still about 65MHz
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1324 on: July 14, 2013, 07:19:33 pm »
Is the gizmo firmware supposed to give 100MHz bandwidth as well and the extra timescale?  When I flashed my scope with the gizmo firmware I did get the 2ns setting but there was no change in signal amplitude on a 100MHz sine input, bandwidth is still about 65MHz

Hi, can you post some pictures?
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