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Offline rifkum

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1875 on: March 01, 2024, 11:19:26 pm »
@SanFable
I would say the answer to your question is NO that is NOT the correct Hex byte to replace.
(But I am not an expert)

I have been experimenting with the latest 04.04 firmware as downloaded from Rigol
I opened the file in notepad++ and used the HEX plugin to view the hex file
I searched for "e50100a86108080510096089e67d0050"
which is found at 00019710
and replaced "e50100a86108080510096089e67d0050"
with "01" and did a SaveAs to a compatable USB memory stick
Then I inserted into the 1052E and it asked if I wanted to replace the same firmware with new?
I said OK and it did complete the update
After restarting it now
And I now have a new sweep time of 2ns VS the old 5ns
I then did a SELF CAL

And now the scope SEEMS to be working correctly as a 100 MHz scope
It still shows 1052E in the system info screen

I am measuring a 3.9ns rise time with my 74AC14 fast edge pulse generator

Hope this helps you
cheers
Dwight

I have attached the MODDED 04.04 file I used for MY scope.  (use at your own risk)

« Last Edit: March 02, 2024, 12:24:35 am by rifkum »
 

Offline AlienRelics

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1876 on: March 09, 2024, 10:44:35 pm »
Very frustrating. I thought Rigol had kind of given tacit approval to this? I stupidly upgraded a 2.02 scope to 4.04, intending on using the Riglol gen.

Now it seems to be locked into being a 50MHz bare bones. I tried the 4.04 found here, and it never asks if I want to replace the firmware.

Did I just jam myself up?
Steven J Greenfield AE7HD
 

Offline GGMM

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1877 on: March 10, 2024, 09:37:17 am »
Hé Alienrelics,

There are not many people on this subject anymore. It’s probably a bit old....
I never have answers to the questions I ask.
See my questions just above.

In your case, I think it is necessary to redo via Jtag an old firmware.
And then we end up with lots of questions and necessarily where to find a correct flash...

cdt
 

Offline hlj.pycad

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1878 on: April 17, 2024, 07:11:19 am »
Here is the 04.04 downgrade firmware in case anyone needs it.

I've mistaken upgraded to 04.04 and the scope reverted itself to DS1052E. because I want to sell it, I'd better have it display itself DS1102E instead of explaining to every potential buyer it's a 100Mhz though it says it's not. After I read  A Hellene 's reply, I realize it is really simply to make you own downgrade firmware as long as rigol don't change the upgrade checking logic in 04.04, which it's no quite possible. Long story short, I copy the 0x00-0x13 hex code to the existing downgrade firmware, copy it to a usb stck then plug it in, the scope prompt confirmation about update. Done.

@AlienRelics
« Last Edit: April 17, 2024, 07:13:12 am by hlj.pycad »
I am from China, so of course I speak chinglish
 
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Offline Geektronix

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1879 on: September 25, 2024, 01:44:05 am »
Wow.  Lot of stuff to take in here.   :o

I picked up an inexpensive unmodded DS1052E

   Software version 00.03.01.00.00
   Hardware version 58.

I have the extended info screen but it's not clear to me which number is the firmware version.  Is it the '3.01' above or the  'FPGA:03.07'

The Rigol site shows latest firmware for DS1000E as: 00.04.04.00.00.

If I install the latest 4.04 firmware, can the scope still be modded to 100Mhz, or will it have to be reverted to 2.02 first?

Is there a way to mod the 3.01 firmware without reverting to 2.02 (it's not obvious from looking through this rather long thread)?

If the 3.01 firmware can be modded, does it then make sense to update to the 4.04 firmware after the mod or will that remove the mod?
« Last Edit: September 25, 2024, 02:16:30 am by Geektronix »
 

Offline Geektronix

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1880 on: September 26, 2024, 06:37:34 am »
@SanFable
I would say the answer to your question is NO that is NOT the correct Hex byte to replace.
(But I am not an expert)

I have been experimenting with the latest 04.04 firmware as downloaded from Rigol
I opened the file in notepad++ and used the HEX plugin to view the hex file
I searched for "e50100a86108080510096089e67d0050"
which is found at 00019710
and replaced "e50100a86108080510096089e67d0050"
with "01" and did a SaveAs to a compatable USB memory stick
Then I inserted into the 1052E and it asked if I wanted to replace the same firmware with new?
I said OK and it did complete the update
After restarting it now
And I now have a new sweep time of 2ns VS the old 5ns
I then did a SELF CAL

And now the scope SEEMS to be working correctly as a 100 MHz scope
It still shows 1052E in the system info screen

I am measuring a 3.9ns rise time with my 74AC14 fast edge pulse generator

Hope this helps you
cheers
Dwight

I have attached the MODDED 04.04 file I used for MY scope.  (use at your own risk)

Thanks for posting this.  Couple of questions:

Did you upgrade from an older Firmware to the newer 4.04 firmware before then updating again but with the modded 4.04 firmware?

Did you have to downgrade the firmware first, or just update with the new (edited) 00.04.04.00  file?

I'm on 3.01 and wonder if I can upgrade to the modded 4.04 directly or do the normal 4.04 upgrade first, then update with the modded version.
« Last Edit: September 26, 2024, 06:48:38 am by Geektronix »
 

Offline weeklybuilds

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1881 on: February 17, 2025, 05:11:09 am »
can ds1052d  update to 1102d or 1152d?  please send me the files. thanks!   weeklybuilds@gmail.com
 


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