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Offline pablo4093

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1800 on: February 09, 2017, 09:33:00 pm »
HELLO ALL! I HAVE A KEYSIGHT DSO1052 BRAND NEW ( AND YES.. I FEEL SO  :palm: ) BECAUSE IS A REBADGED RIGOL!!.. BUT DOESN'T EXIST A PATCH TO HIS FIRMWARE TO CONVERT THEM A 100MHz BANDWITH.. ANYONE KNOWS SOMETHING? A HARDWARE HACK MAYBE?

AND SORRY FOR MY BAD ENGLISH, IM A ARGENTINIAN ITS NO MY NATIVE LANGUAGE..

THANKS!!
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1801 on: February 10, 2017, 12:32:58 am »
Caps Lock = SHOUTING

Not so loud please - or you'll wake up the trolls.
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1802 on: March 25, 2017, 05:15:16 pm »
Hi?
Hello everyone, DS1062E can use this  http://jahansen.com/rigol/DS1000EUpdate.00.04.01.00.02.zip???

NO OR  YES??
« Last Edit: March 25, 2017, 05:19:31 pm by xingyusky111 »
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1803 on: April 22, 2017, 09:06:22 pm »
Hello, sorry to wake an old thread.
Have a DS1052e which I want to upgrade, but my scope has hardversion 59.
Anyone tried upgrading one of those with the 100Mhz "usb"  FW listed a couple of pages back?
Current FW 00.04.02.01.00
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1804 on: May 31, 2017, 04:27:05 pm »
Anyone has the hack? My information is:

Sofware Version: 00.04.02.01.00
DSP: 00.00
FPGA=03.07
HardVersion=58
« Last Edit: May 31, 2017, 04:45:05 pm by viktor18 »
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1805 on: June 16, 2017, 06:24:58 am »
Hello.

I'm absolutely new to this forum.
First of all: Thenk you very much for everyone that made this possible.

My situation is: I have an DS1052D that came with firmware 00.04.02.01.00.
After several attempts to downgrade to firmware 00.02.02.02.00 finally got it: looks like new firmware has some kind of encryption applied on the first 10 bytes of the header, and any attempt to change version number on bytes 0x0a to 0x0d leads to a file that is not recognized by the oscilloscope as an update file (even correcting the CRC32 value at bytes 0x10 to 0x13.

Anyway, I took the first 21 bytes of the latest firmware and append the firmware payload version 00.02.02.02.00. Then it recognizes it and says it's the same version applied, but give option to actually flash it, making it a downgrade.

But I'm stuck at this point, because the tutorial says I should change the model and the serial number, adapting the serial number from DS1ECxxxxxx (1052D model) to DS1EAxxxxxx (1102D model). But mine is DS1EU175000xxx.
So does anyone knows which should be the proper serial I should use: DS1EA175000xxx? DS1ET175000xxx may be? (Just guessing).

Thank you very much in advance.
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1806 on: November 17, 2017, 02:45:39 pm »
Just to confirm - and thanks - I upgraded a 1052 2.05 to 4.02 100MHz, and everything looks ok!  :)
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1807 on: November 29, 2017, 07:22:40 am »
Good job!Thx!
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1808 on: December 04, 2017, 06:40:08 am »
Hi Guys, new user here, and also a new Rigol DS1052E owner.

I've read a lot of the posts here, and re-read the past 4 pages to get a better understanding of how to do the upgrade to 100Mhz, however, I'm totally lost.

My Scope data is:

Software Version: 00.04.02.00.00
DSP: 00.02
FPGA: 03.07
HardwareVersion 58

I've tried downgrading to 2.02.02.00 via the Hex editing method and the scope doesn't see the USB stick, however, it sees the stick installed and the .RGL file via the Storage manager. I've tried two different sticks, both of them are FAT32, Windows 8 isn't letting me do a FAT16 format.

So I guess what I'm asking for is what files do I need, and could someone send them to me?

dgdimick <at> gmail <dot> com

Thanks,

Denis 
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1809 on: December 07, 2017, 03:09:04 pm »
Hi, i am an new user here, and i am a new Rigol DS1052E owner.
First of all: Thank you very much for everyone that made this possible.
I will to do the upgrade to 100Mhz ;-)

Hi Straycat, or everyone
Would you please send me a copy of firmware? My scope is DS1052E with 00.04.00.00.01. Thanks a lot.
my email is matrix-x(at)gmx(dot)de

My Scope data is:

DS1052E
Software Version: 00.04.00.00.01
DSP: 00.01
FPGA: 03.07
HardwareVersion 58

Thankyou in Advance
Fontanis

Post Update ->

Hi, now i read more then 20Pages an i found http://www.linhadafrente.net/Luis/04.02.01.00.zip -> the link dosent work correctly.  :-\

It's still available here http://jahansen.com/rigol/DS1000EUpdate.00.04.02.01.00.zip
Thanks to this User.

I updatet my DS1052E with this File and now i have a 100Mhz Scope.  :)

Thanks to all Users.
« Last Edit: December 08, 2017, 01:58:38 pm by Fontanis »
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1810 on: December 23, 2017, 10:31:16 am »

I've tried downgrading to 2.02.02.00 via the Hex editing method and the scope doesn't see the USB stick, however, it sees the stick installed and the .RGL file via the Storage manager. I've tried two different sticks, both of them are FAT32, Windows 8 isn't letting me do a FAT16 format.

dgdimick <at> gmail <dot> com

Thanks,

Denis 

I was able to do the update using literally just the update file that's posted elsewhere in this thread. I basically just read through the last 10 or 15 pages and eventually found the right one.

The big issue I had was nothing to do with the file, but with rigol's usb key reading. I had to try probably 15-20 different usb keys before I found one that would update. YOu could see the RGL file, but it wouldn't boot from the stick and update.

The only advice I can really give, is use the oldest one you can find. If I can find the old stick that worked for my scope, I'll be happy to send it to you, as long as you can cover postage from New zealand (not cheap ... :()
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1811 on: February 22, 2018, 10:19:20 pm »
Hopefully this thread is still relevant and read...

After reading years (literally) of history and strategies, I'm stuck deciding what to do because there are conflicting reports/opinions about how to perform the upgrade to a 100MHz scope.

I am currently running a DS1052E HW version 58 with the original firmware version 00.02.05.02.00. That seemed to be where the "change the serial number" method became harder with upgrade/downgrade etc. The simplicity of the "Gizmo USB stick load method" is appealing. I see that it works by changing a single value putting the the scope into 100 (or 50 or 150) MHz mode. I have also read claims that the 2.5.SP2 version that I now have is the most stable... or that older versions of the HW (even if reporting HW58) shouldn't be updated to the latest version of firmware. Or that firmware updates caused issues with trigger delay, screen flashing or other instability. All of the hacked files I could find that use the "Gizmo" method are newer versions (v4+ ??). Is there some reason that the "Gizmo method" can't be used to modify the necessary (value compare) value in the 2.5.SP2 firmware? (For example, if the signature is different to identify the correct byte to modify in this older version compared to later versions?). I've also read that it's not possible to update directly from the 2.5.SP2 firmware to the latest 4.2.1 - but then also see that others claim to have done just that with success.

Questions:
* is the latest firmware (00.04.02.01.00) as stable/solid as my current version (2.5.SP2) - or is there any other reason to avoid updating to it?
* can I move from 2.5.SP2 directly to latest? If not, what is recommended - moving in two steps, first to an intermediate version and then to the latest?
* is there a reason why 2.5.SP2 can't be hacked the same way as v4.x - or why it's not desirable (in case it actually is the most stable version available)?

I'd appreciate any clarification possible for the conflicting concerns I've found in almost 2000 posts and summarized above.

*Update* - updating from v2.5.SP2 directly to v4.2.SP1 does work.
« Last Edit: February 28, 2018, 04:33:53 pm by ags »
 
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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1812 on: March 02, 2018, 03:41:04 am »
I'd like to upgrade my very old ds1052e, but see many problems such as triggering issues and such.

Once in awhile I try to filter through the thread, but hundreds of pages.

I was about to PM this guy because he just woke the thread, but would rather not bother him/her.

Is there a drunken monkey process or wiki? (scope firmware) (firmware i have, keep or regress) etc etc.

Should I keep it as a 50Mhz working fine, or risk a trigger or myriad of other problems?

Not hurting for money, but making it better, I could put funds to a vna or something rather than a new scope.

P.S. Does the 50 to 100 Mhz improve its spectrum analyzer performance?
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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1813 on: July 06, 2018, 03:06:50 pm »
Hi, I do not know if version 00.04.02.01.00 is completely stable, but I can recommend a older version. I have a really old Rigol DS 1052E and for years I have hesitated to risk hacking the original version 00.02.02.01.00 (Hardversion 05 !!!). Finally, I only decided to normal upgrade to 00.04.01.00.02 - WITHOUT changing the code to 100 MHz. Then I did the recommended (but perhaps dangerous) Self Calibration. My little oscillo seems to be defying its manufacturer's warnings about old models and new firmwares and working flawlessly. So I decided to do the real hack. Today I did it and everything looks good.  :-+ I still borrow a signal generator with a range of up to 100MHz, so I will be able to judge the quality of the waveform at 2nS. Great thanks to Gizmo and others who have been involved!
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1814 on: February 26, 2019, 12:52:13 am »
Hi. I've restored the broken link to the hack file for the Rigol DS1052E. (updated to version 00.04.02.01.00)
http://www.linhadafrente.net/Luis/DS1000EUpdate.00.04.02.01.00.zip
Enjoy.
Luis

« Last Edit: March 09, 2019, 11:47:31 am by luisr320 »
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1815 on: March 09, 2019, 05:53:16 am »
I've finally upgraded my 00.04.01.00.02 FW to 100MHz using Gizmo's version. Works a treat.
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1817 on: March 09, 2019, 07:14:27 pm »
Many thanks for posting the link luisr320 and to Gizmo for the hack idea. Worked great on my 2015 DS1052E (H/W version 58). I got the improvement in rise time as expected (graphs attached).  :-+
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1818 on: March 13, 2019, 05:37:35 am »
Hello friends, this is actually my second time upgrading a 1052e to 100mhz. My first one was stolen so I just got another one second hand. This one is bone stock at 50 mhz on firmware 04.01.07. HW58. Will the latest file a couple posts above do the deed?

Thanks!


Update:
I just went for it. Shouldn't have, smoke came out the top. Apparently, some of these units can't clock that high. That's ok I knew it was a chance, that's on me.
Just kidding! Worked flawlessly as expected. Thanks again to everyone who made this possible. 2ns! Yes! This thing screams now, traces seem to have much better resolution as well.
« Last Edit: March 13, 2019, 05:26:42 pm by Ardvaark »
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1819 on: June 20, 2019, 11:38:08 pm »
Hi.  Long time lurker, first time poster.
Thanks to all concerned who have contributed to this hack over the years.

I just hacked a scope I bought second hand a few years ago using this link.
There is a new version here: http://www.linhadafrente.net/Luis/DS1000EUpdate.00.04.02.01.00.zip

HW: 58
FPGA: 03.07
DSP: 00.00
SW: 00.02.05 SP1

SW now at 00.04.02.01.00

Installation was a breeze.  I haven't tested much, but everything appears ok. Confirmed 2.0nS per division on the timebase.
 :-BROKE

« Last Edit: June 20, 2019, 11:39:47 pm by Ashdash »
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1820 on: July 11, 2019, 02:37:59 pm »
Still does the job on Windows 10. Just did the upgrade by USB after some fighting with the visa-driver. I was a bit lucky: Had old 02.02.sp2 firmware.


Don't install or copy any visa-driver into windows 10. Instead:

First install FULL NI-package, reboot and your needed visa32 / visa64 drivers are ready for "rigupgr.exe".

Search for "rigupgr" on this forum (quite early in this thread).

The rest goes as described in the post with the link for "rigupgr.exe".


NI-package in my case:

http://www.ni.com/da-dk/support/downloads/drivers/download.ni-visa.html#305862


Thanks :-)
« Last Edit: July 11, 2019, 02:47:27 pm by TheDog »
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1821 on: August 28, 2019, 01:59:00 pm »
As it happened that I got a Rigol DS1052E with hardware revision 59 and the latest firmware 4.2.1 (00.04.02.01.00) on my desk I performed the 100MHz hack by updating the device with a modified firmware. Here are the steps to modify the firmware and perform the update:
PS This procedure doesn't change the serial or model number.
« Last Edit: August 28, 2019, 02:00:33 pm by lastNick »
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1822 on: September 03, 2019, 10:28:16 pm »
I also did the "one byte" hack to my DS1052E.

My HW version is 58 and my firmware version was: 00.02.06.00.01

I downloaded the last firmware (00.04.02.01.00) from the Rigol site:
https://www.rigolna.com/firmware/

I changed one byte with HxD hex editor and made the upgrade via USB stick that I first formatted to FAT.

Now I can go down to 2ns timescale.

Thanx to all that have made this possible.
 


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