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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #475 on: January 11, 2011, 01:04:58 pm »
AndrewK,

If that's your concern, just use the 2.05SP2 version.... it's supposedly bug fixed and is a genuine OEM firmware release. I very much doubt Rigol would be concerned if you had used their official firmware upgrade.

Consider the fact that a DSO is a significantly microprocessor based product though.... if a fault occurs in the microprocessor area you may not have the ability to install any firmware after it fails, 2.05 or any other for that matter.

With regard to the 3 year warranty.... whilst I understand your desire to maintain the warranty, I decided that my AideTek USA supplied DS1052E (despatched from Hong Kong), would probably cost more to return for warranty repair than it will be worth at the time of failure. In my case I purchased a cheap ($375) DS1052E from outside the UK and considered it an acceptable risk that it might fail and end up as "spares or repair" on ebay  :D 
Hello, Aurora!
I know that a DSO is a significantly microprocessor based product.... ;) ;D if a fault occurs in the microprocessor area and if the power supply will dead, I can't install any firmware..... But switch, pushbutton, fan, input area, rs232 or usb contact etc.... ;) 8)  If I update My scope 00.02.05.00.00 to 00.02.05.01.02 will I have to auto calibrate?
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #476 on: January 11, 2011, 03:26:12 pm »
Hi AndrewK,

After any firmware update you should carry out the auto calibration routine. You may also auto calibrate at any time to ensure the accuracy of the scope readings.

In your situation with FW2.05 installed on a new DSO, if you desire the 100MHz bandwidth, I recommend downgrading the firmware to 2.02SP2 using the '2.05 to 2.02SP2' firmware file. Carry out the changes to configure the 100MHz bandwidth, then install firmware 2.04SP1 . I recommend that you do not use or calibrate the scope whilst it is running the FW2.02SP2 as it isn't totally compatible with HW58, but if you don't fiddle, you wiill be OK. Once you have installed FW2.04SP1, carry out the auto calibration routine with no inputs connected except the mains cable. You will then have a working HW58 DS1052E DSO with 100MHz bandwidth running a known stable and unmodified OEM firmware.

If at a later date you decide to upgrade the firmware version, that is still possible by just following the manufacturers upgrade instructions. You could install FW2.05SP2 any time you like and then run auto calibrate again. If a non OS critical component fails whilst you are running FW2.04SP1, you can downgrade to FW2.02SP2, change the settings back to the DS1052E standard 50MHz bandwidth and install FW2.05SP2 before returning it for repair under warranty. Even if the fault prevents auto calibration, it will not cause an issue at Rigol as that data would be overwritten once they repair and calibtrate it. The down side of the scenario is that when you get your scope back from repair, you may not be able to reapply the 100MHz modification unless the firmware header issue has been resolved by then.
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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #477 on: January 11, 2011, 04:39:39 pm »
I just upgraded my 2.05.00 1052E to 2.04 SP1 1102E, self-calibrated and it seems to be working great!  It is a HW58 model I purchased from Aidetek on eBay in November.  Thanks for the awesome guide and all the appropriate firmware files!
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #478 on: January 11, 2011, 08:37:49 pm »
Hi, Everybody!
I have successfully hacked My DS1052E HW58 00.02.05.00.00 scope to DS1102E via USB! It was the simpliest thing in the word!!!! ;) ;D 8)Thx a lot! :-*
« Last Edit: January 11, 2011, 09:52:03 pm by AndrewK »
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #479 on: January 11, 2011, 09:48:20 pm »
Hi, Everybody!
I have successfully hacked My DS1052E HW58 scope to DS1102E! Thx a lot!
Hey, All!!!
Be careful!!!!The 00.02.05.01.00 and 00.02.05.01.02 firmware is the same sp1 displayed, but as You know, not match these 2 files!!! Now with 00.02.05.01.02 firmware still the point of no return, and Some people named it(00.02.05.01.02) to 02.05 sp2!!!! This firmware still not support FAT & NTFS file systems..... ;) ::)
Aurora, this is not Your problem! Thanx everything You and Torch!

Hujujujujuuujjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj.......... :'( :o
There is another bug in 00.02.05.01.02(sp1/2) firmware..... :o When I put My 4GB Kingston pendrive into the scope USB with NTFS partition, the scope says:file system not supported(or something like this), but "do You want to format it?" when I choose yes, the screen hangs but the pendrive led flashing. I don't know, when will be finish the format(with full format and usb 1.1 it takes about 62 minutes! :o), or the scope hangs.... Very interesting......   ??? >:(
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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #480 on: January 11, 2011, 11:12:52 pm »
Aurora, this is not Your problem! Thanx everything You and Torch!

Just to clarify: I didn't do anything, I just summarized. It's guys like polossatik, killerwhale, d0ss and shafri that have done all the work on this. They are the ones that deserve our thanks.

THANKS GUYS!
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #481 on: January 11, 2011, 11:51:46 pm »
Aurora, this is not Your problem! Thanx everything You and Torch!

Just to clarify: I didn't do anything, I just summarized. It's guys like polossatik, killerwhale, d0ss and shafri that have done all the work on this. They are the ones that deserve our thanks.

THANKS GUYS!

Oh, oops!
You are right! I forgot to thank You guys: polossatic, d0ss, killerwhale and shafri. THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!!!!!
I'm testing the newest firmware. Baybe I find some more bugs.... ;D I have found 2...... I have waited more than one our to finish the scope format My pendrive without any result.....  :o:'( The pendrive LED is always still flashing. ??? Scope hanged......after restart, everything OK, and the pendrive has a FAT32 file system....
Wow!!! The FFT function disappeared from the menu... :'( :o ???
« Last Edit: January 12, 2011, 01:59:54 am by AndrewK »
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #482 on: January 13, 2011, 09:16:37 pm »
Hi,

Received my Rigol DS1052E from DealExtreme today (ordered 30 Dec.2010 - 14 days ago) among a bunch of other gadgets (how to resist all those useless great stuff they have overthere). Ugrading from my 35 years old/self-build/multi-repaired/5Mhz/mono-trace scope. geee - what a jump - was about time.

Just to let you guys know:
Original installed F/W: 00.02.05 SP1 (00.02.05.01.00)

* Installed UltraScope downloaded from first post (author: polossatik). http://rapidshare.com/files/391131901/Ultrascope_for_DS1000E_Series.exe
* Installed the visa462runtime.exe from first post (author: polossatik). http://ftp.ni.com/support/softlib/visa/VISA%20Run-Time%20Engine/4.6.2/win/
* Downloaded "Rigol Update" program from Shafri. https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=553.msg19727#msg19727
* Verified UltraScope working properly with my unmodified DS1052E - yes.
* Ran "Rigol Update" program and confirmed that it was reading my DS1052E - yes. NOTE - I (of course) DID *NOT* CLICKED THE "Upgrade Rigol" BUTTON.
* Downgrade my FW to 2.02SP2 using Killerwhale 2.05SP1_to2.02SP2 mod firmware by copying the file to the root of an USB flash drive (only file on drive) and putting it in the Rigol when turned "on" -https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=553.0;attach=5213
* Ran "Rigol Update" program, select "Check Rigol Model & Serial" and then "Upgrade Rigol" - wait for the beep+message.
* Turn off/on Rigol and confirm.
* Upgrade firmware to 2.04SP1 from dOss (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=553.msg19908#msg19908).
*Perform internal calibration.

The Ultrascope step don't seems necessary for the update but always nice to have.
All is nice so far.

Thank you.

Cheers.
« Last Edit: January 14, 2011, 02:22:52 pm by nono »
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #483 on: January 13, 2011, 09:50:36 pm »
nono,

Remember to run the inbuilt calibration routine after installing FW2.04SP1 ;)
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #484 on: January 13, 2011, 10:55:55 pm »
Hello, Guys!
The pendrive format was't perfect by the scope. The scope shows the partition, but the PC not see anything(00.02.05.01.02)....
Do the older firmwares the same?
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #485 on: January 14, 2011, 09:45:31 am »
* Downgrade my FW to 2.02SP2 using Killerwhale 2.05SP1_to2.02SP2 mod firmware by copying the file to the root of an USB flash drive (only file on drive) and putting it in the Rigol when turned "on" -https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=553.0;attach=5213

I haven't seen a checksum published for killerwhale's 2.05 SP1 to 2.02 SP2 downgrade yet. Can you (or anyone else who's used it successfully) confirm that the correct MD5 hash is 7cc0aac2e39f6a677dd0296344e33954 (that's what I got using HashCalc on the downloaded file)?
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #486 on: January 14, 2011, 02:29:29 pm »
That's what I have/use for 2.05SP1_to_2.02SP2 (DS10000EUpdate.RGL file) from KillerWhale:
7cc0aac2e39f6a677dd0296344e33954

 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #487 on: January 14, 2011, 09:47:26 pm »
you get a bit busy for a week or 2 and you have to wad trough 10's of pages of the thread to get up to spead..

hehehe

I'm rewriting the first post right now, so hold your horses if you have upgrade questions for the moment

edit: I was thinking about using the wiki , but that has so much spam.....

The Ultrascope step don't seems necessary for the update but always nice to have.

no, it's not needed in any way, but it's a very good step to check if your USB drivers are working good, hnce why I added that .
You don't want to have windows lock up while updating the firware nr or so :)
« Last Edit: January 14, 2011, 09:51:01 pm by polossatik »
Real Circuit design time in minutes= (2 + Nscopes) Testim + (40 +120 Kbrewski) Nfriends

Testim = estimated time in minutes Nscopes= number of oscilloscopes present Kbrewski = linear approx of the nonlinear beer effect Nfriends = number of circuit design friends present
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #488 on: January 15, 2011, 01:12:40 am »
ok, first post updated, should be good for everyone up to 00.02.05.01.00

comments etc welcome

thankx for everyone who added their files, info etc to this thread!
« Last Edit: January 15, 2011, 02:08:00 am by polossatik »
Real Circuit design time in minutes= (2 + Nscopes) Testim + (40 +120 Kbrewski) Nfriends

Testim = estimated time in minutes Nscopes= number of oscilloscopes present Kbrewski = linear approx of the nonlinear beer effect Nfriends = number of circuit design friends present
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #489 on: January 15, 2011, 11:49:28 am »
updated the last (point 6) section in the guide about what  firmware to use after doing the hack.

comments welcome.
Real Circuit design time in minutes= (2 + Nscopes) Testim + (40 +120 Kbrewski) Nfriends

Testim = estimated time in minutes Nscopes= number of oscilloscopes present Kbrewski = linear approx of the nonlinear beer effect Nfriends = number of circuit design friends present
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #490 on: January 15, 2011, 12:34:54 pm »
Excellent work, as always!  Could you place your last revision date on the very top of the modified message?  Other than your comments and reading the whole text, the only confirmation of a revision is the "Last Edit" date viewed at the bottom.  The message creation date is always the same, from May 2010.

updated the last (point 6) section in the guide about what  firmware to use after doing the hack.

comments welcome.
Best Wishes,

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« Reply #491 on: January 15, 2011, 01:07:50 pm »
updated the last (point 6) section in the guide about what  firmware to use after doing the hack.

comments welcome.

I think there is a typo -- actually two -- in the point just before step 4:

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3)c) your firmware is 00.02.05 SP1 ( 00.02.05.01.02 ) or higher

no luck yet. follow the thread from page 33 onwards

I think this should read:

3)d) your firmware is 00.02.05 SP2 (00.02.05.01.02) or higher

no luck yet. follow the thread from page 33 onwards.

(suggested changes in blue)

I suggest this because the step before this one is also numbered 3)c) and details how to change 2.05 and 2.05 SP1  ;)

 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #492 on: January 15, 2011, 03:30:36 pm »
Hi guys, an other ds1052e just been upgraded here !!! ;D  , received it yesterday fron DealExcel, ordered december 24 ,received in Canada january 14 , received it with 02.05.00.00 and hw 58 !!!

Thanks guys for the good work !!!
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #493 on: January 15, 2011, 04:00:00 pm »

I think this should read:

3)d) your firmware is 00.02.05 SP2 (00.02.05.01.02) or higher

no luck yet. follow the thread from page 33 onwards.

(suggested changes in blue)

I suggest this because the step before this one is also numbered 3)c) and details how to change 2.05 and 2.05 SP1  ;)

thankx changed the C to D

AFAIK 00.02.05.01.02 is reported as SP1 not SP2, somewhere in the thread i saw it being referenced as SP2 and then a few posts later someone pointed out is still reported as SP1.

I'll leave it as SP1 until someone on that version confirms/denies this.
Real Circuit design time in minutes= (2 + Nscopes) Testim + (40 +120 Kbrewski) Nfriends

Testim = estimated time in minutes Nscopes= number of oscilloscopes present Kbrewski = linear approx of the nonlinear beer effect Nfriends = number of circuit design friends present
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #494 on: January 15, 2011, 04:19:49 pm »
Hi all, another succes here, my Rigol successfull upgraded to 100MHZ, THANK YOU!!!!
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #495 on: January 15, 2011, 07:04:46 pm »
AFAIK 00.02.05.01.02 is reported as SP1 not SP2, somewhere in the thread i saw it being referenced as SP2 and then a few posts later someone pointed out is still reported as SP1.

I'll leave it as SP1 until someone on that version confirms/denies this.

Looking back over it again, you may be right. AndrewK says that both 00.02.05.01.00 and 00.02.05.01.02 are reported as "2.05 SP1" by the scope, even though some people are calling it "SP2". There may not actually be an SP2 yet -- just a "bug fix" of 2.05 SP1. That would actually make more sense, given the numbering system.

 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #496 on: January 19, 2011, 12:25:29 am »
Mine arrived today (ordered from DX Dec. 30, shipped by mail Jan. 5). It came with hardware version 58 and firmware 00.02.05.01.00 -- identified as 00.02.05 SP1 on the boot screen.

I can confirm it does have the trigger bug -- ie: it locks up the machine if set to rise/fall and the only way out is to cycle the power and hold run/stop when the boot screen appears.

I'm going to leave it run for a 24 hour burn-in. Is there anything I can check on this virgin machine that would be of help to the hackers before I apply the hack?

(BTW: I used DX's "gift" option on the shipping -- plain brown wrapper and tagged as "gift". Declared value was within the custom's rules for gifts and it slid right in with no hassles or duties applied).  ;)
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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #497 on: January 19, 2011, 09:38:44 am »
Hey, Guys!
Here is the newest firmware downgrade!
00.02.05.01.02 and olders to 00.02.02.SP2!
It's working.... ;) 8)  ;D :-*
My scope already with 00.02.04sp1 firmware.....
Does anybody have the original 00.02.05.00.00 firmware?
« Last Edit: January 19, 2011, 09:45:51 am by AndrewK »
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #498 on: January 19, 2011, 12:58:48 pm »
Hi AndrewK,

Very nice  :)

Thanks for sharing
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #499 on: January 19, 2011, 01:44:42 pm »
My scope already with 00.02.04sp1 firmware.....
Does anybody have the original 00.02.05.00.00 firmware?

That's great news!

I don't think anyone has posted the original 2.05 firmware anywhere in this thread. I downloaded each file as they were posted over the last few months, and I don't have it in my collection.
 


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