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Offline rvosatka

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1425 on: November 28, 2013, 04:03:43 am »
Hi all,

Thank you for all the help!  I bought a DS1052E direct from Rigol USA.  It arrived in about 2 days, not bad.  Within an hour, I had it changed to a DS1102E.

It would have been faster, but I ran into a couple of (minor) glitches.  First I had a non-working USB (duh!).  The next USB was 32 gb formatted in FAT32.  The FAT32 USB did not work.  After a bit of work I learned that the disk should be FAT16. I have a Mac OSX, it is a bit hard to format in MSDOS FAT 16.  To do so you must (per that Apple website):
To format the SD card, you will need the path to the SD card device and the SD card device number.
1. Insert the SD Card into a card reader.
2. If you don't know how to find the device number of the SD Card, here is one way to do it:
2b. Open Disk Utility
2c. Highlight the SD Card device (upper icon), not the SD Card volume (lower icon)
2d. Click Erase at the top of the window
2e. Select *Volume Format: MS-DOS (FAT)* Click Erase... > Click Erase
The SD Card Volume Name will change to the UNIX device number e.g. "disk5s1". Note this number as it will change by itself to "Untitled". It is now formatted in MS-DOS FAT 32. We need to reformat it in FAT 16.

Once you have the device number of the SD Card, you need the path to the SD card device.
3. For my Mac, the path to devices is "/dev". In a terminal window: type "cd /dev" and hit the "Return" key to go to the "dev" directory. Then type "ls" (with a lower case L) and "Return" key. You should see the SD Card device number listed.

Formatting the SD Card in FAT 16:
4. In Disk Utility, highlight the SD Card device and click Unmount at the top, not Eject. The desktop icon of the SD card will disappear.
5. Go to the Terminal window. Be careful to type the following command with the correct letter case and spacing. Again, make sure you type the correct device number and path as *you can very easily erase your hard drive in UNIX.*
Type the command:
*newfs_msdos -F 16 (path to SD Card device)/(SD Card device number)*
e.g. newfs_msdos -F 16 /dev/disk5s1
and hit the "Return" key.
6. If you get just a new prompt (or a prompt with some warnings, e.g. below), the command executed successfully. You can remove the SD Card; it is now formatted in FAT 16. You can verify this in Disk Utility after mounting the SD Card.
If you get some instructions on the newfs_msdos command with a new prompt, the command did not execute. Make sure you enter the command with the correct case and spacing. Hint: to re-enter a previous command you typed, hit the up arrow repeatedly. For more information, type: "man newfs_msdos". Scroll with arrow keys. Type "q" to quit and return to prompt.

Warnings Example
newfs_msdos: warning: /dev/disk5s1 is not a character device
/dev/disk5s1: 1998208 sectors in 62444 FAT16 clusters (16384 bytes/cluster)
bps=512 spc=32 res=1 nft=2 rde=512 mid=0xf0 spf=244 spt=32 hds=128 hid=0 bsec=1998738


This did not work (I think that a 32gb drive is too large for FAT16 to fully address.  Stuck it in the Rigol: no go.  I found a cheap USB drive (less than 1gb) and formatted it as above. 

Popped it into the Rigol: moments late it told me to press "OK" and Voila: DS1102E.

I would like to learn how I can (easily) confirm that it is actually capable of 100mhz bandwidth.  Any suggestions?


 
 

Offline nexusprime

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1426 on: November 28, 2013, 07:35:19 am »
Ok, now is working. I used 256mb sd card connected via 5 in 1 usb adapter ;)
One more question before i push ok, can i downgrade to the previous version in case of warranty?
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1427 on: November 28, 2013, 07:30:52 pm »
... can i downgrade to the previous version...

You can only "downgrade" to the original 00.04.01.00.02.
It's only possible to flash firmware with higher or equal version number.
 

Offline straycat

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1428 on: November 29, 2013, 11:45:13 am »
 If you already have firmware 00.04.00.00.01 or lower when you got your DSO then i wouldnt change it. After speaking to a service personal from RIGOL he explained that the firmware updates should only be used if you are having any issues with your DSO and then its very unlikely its the firmware...  The only time you should update your firmware is when advised to by RIGOL.  What i mean by this is whatever your DSO firmware was originally...do the hack and STICK with the same firmware. ONLY do the hack if you TRULY need a 100mhz not just for the sake of doing it.      I have a genuine 00.04.01.00.02. if anyone fancy having a go to mod it for downgrading then let me know.  :-+
« Last Edit: November 30, 2013, 06:58:04 pm by straycat »
 

Offline lektronick

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1429 on: December 01, 2013, 03:37:33 pm »
Hello everyone.
There is a desire to flash 1052 to 1102 by lowering the firmware. Will I be able to do this and what do I need to flash the firmware 1052? Now version 00.04.00.00.01 hw 58 than me to flash. In the header is not an option lower than version 04.00.
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1430 on: December 01, 2013, 07:32:55 pm »
Hi yes you can lower  00.04.00.00.01 firmware.There is a firmware mod for that one down to 00.02 then do the hack via usb then back up to 00.04.00.00.01.MAKE SURE YOU WRITE DOWN SERIAL NO,HARDWARE VERSION AS ONCE YOU DOWNGRADE WITH THE MOD IT SEEMS TO disappear. MY ADVICE IS NOT TO USE FIRMWARE 00.04.01.00.02 AFTER IT IS DONE AS YOU WONT BE ABLE TO DOWNGRADE WITH THIS FIRMWARE. STICK WITH YOUR original FIRMWARE.
« Last Edit: December 01, 2013, 08:03:38 pm by straycat »
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1431 on: December 02, 2013, 03:03:24 am »
All went well.
Downgraded the firmware to 2.02
: INFO: MODEL DS1102E
: INFO: SERIAL DS1EB1516xxxxx
: INFO: HARDVERSION 58
Increased to 04.00

The only thing that I noticed at work when the display is in the bands first and then splash, before bands could not be seen.
« Last Edit: December 04, 2013, 01:41:14 pm by lektronick »
 

Offline straycat

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1432 on: December 02, 2013, 11:01:57 am »
Great,now run the self calibrate,make sure nothing is connected to the inputs. Run the scope first for a good 30 mins before running the self calibrate and that should be it :-+. PS  not sure what you mean by bands. But hopefully after the calibration you should have no problems.
« Last Edit: December 02, 2013, 11:07:38 am by straycat »
 

Offline lektronick

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« Reply #1433 on: December 02, 2013, 02:32:02 pm »
Yes, calibration launched the inputs nothing, and everything was calibrated.
Strip when the vertical, is the initialization of the display .
But these bands are not important.
The main thing that you can DS1ETxxxxx also lower, although in many places seen on the net that is not possible.

Thanks straycat for the information and everything else for the promotion in the subject  :-+
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1434 on: December 02, 2013, 04:27:48 pm »
Your welcome,if i can help anyone i will. Mine started with DS1ET i had no problems changing it. :-+
« Last Edit: December 02, 2013, 07:05:05 pm by straycat »
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1435 on: December 04, 2013, 12:35:10 am »
Thank you Gizmo,

I was afraid of trying the hack for a long time by reading lots of the posts around here about downgrading etc, and forgotten about it until tonight. But hey, I now have a 100Mhz scope.
It was so easy to do

Thank you so much again,   :-+
 

Offline alejoal07

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1436 on: December 05, 2013, 01:48:26 pm »
Here is the original DS1052E v00.04.01.00.02 Firmware for those who were asking for it  :scared:

Use this .RGL file the same way you used Gizmo's for updating to the hacked version and you'll be back to stock  :-+

MD5 Checksum: 554266B48F86E0BF3DA3E6AA832C6609

http://www.4shared.com/zip/UgyzOw5R/DS1052E_0004010002.html

Enjoy!
 

Offline straycat

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1437 on: December 08, 2013, 11:15:31 am »
Finally got firmware 00.04.01.00.02 for downgrading,back to my original 00.04.00.00.01. :-+
« Last Edit: December 08, 2013, 11:18:39 am by straycat »
 

Offline chriskim

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1438 on: December 09, 2013, 12:59:08 am »
I have a DS1052E with software 2.05 SP2 and hardware version 58 from about 3 years old.
Is it still possible to hack it to 100Mhz?
I looked up the old guide, but the software links are not available anymore.
If anyone can point me where to begin, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks.
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1439 on: December 09, 2013, 02:02:45 pm »
Hi,yes you still should be able to mod your scope.There are two ways you can do this..... 1= Using gizmo mod firmware 00.04.01.00.02 install it on a memory stick,plug it in the scope and that is it. The only thing is you cant downgrade back to the original firmware. If this is not a problem for you then this would be your best bet. 2= The other way is to install the 04.00 to 02.02 mod using a usb to change the serial number.If you do it this way write down all the info ie... hardware no,serial no as it disappears then use info guide on page 80. Hope this helps.
« Last Edit: December 09, 2013, 02:05:44 pm by straycat »
 

Offline chriskim

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1440 on: December 09, 2013, 07:16:21 pm »
Thanks Straycat for the pointers.
Is there a step by step guides with the firmware file links for the #2 option?
I am a newbie and don't want to brick my scope, but not knowing what I was doing. :)
Much appreciated!
 

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« Reply #1441 on: December 09, 2013, 07:53:46 pm »
Hi chriskim, yer page 1 if you scroll down you should see a guide and the firmwares that you need to do the mod. Dont be in a hurry to do it,study it first,take you time as one wrong move will brick your scope.
« Last Edit: December 09, 2013, 08:06:36 pm by straycat »
 

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« Reply #1442 on: December 18, 2013, 07:24:50 pm »
Having the firmware 00.04.01.00.02 patched so i could downgrade back to my original 00.04.00.00.01 was a task in itself.Myself and two very good work colleagues spend many hours and long nights working on the firmware. We were looking through gizmos patched firmware 00.04.01.00.02 from 50 to 100 and we cant see how it was done,in fact we found no change to the genuine 00.04.01.00.02. So hands up to you gizmo.
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1443 on: December 19, 2013, 04:55:03 pm »
...were looking through gizmos patched firmware 00.04.01.00.02 from 50 to 100 and we cant see how it was done,in fact we found no change to the genuine 00.04.01.00.02. ...
In the original file on address 0x1C4DD you can see a 0x09. In the patched version there is a 0x01! That's the only difference. ^-^

 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1444 on: December 19, 2013, 05:04:04 pm »
Thanks mudman. Recently got the latest firmware for my ds1102e its not the same as ds1052e firmware.Has anyone tried to install 1102 firmware in a 1052e after hacking?
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1445 on: December 23, 2013, 02:00:13 pm »
Thanks Gizmo!
I've upgrade my DS1052E(*1) to 100MHz hacked one(*2)

*1  FW: 00.03.01.00.00, HW: 58
*2 Hacked FW: 00.04.01.00.02, HW: 58

It was really simple and easy except one thing that I had to format my 4GB USB flash memory with FAT32.
(FAT16 formatted USB flash memory didn't work)

I confirmed that bandwidth of my scope is really extended to just 100MHz from just 50MHz.



Here we go, latest firmware update (00.04.01.00.02) with 100Mhz mod.

CRC32: 4EF27EF4
MD5: b3be022a8890c7448ed68a189c1071b1

https://anonfiles.com/file/be1d042d3757bd9073335a09554ccea3

And kindly also hosted more permanently here:

http://jahansen.com/rigol/DS1000EUpdate.00.04.01.00.02.zip

Instructions as before --

Copy the DS1000EUpdate.RGL file from the zip onto a memory stick, put it in the scope, and select OK when it asks if you want to update the firmware. It's that simple.

For your peace of mind, check the file's MD5 against the above number when it's on your memory stick to ensure it's correct before flashing and always do "eject" on the drive if using windows before pulling out the stick. The scope doesn't bother with any data integrity checking, which is a bit of a shame, so if the file is corrupted at all, you will most likely brick the scope.

Gizmo
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1446 on: December 31, 2013, 12:36:21 am »
Hi Gizmo,

do you think you could modify also FW for DS1052D ?
I've read all pages here, but I didn't find modified FW for D-version. I would like to use your 'easy' way to hack my DS1052D scope  ;)
Thanks in advance.

GreySam

After much hacking, here's a custom firmware which sets the DS1052E to be a DS1102E. You wont notice any difference in serial or model number, but you now have the functionality of the DS1102E scope (2ns minimum time scale / 100Mhz). I've tested it and my 32Mhz clock I was looking at definitely has more resolution, so it is working.

CRC32: E62BB61B
MD5: 01d2d46d6c565c492b6f49725404f18b

http://synfin.net/public/DS1000EUpdate.rar

For anyone who is sceptical, do a file compare between the official 00.04.00.00.01 firmware and this one, and you'll see only one byte has changed.

As ever use at your own risk, blah blah. Works for my hardware 58 version DS1052E scope.


Edit:
May as well add some instructions. Copy the DS1000EUpdate.RGL file from the rar onto a memory stick, put it in the scope, and select OK when it asks if you want to update. It's that simple.

For your peace of mind, check the file's MD5 against the above number when it's on your memory stick to ensure it's correct before flashing. The scope doesn't bother with any data integrity checking, which is a bit of a shame, so if the file is corrupted at all, you will most likely brick the scope.
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1447 on: January 02, 2014, 05:51:48 pm »
Hey Polossatik I don't know if it's just me but I think the download links for the, "DS1052_to_DS1102.zip" file is broken.  Can you fix it? just when you go to fix it that your logged out of your fileshare account.
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1448 on: January 02, 2014, 11:25:45 pm »
I just bought a Rigol DS1052E direct from Rigol, delivered today 2 Jan 14.
Original specs were:
DS1ET
00.04.00.00.01

I put this file on a fat16 formatted usb stick: http://jahansen.com/rigol/DS1000EUpdate.00.04.01.00.02.zip

Plugged it into the DS1052E's front usb slot and selected 'YES' when prompted to upgrade.

Now the model and serial numbers are the same but Software Version is: 00.04.01.00.02

I can now select 2.000ns on the horizontal time scale. Sweet.
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1449 on: January 03, 2014, 02:29:31 am »
Mine also.  Just received a DS1ET,  ver: 00.04.01.00.02, dsp: 00.01,  fpga: 03.07, hardware ver: 58
Upgrade worked flawlessly.  Time scale down to 2ns.
Thanks!
« Last Edit: January 03, 2014, 03:01:12 am by besttry1st »
 


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