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Offline szafranski

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1825 on: July 20, 2020, 04:52:37 pm »
EDIT: Ok, so I will write my story with an update. I bought some scope with very old FW like 00.01 or sth. I firstly update it to the newest 04.02.01 - from the Rigol site:

https://www.rigolna.com/firmware/

No problem.

Next I did everything what is written on this site:

http://www.g4ztd.info/rigol-ds1052e-oscilloscope-hack/

using this site/program as an hex editor:

https://hexed.it/

and program named "hashcalc" as an checksum generator/checker.

Everything works just fine now :)

thanks for previous posts. It gave me some confidence.

 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1826 on: July 27, 2020, 03:51:57 pm »
Good day! Bought Rigol DS1052E with software 00.04.02 SP1, but HW is not wiev. Can I flash DS1052E to DS1102E with Unlock? Thanks for any help!
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1827 on: July 27, 2020, 04:00:49 pm »
I basically did just that :) help needed?
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1828 on: July 27, 2020, 05:51:56 pm »
I basically did just that :) help needed?
Yes! I need help
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1829 on: July 27, 2020, 06:03:02 pm »
So if you have some questions that answered maybe beneficial for others - write here on the forum. If you have some other questions and you rather want to talk more like a "chat" you can hit me PM or e-mail.
« Last Edit: July 27, 2020, 06:27:54 pm by szafranski »
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1830 on: July 27, 2020, 06:29:10 pm »
So if you have some questions that answered maybe beneficial for other - write here on the forum. If you have some other questions and you rather want to talk more like a "chat" you can hit me PM or e-mail.
Can you help! In my 00019690 is it 10 89 e5 01 00 a8 61 08 08 05 10 09 60 89 e6 7d. And Where write a serial number! Thanks
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1831 on: July 27, 2020, 06:32:31 pm »
Your serial number is irrelevant. Just do it according to those instructions:
 
http://www.g4ztd.info/rigol-ds1052e-oscilloscope-hack/

You just have to change 1 value in one line in a file and than copy it on a thumb drive and connect to the oscilosope. I can even send U that file if you don't want to mess with ot.
« Last Edit: July 27, 2020, 06:34:30 pm by szafranski »
 
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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1833 on: October 19, 2020, 04:00:30 am »
Have a stock 10 year old DS1052E, hardware version 57, software version 00.02.04.00.01. 
After much poking around in this thread, found that the instructions here worked fine: 
    http://www.g4ztd.info/rigol-ds1052e-oscilloscope-hack/

Specifically, downloaded the 2mbyte binary file for "DS1000E 00.04.02.01.00"  from https://www.rigolna.com/firmware/
Used a binary editor to change the byte at address 0x01969B from 0x09 to 0x01
Wrote it out to a 32GB Samsung MUF-32AB/AM USB flash drive with a FAT32 file system.
Verified the md5 hash of the modified file to be  5DD088F282E3D9653392E9CCBDEA6601
Powered down the scope, plugged the flash drive in, powered it up, answered the prompt,
and spent 2 minutes worrying the power might fail till it confirmed the update was successful.
Powered down, removed the flash drive, powered up, verified the timebase now went down to 2ns.

A few things that slowed me down:
Some suggest the flash drive should be very old or have a FAT16 file system, but this update worked fine
with a 32GB FAT32 USB 3.1 spec device less than a year old.  Could be that bigger flash drives don't work?
Lots of weblinks in this thread to already hacked binary files, but didn't find any such files that still exist
so I wound up just editing the binary file from the Rigol site.
Wasn't clear if this really old scope with version 57 hardware would work with g4ztd's simple approach,
but I didn't encounter any issues.

I am curious if anybody knows the changes between hardware versions,
specifically between my version 57 and the much more common version 58.

Amazing that after a decade this thing is still in production.
A very successful product.


Edits after initial post:

Manuals are here:  https://www.rigolna.com/products/digital-oscilloscopes/ds1000e/ds1052e/
Includes User's Guide, Service Manual, and a Programming Guide.
Chapter four of the Service Manual has a very easy to perform self-calibrate procedure.

This update is risky to do, getting something wrong will make the scope unusable and almost impossible to fix.  Not obvious the update works for all DS1052E scopes.  I doubt you will get Rigol to fix a botched hack.  The scope does not verify the 2mbyte file before updating, and there is no backup firmware on the scope if it fails.
 Here's a thread of those trying to fix a bricked scope:  https://www.eevblog.com/forum/blog/the-dark-side-of-the-rigol-hack-bricked-scope-how-to-fix-it/ 
« Last Edit: October 19, 2020, 02:29:27 pm by arc5hack »
 
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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1834 on: October 26, 2020, 03:23:22 pm »
Long time reader, 1st time poster to this forum.  Just wanted to confirm that I too just painlessly converted 1 of my 2 ds1052E scopes.  I won't repeat all of what I did as it is an exact duplicate of the previous poster's(arc5hack) experience. (I've hacked a few arc5's and scr274n's myself!)  IOW, I did the one byte edit on the latest Rigol s/w as described precisely on g4ztd's page.  I'll note my exceptions.

My scope had version 00.02.05 SP2  FPGA version 2.00  Hardware version 58.  I used an 8Gb thumbdrive with FAT32 file system.  I verified the md5 checksum of the file after copying it to the drive.  Installed with no issues.  Performs as expected.

Now it has s/w version 00.04.02 SP1  FPGA version 03.07  Hardware version 58.

Thanks to all who made this possible.  I believe the original person credited with this work is Gizmo, but I realize it takes a village and this thread is around 10yrs running.  On a final note, it pays to review an entire thread even if it's this long.  I was fully prepared to do the original method (downgrade, change, upgrade, etc) as described in post #1.  I'm sure many were successful using that method.  This method of changing 1 byte has less chances for error[at least by me!] IMHO. 
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1835 on: November 16, 2020, 04:51:33 pm »
Long time reader, 1st time poster to this forum.

Same here.

I followed arc5hack's post word-by-word and it worked flawlessly, with one exception. I had to put in the USB stick while the scope was already running, but then it found the firmware update file immediately.

My scope had version 00.02.05 SP2  FPGA version 2.00  Hardware version 58.
Now it has s/w version 00.04.02 SP1  FPGA version 03.07  Hardware version 58.

Same here. Thanks from my side, too.
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1836 on: April 24, 2021, 08:14:04 pm »
If anyone is still rocking those in 2021 I just got meself a used 1052E, followed Arc5's steps right above and that worked right up

Downloaded latest firmware from rigol, uploaded to an online hex editor, changed the value, redownloaded file onto formatted usb stick, compared windows cmd md5 checksum and booted it up the scope

persformed a self calibration just to be sure and it's now rolling down to 2ns

Seems like the mod doesn't only improve the useable range but also makes overall use smoother and more accurate.

Thanks everyone for sharing your tips on this awesome mod!
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1837 on: February 09, 2022, 09:53:04 am »
Many thanks for the description and FW. I successfully updated my DS1052E to 100MHz. :-+
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1838 on: March 22, 2022, 11:55:51 am »
Help me!!!
My oscilloscope DS1052E lost trigger. Status here

I have reset, calibrated, updated firmware but no improvement.
Can anyone help me why is this happening?
Thanks yours help so much
« Last Edit: March 22, 2022, 02:40:47 pm by uoemx »
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1839 on: March 22, 2022, 04:31:07 pm »
Help me!!!
My oscilloscope DS1052E lost trigger.

My guess: It looks like you forgot to adjust the trigger level.

Have a look in the manual at page 2-34:
https://cdn-shop.adafruit.com/datasheets/Users+Guide+DS1000E.pdf

The function test (and probe compensation) is described at page 1-8
« Last Edit: March 22, 2022, 04:33:20 pm by hammy »
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1840 on: March 23, 2022, 08:00:14 am »
Quote from: hammy
My guess: It looks like you forgot to adjust the trigger level.

Have a look in the manual at page 2-34:
https://cdn-shop.adafruit.com/datasheets/Users+Guide+DS1000E.pdf

The function test (and probe compensation) is described at page 1-8

Thanks "hammy"
Thank you for your support. I changed the selections in the trigger but still no change
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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1841 on: March 23, 2022, 10:03:32 am »
I changed the selections in the trigger but still no change

I see. You are right, I made the funktion test with mine this morning and the trigger should work using the "Auto"-button.
Another thing that is different: It only activates CH1 on my scope. CH2 stays off.

Do you started the self-calibration after the firmware update?
The manual says on page 2-68:
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Self-Calibration: Oscilloscope will calibrate parameter of vertical system (CH1,
CH2, and Ext), horizontal system and trigger system.
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(Disconnect all probes before the self-calibration.)

Please compensate the probe as well, if you havent done it already.
The probe in your video looks different than mine that came with the scope. Is the probe ok?
« Last Edit: March 23, 2022, 10:20:09 am by hammy »
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1842 on: March 23, 2022, 12:00:51 pm »
I changed the selections in the trigger but still no change

I see. You are right, I made the funktion test with mine this morning and the trigger should work using the "Auto"-button.
Another thing that is different: It only activates CH1 on my scope. CH2 stays off.

Do you started the self-calibration after the firmware update?
The manual says on page 2-68:
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Self-Calibration: Oscilloscope will calibrate parameter of vertical system (CH1,
CH2, and Ext), horizontal system and trigger system.
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(Disconnect all probes before the self-calibration.)

Please compensate the probe as well, if you havent done it already.
The probe in your video looks different than mine that came with the scope. Is the probe ok?

Of course when I update the firmware I will have to recalibrate. When calibrating, pull out the measuring stick and it's fully automatic
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1843 on: March 23, 2022, 09:25:57 pm »
Of course when I update the firmware I will have to recalibrate. When calibrating, pull out the measuring stick and it's fully automatic
Then I have no more ideas.
 
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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1844 on: March 24, 2022, 02:49:52 am »
Of course when I update the firmware I will have to recalibrate. When calibrating, pull out the measuring stick and it's fully automatic
Then I have no more ideas.
Thank you Hammy. Can you see what's wrong with this for me?
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1845 on: March 25, 2022, 10:32:32 pm »
Thank you Hammy. Can you see what's wrong with this for me?
Better rated Tectronix probe. Should do the job fine.
As I said, I'm out of ideas what could be wrong - aside from a hardware defect of the scope itself.

You got the scope new? Refund possible? Or do you own it a longer time?
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1846 on: April 21, 2022, 06:53:22 pm »
I've held off from modding mine because I remember reading somewhere, the bandwidth mod was causing trigger problems . Don't know where I read it, maybe here.
     
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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1847 on: April 26, 2022, 11:30:38 pm »
is this thread still alive? has anyone modded a DS1052D yet to 100mhz?
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1848 on: April 27, 2022, 01:14:56 am »
this may help as most of the links have died of old age it seems! :https://github.com/szafranski/Rigol_DS1052E-firmware
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1849 on: April 27, 2022, 07:45:48 pm »
Did anyone just use the link above? I am about to do mine, It is several years old, so hope I don't have to read through a couple thousand posts.
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