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Offline Conrad

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1500 on: March 20, 2014, 12:47:01 pm »
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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1501 on: March 22, 2014, 09:20:33 am »
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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1502 on: March 30, 2014, 05:54:25 pm »
Ok, HELP!  >:(

I have had my DS1052E about a year now. When it first arrived I tried the old hack over Rs232 and failed.. I gave up on it.
Now I have recently found the new hack with the firmware update, which I have performed 3 times now and I still cant get it to "take".

Any ideas.
It is currently loaded with 00.04.01 I cant tell (or remeber) which hardware version, that has dissapeared from the system info screen.

What else could I try?
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1503 on: March 31, 2014, 03:59:03 pm »
Hi ceecrb1. A friend of mine had the same problem all he done was got another usb stick a 1gig and it worked. He had a 4gig stick to start with but for some reason it wouldnt work. Your hardware version would most likely be 58 as mine is with fw 00.04.01. Hope this helps.
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1504 on: April 01, 2014, 10:03:05 pm »
No joy at all!
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1505 on: April 02, 2014, 09:11:48 am »
Hi, that is strange, does you ds pick up the usb stick?... The only other way is to change the model and serial number. If you got fw 00.04.01.00.02 then you need a mod fw to bring it down to 00.02,as far as im aware no one has made the mod to downgrade on fw 00.04.01.00.02 except myself and others i work with,as we go the long way around changing the serial/model no.All id say is keep trying other usb sticks with gizmos 00.04.01.00.02 mod and hopefully you will find one that works. :-+
« Last Edit: April 02, 2014, 09:15:08 am by straycat »
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1506 on: April 07, 2014, 04:18:15 am »
Thanks fellas,

Installed and working well.  Took a bit to wade threw all the post to figure out how easy it is now with the usb firmware update.  Also had issues with a 4 gig memstick and had to find a 2 gig to make it work.  Also for newbs, only copy the DS1000EUpdate.RGL file to the mem stick, don't copy the .MD5 file.  Power off the scope, install the memstick, power back on and accept the update.  Restart and enjoy.

Again very cool hack thanks again.

Jeff
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1507 on: April 08, 2014, 09:19:41 am »
The downgrade is currently only possible for scopes who come with an firmware up to 00.02.05.02.00
See below , in step 2) is shown how to check your firmware version


Hi was wondering whether the USB stick upgrade/hack works regardless of firmware version ?

I'm just about to buy a new 1052 (so it's likely it will have a late firmware) and am only choosing it because of the 100meg hack
(Otherwise for the same price I see a 50megTenma with bigger screen for same price)

Thanks in advance  :)
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1508 on: April 08, 2014, 01:25:18 pm »
mikep123,. Yes as far as im aware the update fw should work on your scope. :-+
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1509 on: April 10, 2014, 01:07:38 pm »
Hi guys,

I'm trying to flash my scope with Gizmo's firmware, but it won't give me the option to install the update. The update file shows up in the disk management screen, but i'm unable to load it.

I've tried using a number of small usb drives, varying from 2-8 gb and none have helped. My scope's firmware is 00.04.01.00.02.

Is there anything else that anyone could suggest I can try to get this update to take? Is there a way to force the update during boot with a key-press or something?
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1510 on: April 10, 2014, 02:28:23 pm »
Crispytato,

Take the 2 gig stick and format it as fat not fat32.
Unzip the files onto your hard drive. take the file DS1000EUpdate.RGL  ONLY and put just that file on the memstick. No folders just that single file.
Eject / safely remove the device to make sure windows closes the file properly on the memstick.
Plug it into the scope while the power is on and make sure you can see the file in the file menu. 
Remove the memstick, power off the scope, install the memstick, power on the scope. 
After it boots you should get a message to upgrade, just follow the prompts.

HTH,
Jeff
« Last Edit: April 10, 2014, 02:32:09 pm by Jeff D »
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1511 on: April 11, 2014, 10:47:45 am »
Crispytato,

Take the 2 gig stick and format it as fat not fat32.
Unzip the files onto your hard drive. take the file DS1000EUpdate.RGL  ONLY and put just that file on the memstick. No folders just that single file.
Eject / safely remove the device to make sure windows closes the file properly on the memstick.
Plug it into the scope while the power is on and make sure you can see the file in the file menu. 
Remove the memstick, power off the scope, install the memstick, power on the scope. 
After it boots you should get a message to upgrade, just follow the prompts.

HTH,
Jeff

Thanks for the input Jeff. I have followed that exact procedure, with a number of different flash drives, and I have had no success at all. The file is read, I can rename it, and view it (only in the "Disk Management" view, not when I look at the "external" menu, like where you'd normally see captured waveforms) I have tried FAT16 on all of these sticks too. I was wondering if maybe it's windows 8.1 causing a problem with it's implementation of fat file system. I shall have a try at using a Windows XP virtual machine later on and seeing if that makes a difference. It doesn't seem to want to take at all, regardless of the circumstances  :(

Perhaps if someone could send me the standard update file for the 1052e, I can try and see if the stock one will be recognized, or maybe edit it's hex if the scope will see it.

My email is chrispy (dot) potato (at) gmail (dot) com.

I am considering buying a super low capacity flash drive and giving that a go. maybe a 512 or 256 mb part by a reputable manufacturer - which will no doubt cost significantly more than a 16gb would off the shelf at this point...  ::)
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1512 on: April 13, 2014, 02:55:56 am »
Gizmo, thanks so much, I really needed the extra bandwidth for some FPGA stuff and the mod worked perfectly. I wanted to look at some 165Mhz signals, and now can (though with a lot of attenuation):

 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1513 on: April 13, 2014, 12:57:32 pm »
Hmm,strange rigol not got it.Anyway yer gizmos mod fw is most peps best bet,as the downgrade way is risky,but interestly after playing around with the scopes at work we have found that just by changing the model no you can mod your dso, dont need to change serial no.

Straycat,

Gizmos patch is precisely based on that assumption. The code, where the patch is done, is only testing the model number (in the end, it's something like testing x10x, x05x, x15x).

So, if you only mod your model number you should get the same result as gizmos patch. And, no need for FW patching anymore.
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1514 on: April 13, 2014, 01:20:02 pm »
Another winner :-+ 2ns/div now. thanks Gizmo :clap:

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1515 on: April 14, 2014, 12:31:33 pm »
For the people who've successfully flashed gizmo's firmware, would you mind sharing what kind of flash drive you used, and what the firmware details of your scope were? was it Hw 58? And the latest 04.02.01 firmware?

Thanks!
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1516 on: April 14, 2014, 12:52:07 pm »
Cruzer edge 4GB  Fat32 SLOW formatted   00.02.05.SP2

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1517 on: April 15, 2014, 12:02:54 am »
Free electrons JW pulse generator calibrated at 201ps rise time for 20% to 80% fed thru 50 Ohm inline terminator into the 1052

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1518 on: April 17, 2014, 03:36:17 pm »
Hmm,strange rigol not got it.Anyway yer gizmos mod fw is most peps best bet,as the downgrade way is risky,but interestly after playing around with the scopes at work we have found that just by changing the model no you can mod your dso, dont need to change serial no.

Straycat,

Gizmos patch is precisely based on that assumption. The code, where the patch is done, is only testing the model number (in the end, it's something like testing x10x, x05x, x15x).

So, if you only mod your model number you should get the same result as gizmos patch. And, no need for FW patching anymore.

tv84

Yep i agree,.Myself and others i know only do the mod via usb .
« Last Edit: April 17, 2014, 03:39:11 pm by straycat »
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1519 on: April 18, 2014, 12:39:21 pm »
Cruzer edge 4GB  Fat32 SLOW formatted   00.02.05.SP2
Interesting that you mention the slow format. That's one avenue I haven't explored. I shall try later on tonight... fingers crossed!
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1520 on: April 18, 2014, 01:07:31 pm »
Mine did not work with the quick format. That is why I did the full (not quick) format.

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1521 on: April 19, 2014, 08:28:20 pm »
After much hacking, here's a custom firmware which sets the DS1052E to be a DS1102E. You wont notice any difference in serial or model number, but you now have the functionality of the DS1102E scope (2ns minimum time scale / 100Mhz). I've tested it and my 32Mhz clock I was looking at definitely has more resolution, so it is working.

CRC32: E62BB61B
MD5: 01d2d46d6c565c492b6f49725404f18b

http://synfin.net/public/DS1000EUpdate.rar

For anyone who is sceptical, do a file compare between the official 00.04.00.00.01 firmware and this one, and you'll see only one byte has changed.

As ever use at your own risk, blah blah. Works for my hardware 58 version DS1052E scope.


Edit:
May as well add some instructions. Copy the DS1000EUpdate.RGL file from the rar onto a memory stick, put it in the scope, and select OK when it asks if you want to update. It's that simple.

For your peace of mind, check the file's MD5 against the above number when it's on your memory stick to ensure it's correct before flashing. The scope doesn't bother with any data integrity checking, which is a bit of a shame, so if the file is corrupted at all, you will most likely brick the scope.

Hello:

Is this the latest mod at the link in the quote?. The post goes back to Feb 2013.
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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1522 on: April 20, 2014, 11:43:34 am »
Here we go, latest firmware update (00.04.01.00.02) with 100Mhz mod.

CRC32: 4EF27EF4
MD5: b3be022a8890c7448ed68a189c1071b1

https://anonfiles.com/file/be1d042d3757bd9073335a09554ccea3

And kindly also hosted more permanently here:

http://jahansen.com/rigol/DS1000EUpdate.00.04.01.00.02.zip

Instructions as before --

Copy the DS1000EUpdate.RGL file from the zip onto a memory stick, put it in the scope, and select OK when it asks if you want to update the firmware. It's that simple.

For your peace of mind, check the file's MD5 against the above number when it's on your memory stick to ensure it's correct before flashing and always do "eject" on the drive if using windows before pulling out the stick. The scope doesn't bother with any data integrity checking, which is a bit of a shame, so if the file is corrupted at all, you will most likely brick the scope.

Gizmo

This is the latest version.
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1523 on: April 20, 2014, 06:06:04 pm »
Just an FYI to the unwitting in our midst. RAR files have easily usable exploit capabilities. Including but not limited to remote capabilities. Be careful.
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1524 on: April 20, 2014, 08:37:45 pm »

Here we go, latest firmware update (00.04.01.00.02) with 100Mhz mod.



This is the latest version.

Thanks  :)
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