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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #950 on: December 02, 2011, 08:26:48 pm »
These results are consistent with a -3 dB point around 50 MHz, just what you would expect for a 50 MHz scope.
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #951 on: December 02, 2011, 10:17:24 pm »
The pics were just for my reference point prior to doing the hack (still not done).
i will be looking forward your next picture when you are done with the hack.
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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #952 on: December 09, 2011, 10:17:12 pm »
Is this "modification" available for, or applicable to, any of the 4 channel models? Thanks, amazing work!
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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #953 on: December 11, 2011, 01:36:13 pm »
Hi! My scope has a serial number DS1ENXXXXXX, what of the consequences for hack?
« Last Edit: December 11, 2011, 05:31:35 pm by Alexasha »
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #954 on: December 13, 2011, 05:56:22 pm »
Hi! My scope has a serial number DS1ENXXXXXX, what of the consequences for hack?
I am also interested in the answer to this. Has anyone performed the 'hack' on a scope with this serial number sequence?
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #955 on: December 13, 2011, 08:10:49 pm »
Hi! My scope has a serial number DS1ENXXXXXX, what of the consequences for hack?

im also interested in this information. just received my scope and its the DS1EN not ED, as well it has 00.02.06.00.01 hw 58.

can this thing be upgraded to 100mhz? i read someone posting they successfully downgraded 02.06 but can't seem to find that post anymore.

EDIT: followed the guide on page 1 but replaced the upgrade file with the 02.06.01 to 02.02.02 upgrade file located herehttps://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=553.msg70378#msg70378

scope is now a DS1102E / DS1EB SN :)
« Last Edit: December 13, 2011, 09:52:25 pm by iLLNESS »
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #956 on: December 17, 2011, 06:13:48 pm »
Yes, it works  :)
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #957 on: January 01, 2012, 12:56:06 am »
Where do I find the firmware to update it back to 2.06 (I can only find 2.04 on Rigol's site)?...Or do I need to if that is what came with the scope?  I remember reading the the firmware rollback does not actually change the firmware.
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #958 on: January 01, 2012, 01:12:39 am »
Where do I find the firmware to update it back to 2.06 (I can only find 2.04 on Rigol's site)?...Or do I need to if that is what came with the scope?  I remember reading the the firmware rollback does not actually change the firmware.

Are you trying to tell me you didn't read all of the previous 64 pages of posts in this thread? How slack is that.  :)

The post you are looking for is:

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=553.msg70381#msg70381

Just be aware that some people have had funny things happen to their scopes after upgrades, so be warned.
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #959 on: January 09, 2012, 12:18:12 pm »
This was steps, that I was done, to successful hack my Rigol DS1052E scope (HW58  ver2.06) to DS1102E.   :D

1. be sure that your USB key is working with Rigol scope (I use empty 1GB PQI FAT16).
2. be sure that your Rigol scope has proper USB connection with your PC (my OS is WinXP SP3) and there are installed all needed files, see details on page 1.
3. put put RGL update file from "Downgrade_2.06.00.01_to_2.02SP2" folder on USB key (I use file from page 61).
4. let Rigol do the update of the firmware (in fact this is downgrade).
5. remove the USB key, verify that the update was done successful eg. by measuring and playing around the scope, check the connection with PC.
6. ON/OFF your scope, if all seems OK, start rigupgr.exe (shafri's tool, from page 61) and patch.
7. ON/OFF your scope, check the model (you will se now DS1102E) on start.
8. put RGL update file from "Upgrade_to_2.04sp1" folder on empty USB key, do the update of firmware (I use file from page 61. and I use noproblem version 2.04), there are reports that it's no good to go on orig. version (2.06). 
9. do the scope calibration (steps in user manual) and enjoy your 100MHz scope.

My question: Does anybody try with success to do the hack on 58 HW, 2.06 and after downgrade and changing model going back on 2.06?
 
Be aware of fact, that you are doing the mentioned changes on your own risk.  :P
« Last Edit: January 09, 2012, 12:32:20 pm by kcutka »
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #960 on: January 19, 2012, 04:01:40 am »
Would someone be able to give me some quick pointers on where to get the 2.05 SP2 to 2.02 SP2 (v2.05.02.00 to v2.02.02.00) downgrade firmware?  I read A Hellene's post (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=553.msg42404#msg42404) and he wrote, "2.05 SP2 to 2.02 SP2 (v2.05.02.00 to v2.02.02.00) downgrade firmware attached!" but I don't see any file attached.

If someone has a copy of the file or can help clear my confusion, I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks,

Mark
 


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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #962 on: January 20, 2012, 06:23:21 pm »
I got the 1052e firmware 2.06.00.01, as did a 60 page and all OK. HAVE 100 MHz.
Thank you very much.
« Last Edit: January 20, 2012, 06:25:23 pm by user_bad »
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #963 on: January 31, 2012, 01:45:35 pm »
My Firmware version 00.02.05 SP2
Downgraded as per instructions
Changed to 100 MHz
Upgraded to 00.02.04
No problem
Proud owner of 100 MHz scope
Just need to find out how to use it
Can’t check a 100 MHz signal because don’t know how to
Any easy answer to this

Thanks for everybody’s effort in making this possible

Garry
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #964 on: January 31, 2012, 01:56:56 pm »
Another one joins the club, welcome.

Earlier in the thread some members were planning to build a replacement power supply, possibly even battery. Did anyone make progress with an alternative power supply for the scope?
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #965 on: January 31, 2012, 07:08:36 pm »
No, unfortunately I have no had the time. Maybe in a few months...
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #966 on: February 01, 2012, 03:11:03 am »
Thanks for the help; I successfully "upgraded" my unit to 100MHz.  Before the change, I was at 2.05 SP2 (HW 58) and didn't have any flicker issues (or any other issues I noticed after using the scope for a few weeks).  Now I left it at 02.04 SP1 as recommended, but I am curious about going back to 2.05 SP2 or upgrading to 2.06.  Darn, I wish Rigol had release notes for each version of firmware to know what's changed and if it's worth upgrading.

Has anyone had success going back to 2.05 SP2 or 2.06 (assuming you didn't have the flicker problem before the change)?

P.S. I noticed the DSP version went from the original 00.00 to 02.20.  This can also be seen in Polossatik's screen captures at the beginning of the thread.  Is there any significance to this?

Mark
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #967 on: February 01, 2012, 12:08:31 pm »
If you check the archives, there are reports of bricked scopes going back to the higher version firmware.

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/blog-specific/the-dark-side-of-the-rigol-hack-bricked-scope-how-to-fix-it/msg85354/#msg85354


Thanks for the help; I successfully "upgraded" my unit to 100MHz.  Before the change, I was at 2.05 SP2 (HW 58) and didn't have any flicker issues (or any other issues I noticed after using the scope for a few weeks).  Now I left it at 02.04 SP1 as recommended, but I am curious about going back to 2.05 SP2 or upgrading to 2.06.  Darn, I wish Rigol had release notes for each version of firmware to know what's changed and if it's worth upgrading.

Has anyone had success going back to 2.05 SP2 or 2.06 (assuming you didn't have the flicker problem before the change)?

P.S. I noticed the DSP version went from the original 00.00 to 02.20.  This can also be seen in Polossatik's screen captures at the beginning of the thread.  Is there any significance to this?

Mark
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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #968 on: February 03, 2012, 04:08:31 pm »
So, with this scope now on sale for $314 shipped (!), I'm thinking about finally pulling the trigger and getting one! Question, though. Will the 50MHz to 100MHz hack work with the version of the scope that Rigol is selling? (http://www.rigolna.com/products/digital-oscilloscopes/ds1000e/ds1052e/)

Thanks!
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #969 on: February 03, 2012, 04:52:48 pm »
I bought might from Rigol about a month ago and the software on the unit was 2.05 SP2 and the hardware was 58.  I hacked mine to 100MHz this week.  Even if it shipped with 2.06 software, you could still hack it.

But heck, even left at 50Mhz, it's a good scope at a good price.
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #970 on: February 03, 2012, 05:27:46 pm »
I'm more interested with the mixed rigol 1052D...
is it hackable to 1102D ???
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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #971 on: February 06, 2012, 11:38:16 pm »
I went ahead and bought the DS1052E! My first oscilloscope, so I'm pretty excited  :) Hopefully whatever firmware it has will support the 100 MHz upgrade..
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #972 on: February 08, 2012, 04:42:46 am »
I successfully converted the DS1052E version 2.06.01, that I purchased two days ago, to a DS1102E. I followed the instructions on page 1 and the process went flawlessly.  I was not sure what to do with Ultrascope, while I was connected to it Shafri's program wouldn't read the scope. I closed Ultrascope and ran rigupgr.exe again and everything worked. Great stuff!!!
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« Last Edit: February 12, 2012, 10:41:26 pm by prospector »
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #973 on: February 13, 2012, 09:48:57 pm »
Hi first post.
I successfully hacked my DS1052E 2.05.02 HW 58   to DS1102E 2.04 SP1.
I bought the scope last week from rigol-na.

thanks for the info and all the hard work ;D

 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #974 on: February 16, 2012, 03:44:45 am »
Successful upgrade from DS1052E 2.6.0.1 HV=58 to DS1102E 2.6.0.1 (calibration certificate says mid december 2011), following the standard procedure described here exactly (I used echo to usbtmc device on Linux).  Works like a charm.  :D

I didn't bother to try the 1152 version, mostly because it was unclear to me if there was any difference at all and which serial number letter to use (F or B).

Thank you!
« Last Edit: February 16, 2012, 01:02:38 pm by lambdafu »
 


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