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Re: eevBLAB 106 - ChatGPT AI Has Changed EVERYTHING
« Reply #175 on: February 01, 2023, 03:36:01 pm »
What if your teacher runs your essay through it and tells you it's an AI generated essay, but you say it isn't? What happens then?  :-//

Then the teacher calls the student in and asks them questions about their text.

It'll soon be obvious if they wrote it themselves or not.
 
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« Reply #176 on: February 01, 2023, 03:37:45 pm »
What if your teacher runs your essay through it and tells you it's an AI generated essay, but you say it isn't? What happens then?  :-//

Then the teacher calls the student in and asks them questions about their text.

It'll soon be obvious if they wrote it themselves or not.

What if they can answer the questions correctly because they read the essay?
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« Reply #177 on: February 01, 2023, 04:14:33 pm »
What if they can answer the questions correctly because they read the essay?
But you can also chat around the topic. If the essay involved a book, you can chat about other stuff in that book that was not a part of the essay.

But the accusation itself may be damaging, so they would need to be really sure or it would be the facial recognition for dark skinned people fiasco all over again.
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Re: eevBLAB 106 - ChatGPT AI Has Changed EVERYTHING
« Reply #178 on: February 01, 2023, 04:38:35 pm »
What if they can answer the questions correctly because they read the essay?

I was thinking questions along the lines of, "when you wrote XXX in the essay what did you mean, exactly?"

If they can fill you in on the details then they know the subject and they pass.

nb. It could also be the case that they really know the subject but couldn't be bothered to sit for hours and write it down.
 

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Re: eevBLAB 106 - ChatGPT AI Has Changed EVERYTHING
« Reply #179 on: February 01, 2023, 04:51:05 pm »
A qualified university teacher must be able to identify that easily within a few minutes during a face to face meeting/exam. Of course, there is always the question whether the teacher is qualified enough, or not..
 

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Re: eevBLAB 106 - ChatGPT AI Has Changed EVERYTHING
« Reply #180 on: February 01, 2023, 04:54:15 pm »
ChatGPT allows to optimize and shorten the research.
It is not only about handing in essays that are written by ChatGPT.
Think of it like before and after the internet.
To do research about a subject you had to go to the library and search the index for book titles. Then you had to find them and check if they had useful content.
That took quite some time. With the internet and online research, the time has been dramatically reduced. As a result you are either expected to do the same research in less time or with more content.

This research is again reduced by means of ChatGPT. Without knowing anything about a given subject, you can learn about it without any research in well written texts which are short and precise. Also, you get all key words to extend your learning.

This is revolutionary and should be endorsed.

Handing in simple essays about a subject is obsolete as of now.

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Re: eevBLAB 106 - ChatGPT AI Has Changed EVERYTHING
« Reply #181 on: February 01, 2023, 05:29:17 pm »
Using ChatGPT for "research"  is even worse than using Wikipedia as your only source. You will not learn anything you can trust to any degree.  It makes up stuff all the time, it is made to make up stuff.
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Re: eevBLAB 106 - ChatGPT AI Has Changed EVERYTHING
« Reply #182 on: February 01, 2023, 06:29:16 pm »
When I wrote research, I did not mean it in an academic meaning.
Imagine you know nothing about liquid crystals. It takes you literally 2 minutes to get from zero to a generic overview using ChatGPT.
It works for most subjects, at least the many I have tried so far.
Where ChatGPT fails completely is in math, despite the notification that they updated the algorithm for math problems.


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Re: eevBLAB 106 - ChatGPT AI Has Changed EVERYTHING
« Reply #183 on: February 01, 2023, 06:44:41 pm »
But that's what Wikipedia does already. If I know nothing about a topic, I just read the wiki article and get an overview that is written and verified to some extent by humans. It may not be entirely correct or miss  some details, but it sure will be better than a random text.

For initial research use whatever gets the job done, I guess, but I don't see ChatGPT as a clear leader here.
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Re: eevBLAB 106 - ChatGPT AI Has Changed EVERYTHING
« Reply #184 on: February 01, 2023, 07:01:19 pm »
ChatGPT was for example able to answer correctly the questions of my last exam. Like I literally write the question in Portuguese and got the correct answer in Portuguese.

This does not work on all type of questions, but it does on most.

I have used Wikipedia a lot in the past and I can guarantee that my extensive tests against ChatGPT resulted in ChatGPT clearly winning, when it comes to getting a quick and precise response to a question.

For cheating, ChatGPT, if just ignored by teachers, is the ultimate tool. It produces better texts than the average student. Schools and Universities will have to quickly adapt to this new reality.

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Re: eevBLAB 106 - ChatGPT AI Has Changed EVERYTHING
« Reply #185 on: February 01, 2023, 07:52:59 pm »
I have used Wikipedia a lot in the past and I can guarantee that my extensive tests against ChatGPT resulted in ChatGPT clearly winning, when it comes to getting a quick and precise response to a question.
That is because a machine can scan Wikipedia more efficiently than you   :D
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Re: eevBLAB 106 - ChatGPT AI Has Changed EVERYTHING
« Reply #186 on: February 01, 2023, 07:59:59 pm »
Is it possible these days to have an exam without any digital devices? No digital displays, just pen and paper. No smartwatch, no phone, no laptop.
 

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Re: eevBLAB 106 - ChatGPT AI Has Changed EVERYTHING
« Reply #187 on: February 01, 2023, 08:05:05 pm »
Imagine you know nothing about liquid crystals. It takes you literally 2 minutes to get from zero to a generic overview using ChatGPT.

Lets say you know nothing about liquid crystals but want to know if it's appropriate for your problem domain. You can do lit research and find out, or you can ask ChatGPT ... and then you still need to do lit research to know if its statements made any sense.

It can give you enough answers to factual questions about known facts to pass a humanities exam, but it can't really give you anything beyond that. It can't even multiply.
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Re: eevBLAB 106 - ChatGPT AI Has Changed EVERYTHING
« Reply #188 on: February 02, 2023, 04:25:18 pm »
Yippee I'm in on ChatGPT. Was talking with some local hams and some of them wanted to ask it questions. One guy didn't seem impressed, he thought he could break it by asking it "Ha ha well ask it this: how do I build a phasing harness for a 20 meter vertical array?"

It gave a very detailed seven point answer. He wasn't laughing after that, but I was.  :-DD
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Re: eevBLAB 106 - ChatGPT AI Has Changed EVERYTHING
« Reply #189 on: February 02, 2023, 05:24:23 pm »
You can easily break it still. Someone asked it to write a recipe for cooking cow eggs, and it responded with a chicken egg recipe just that it also used "cow eggs" in its response. But not in English. Same with "scuba diver eggs"  :-DD
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Re: eevBLAB 106 - ChatGPT AI Has Changed EVERYTHING
« Reply #190 on: February 02, 2023, 05:27:45 pm »
You can easily break it still. Someone asked it to write a recipe for cooking cow eggs, and it responded with a chicken egg recipe just that it also used "cow eggs" in its response. But not in English. Did the same with "diver eggs"  :-DD

Apparently they trained it better about that.

Just asked this "Can you use cow eggs in a recipe?"

Response -

"Cow eggs are not commonly used in cooking or consumed as food. Cows are mammals and do not lay eggs. The eggs that are commonly used in cooking and consumed as food come from chickens."
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Re: eevBLAB 106 - ChatGPT AI Has Changed EVERYTHING
« Reply #191 on: February 02, 2023, 05:36:32 pm »
I might make an account just to see if I can break it, in english. Tho this is also training it, which I'm not sure I want to do. But people are training it constantly so I might as well have some fun.
Does making a new account still asks for a phone number?
 

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Re: eevBLAB 106 - ChatGPT AI Has Changed EVERYTHING
« Reply #192 on: February 02, 2023, 05:42:11 pm »
https://www.engadget.com/microsoft-openai-investment-expansion-152302151.html

Automatic meeting notes for teams call. And that's just the beginning. Businesses are going to flock to these features.
 

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Re: eevBLAB 106 - ChatGPT AI Has Changed EVERYTHING
« Reply #193 on: February 02, 2023, 05:48:27 pm »
Hold on to your wallets! This tech is going to be weaponized against them.
 

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Re: eevBLAB 106 - ChatGPT AI Has Changed EVERYTHING
« Reply #194 on: February 02, 2023, 05:51:43 pm »
Does making a new account still asks for a phone number?

Yes.

It's giving red error text now  "An error occurred. If this issue persists please contact us through our help center at help.openai.com."

Probably too many users ...
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Re: eevBLAB 106 - ChatGPT AI Has Changed EVERYTHING
« Reply #195 on: February 03, 2023, 01:45:20 am »
Question to ChatGPT -

Me:

Can you describe the eevblog and how it is useful to electronics enthusiasts?


ChatGPT:

The EEVblog is a popular YouTube channel and blog created by electronics engineer and enthusiast David L. Jones. The channel focuses on providing in-depth, educational content for electronics enthusiasts and professionals, covering a wide range of topics such as electronics design, repair, and testing. The content is designed to be accessible to people with a wide range of skill levels, from beginner hobbyists to experienced engineers.

The EEVblog is particularly useful for electronics enthusiasts because it provides detailed and practical information on a wide range of topics in a clear and concise manner. David's explanations and demonstrations are easy to follow, and he covers a wide range of subjects, from basic electronics concepts to complex design and repair challenges. Additionally, the blog also includes a large community of enthusiasts who can offer support, advice, and share their own experiences and projects.

In summary, the EEVblog is a valuable resource for anyone interested in electronics, offering a wealth of information, tutorials, and discussion for enthusiasts at all levels.


Note: The answer was returned in I'd say less than 1/4 second.
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Re: eevBLAB 106 - ChatGPT AI Has Changed EVERYTHING
« Reply #196 on: February 03, 2023, 05:01:30 am »
oh-oh...the basilisk knows about Dave.
 
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Re: eevBLAB 106 - ChatGPT AI Has Changed EVERYTHING
« Reply #197 on: February 03, 2023, 05:11:05 am »
You can easily break it still. Someone asked it to write a recipe for cooking cow eggs, and it responded with a chicken egg recipe just that it also used "cow eggs" in its response. But not in English. Did the same with "diver eggs"  :-DD

Apparently they trained it better about that.

Just asked this "Can you use cow eggs in a recipe?"

Response -

"Cow eggs are not commonly used in cooking or consumed as food. Cows are mammals and do not lay eggs. The eggs that are commonly used in cooking and consumed as food come from chickens."

"Design a left-handed screwdriver"

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Re: eevBLAB 106 - ChatGPT AI Has Changed EVERYTHING
« Reply #198 on: February 03, 2023, 05:26:44 am »
Apparently they trained it better about that.

More likely they are adding on an expert system as they go so trip questions don't keep tripping it up.
 

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Re: eevBLAB 106 - ChatGPT AI Has Changed EVERYTHING
« Reply #199 on: February 03, 2023, 07:41:25 am »
Question to ChatGPT -

Me:

Can you describe the eevblog and how it is useful to electronics enthusiasts?


ChatGPT:

The EEVblog is a popular YouTube channel and blog created by electronics engineer and enthusiast David L. Jones. The channel focuses on providing in-depth, educational content for electronics enthusiasts and professionals, covering a wide range of topics such as electronics design, repair, and testing. The content is designed to be accessible to people with a wide range of skill levels, from beginner hobbyists to experienced engineers.

The EEVblog is particularly useful for electronics enthusiasts because it provides detailed and practical information on a wide range of topics in a clear and concise manner. David's explanations and demonstrations are easy to follow, and he covers a wide range of subjects, from basic electronics concepts to complex design and repair challenges. Additionally, the blog also includes a large community of enthusiasts who can offer support, advice, and share their own experiences and projects.

In summary, the EEVblog is a valuable resource for anyone interested in electronics, offering a wealth of information, tutorials, and discussion for enthusiasts at all levels.


Note: The answer was returned in I'd say less than 1/4 second.

I typed a single word into google and got this:


Links to the site, links to the forums... far more useful.

 


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