eevBLAB 133 - YouTube Just Self Destructed (AI Shorts)

[EEVblog]

YouTube have just released new AI video Shorts features built into the Youtube app itself. Let's create an AI slop Short in minutes using Veo 3 and see what fresh new hell you're in for on Youtube.
If you thought AI slop was already bad enough on Youtube, it's just leveled up.

[wilfred]

Fortunately, I hope, the Ublock Origin shorts filter I found will still hide these shorts from me as well.

But I still like this short from Marty-T in NZ. It never gets old.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/anuBLytpAHI

[Ranayna]

I'm using Youtube only in a browser. And not in a chrome related one, but Firefox. But i am logged in.
Shorts are so far down on my feed on youtube.com, that i rarely ever see them at all. I rarely scroll down that far, only when i'm really bored.

Even at work, where i use YT for background music, where i am using a chrome based browser and am not logged in, shorts are so far down they might just as well not exist.
It may also be relevant to add that i am in the EU, in Germany, to be precise.

So, at least on the desktop, there doesn't seem to be much emphasis or push for Shorts. I also imagine that AI flaws will be way more obvious on larger screens, maybe thats a reason?

[tszaboo]

We are in the feedback loop of this AI slop. They are actively learning what's the best way to manipulate us. And it's not just to buy a certain brand washing machine.

[tggzzz]

I'm confused...

Is that short video of a monkey a documentary or (dystopian) fiction?




 

[EEVblog]

I'm confused...
Is that short video of a monkey a documentary or (dystopian) fiction?

[themadhippy]

Not convinced,i recon daves made the whole utube generated shorts thing  up,in an attempt  to cover up the true story, that  investigative journalist had gained access to the eevblog multimeter factory,secretly filmed the staff at work and released it on the net

[Peabody]

Fortunately, I hope, the Ublock Origin shorts filter I found will still hide these shorts from me as well.

Does that filter work on Firefox?  Care to share a link to it?  Thanks.

[2nOrderEDO]

Fortunately, I hope, the Ublock Origin shorts filter I found will still hide these shorts from me as well.

Does that filter work on Firefox?  Care to share a link to it?  Thanks.

https://github.com/gijsdev/ublock-hide-yt-shorts

[Nominal Animal]

Is that short video of a monkey a documentary or (dystopian) fiction?

I'm not a monkey, I'm a number!

6?

[Peabody]

Thanks.  Yes, that works just fine.  No more shorts.

[Dr Bob]

Youtube is missing the mark with this. It could be an excellent tool for creators to generate scenes that will be incorporated into a larger piece of work rather than just generating slop. There are sources for stock footage so if you want an aerial flyby of a wind turbine, you can license a copy for a tiny sum of money, but you have to find the website that sells that sort of thing and then comb through loads and loads of clips to find what you are looking for. OR, you can fiddle a text prompt and have something generated for you rather faster than the search. A real bummer for people that create stock footage whose work was likely scraped to train one of these AI engines, but it's not that great of a business anyway for a photographer/videographer.

I find shorts to be utterly useless and wish there was a button to keep them from showing up on a search. AI slop shorts are going to make it nigh on impossible to find anything relevant to what I need.

That Ian Malcolm scene from Jurassic park is one of my all time favs. Jeff nailed it and the writing was so spot on. I do believe that to make progress there is a need to stand on the shoulders of giants most of the time.

The YT creator revolt needs to start but it can't go to pay-walled services and membership requirements.

I saw Big Clive's comment and he's another amazing content creator. I'm going to drop him a line to see if he will share a list of his favorite YT channels as I'm sure I'd find many of them to my liking as well. Doing that sort of thing may be the only way for creators to be found. They need to link to their favs who then have links to their favs, etc.

[tggzzz]

I saw Big Clive's comment and he's another amazing content creator. I'm going to drop him a line to see if he will share a list of his favorite YT channels as I'm sure I'd find many of them to my liking as well. Doing that sort of thing may be the only way for creators to be found. They need to link to their favs who then have links to their favs, etc.

Anybody else remember "webrings"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webring

[Deodand2014]

The rumour going around is that Alphabet, the company that owns both Google and YouTube wants to replace all creators on YouTube with an AI prompt similar to the one covered in this video.

[temperance]

That cheeky looking monkey short, judging from the stack of test equipment in the back, has been filmed in the Signal Path lab.

[tggzzz]

The rumour going around is that Alphabet, the company that owns both Google and YouTube wants to replace all creators on YouTube with an AI prompt similar to the one covered in this video.

The "ape character" would be entirely valid for another of Alphabet's ambitions: replace software engineers with vibe coders.

[jonovid]

 
IMO youtube has become less intellectual & more spammy recently.
youtube went from standard 4:3 aspect ratio to widescreen then to pushing shorts, vertical video now its wall to wall AI thumbnail spam.
try playing a vertical shorts video on a widescreen TV. was a time when youtube would automatically detect a phone vs a PC & switch aspect settings.
try finding something in that mess when notifications no longer working properly. so I stay logged-out most of the time.
ripping & watching offline avoiding most of the ads, but still requiring one to fast-forward embedded video ads.
in spite of all of this, youtube still offers the best public liability of free video resources. if you can step over all the spam.
like and subscribe? I know way most of us do not, because I am one of then that does not most of the time.

[John B]

Youtube is very far from it's roots now, and will only continue to drift further. I watch content creators on odyssey or rumble where possible, but even some of the politically active creators who put their content there to avoid censorship have stopped mirroring there as of late.

Youtube as a company is also very clear that it doesn't care what you want. Take for example shorts and playables - no matter how often you click the hide button on the home feed, it will always bring them back almost straight away.

AI slop is the next frontier that is basically already upon us. The fact is AI slop will be cheaper and easier to deal with than creators on the platform.

Worse still is how insidious AI slop is. There are videos that almost appear natural, but then after listening to the narration for a while, I click off them. AI generated narration has a particularly unnatural form and structure, and seems designed to pad out an exact amount of time.

[Dr Bob]

I couldn't remember the name for "webrings", but it's time again to have them.

[Dr Bob]

That cheeky looking monkey short, judging from the stack of test equipment in the back, has been filmed in the Signal Path lab.

There's no way AI is going to come up with the same thing Dave or Clive or Louis or Common Sense Skeptic come up with. It takes a Mr Carlson or Mend it Mark to walk through an electronic repair.

[Bud]

So in the end the monkey did not measure anything, the multimeter readings did not change from all zeros. 

[NE666]

So in the end the monkey did not measure anything, the multimeter readings did not change from all zeros. 

Sure. But they work for peanuts compared to the previous domestic workforce, so the junior VP who setup the offshoring got a fat bonus that year. And the customer satisfaction/returns/support incident metrics can be AI 'massaged' too before they're shown to the board.

[RJSV]

   Weird thing is,  I still like Dave's videos,  don't misunderstand,  but I just wanted to turn the (video on yt AI shorts) OFF,  but felt obligated for education purposes, to watch the whole video !
It's the topic, that's annoying, (not Dave).   I couldn't even tolerate a bad review of the new AI 'slop'.
   What a world, what a world.     (Maybe they'll improve, after criticism ?)

[jonovid]

it would help if the AI was given one of Dave's real world videos as a template. the lab foreground & background with Dave in the right pose.
in so setting the scene so the AI only need to substitute Dave for the monkey in the recreated video . the next step is posing the monkey in the time line. telling the AI ,setting out the head & eye movements of the CGI monkey.  like the movie production process. the AI needs a better video editor one that gives more control to the end user, you the movie director.
AI needs to be beaten into submission given 24hrs to get it acceptable. this is Ok Mr AI but that is not , now let's try again. take two.

[EEVblog]

I couldn't remember the name for "webrings", but it's time again to have them.

A bunch of us eYoutubers decided to use the hashtag #ElectronicsCreators
and you can find us here:
https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/electronicscreators

Doesn't stop anyone from using it, but it's the best there is.