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EEVblog => EEVblog Specific => Topic started by: EEVblog on October 29, 2019, 03:28:01 am

Title: eevBLAB #67 - Shilling NordVPN & Youtube Sponsorships
Post by: EEVblog on October 29, 2019, 03:28:01 am
NordVPN got hacked, and it's a tad embarrassing for all the Youtubers who promoted and shilled for them for money, but Dave can't blame them.
Let's talk about Youtube video sponsorships, how much money Youtubers make on these deals, advertising integration, and a look at some of the deals Dave gets and what these companies want in return.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiN9d6NnTDA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiN9d6NnTDA)
Title: Re: eevBLAB #67 - Shilling NordVPN & Youtube Sponsorships
Post by: rs20 on October 29, 2019, 03:32:10 am
Great vid, I highly recommend this video too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVDQEoe6ZWY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVDQEoe6ZWY)
Title: Re: eevBLAB #67 - Shilling NordVPN & Youtube Sponsorships
Post by: johnlsenchak on October 29, 2019, 03:37:44 am


More  power to you Dave for  not being a   shill to the big  corporations.  You're    such a rebel !    8)
Title: Re: eevBLAB #67 - Shilling NordVPN & Youtube Sponsorships
Post by: SeanB on October 29, 2019, 05:19:04 am
Easy to tell Dave when being a shill, and the only one he does a shill for is....... David L Jones ;) , as his biggest asset is himself, and being able to talk about whatever he chooses with very little bias.

Straightforward, tells it like it happens, and a true reporter, thank you Dave for this.
Title: Re: eevBLAB #67 - Shilling NordVPN & Youtube Sponsorships
Post by: Ed.Kloonk on October 29, 2019, 05:39:28 am
Easy to tell Dave when being a shill, and the only one he does a shill for is....... David L Jones ;) , as his biggest asset is himself, and being able to talk about whatever he chooses with very little bias.

Straightforward, tells it like it happens, and a true reporter, thank you Dave for this.

 :-+

What I wanted to say is how much I apprentice the breath of fresh air when watching a Dave video along with a bunch of other baked-in promo videos elsewhere.

Whilst I can understand y/t'ers are tempted by extra income, the problem for a content consumer is a paid product promo will have no cons just all pros.

Free content with paid ads means you are the product.

Title: Re: eevBLAB #67 - Shilling NordVPN & Youtube Sponsorships
Post by: Nominal Animal on October 29, 2019, 06:49:19 am
I was zero surprised to find out the breach happened in a Finnish hosting facility.

In Finland, all universities and vocational schools push Windows with a zeal only matched by paid shills, and every organization having their own servers has their management push for moving to cloud services.  The result is that anyone who knows how to maintain anything else than Windows machines, emigrate.
In Finland, if you do not use Windows, you have a big uphill climb ahead of you.

It is hilarious, if you consider where Linux started at.
Title: Re: eevBLAB #67 - Shilling NordVPN & Youtube Sponsorships
Post by: Deodand2014 on October 29, 2019, 11:06:00 am
A perfect example of 'shilling' on of all things a cooking channel. The presentation opens with an advert for Squarespace and features a second advert just before the completed recipe is presented.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ5AcbjFlN0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ5AcbjFlN0)
Title: Re: eevBLAB #67 - Shilling NordVPN & Youtube Sponsorships
Post by: Marco on October 29, 2019, 11:08:53 am
Most people who use VPNs aren't dissidents or journalists trying to avoid TPTB.

If you're just circumventing country restrictions and three strikes for using torrents then the hack is kinda irrelevant.
Title: Re: eevBLAB #67 - Shilling NordVPN & Youtube Sponsorships
Post by: Ed.Kloonk on October 29, 2019, 11:54:29 am
This guy. Suggests that you have halitosis. Sells you mouth wash.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULkzqMd079w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULkzqMd079w)
Title: Re: eevBLAB #67 - Shilling NordVPN & Youtube Sponsorships
Post by: EEVblog on October 29, 2019, 12:55:44 pm
This guy. Suggests that you have halitosis. Sells you mouth wash.

This infomercial guy has got 2.4M subs?  :-//
Title: Re: eevBLAB #67 - Shilling NordVPN & Youtube Sponsorships
Post by: Bud on October 29, 2019, 01:16:40 pm
Likely from a subs factory.
Title: Re: eevBLAB #67 - Shilling NordVPN & Youtube Sponsorships
Post by: Ed.Kloonk on October 29, 2019, 01:52:34 pm
This guy. Suggests that you have halitosis. Sells you mouth wash.

This infomercial guy has got 2.4M subs?  :-//
Likely from a subs factory.

2.4M blokes would have better luck with chicks if only they had the right multi meter.
Title: Re: eevBLAB #67 - Shilling NordVPN & Youtube Sponsorships
Post by: Kilrah on October 29, 2019, 05:51:56 pm
This is useful: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/sponsorblock-for-youtube/mnjggcdmjocbbbhaepdhchncahnbgone?hl=en
Title: Re: eevBLAB #67 - Shilling NordVPN & Youtube Sponsorships
Post by: Kilrah on October 29, 2019, 06:11:21 pm
One of the channels I follow who normally does very good maker tips and tricks videos and very honest 3D printer reviews has recently done what basically was a full paid ad video for a laptop manufacturer with only has a very dubious connection with the channel, with obviously zero personal impressions but just the company's BS talking points as he was probably requried to... and that has not ended well. Nearly 1:1 like/dislike ratio, almost unanimously negative comments destroying both his integrity and the sponsoring company (which makes you strongly think the thumbs up are paid ones...) and 1/4th the usual number of views.

I hope he was in need and got a nice high 5-figure sum for such a deviation from his core thing, but I'm afraid he did that for a couple thousand bucks.
Title: Re: eevBLAB #67 - Shilling NordVPN & Youtube Sponsorships
Post by: SL4P on October 29, 2019, 08:39:04 pm
Im curious about these ‘public’ VPNs, because they are only as secure as the endpoint you connect to...

hence, if I setup a VPN company, and sell pipes to everyone, I can snoop the midpoint, and give it to anyone that pays me for it.  (Illegal I know, but who’s telling?)
The ONLY secure VPN is when you control *both* endpoints of the connection.

I’d never use any of the public ‘advertised’ tunnels, because that’s just paying someone to slow down your connection, while doing very little to protect your privacy !
Title: Re: eevBLAB #67 - Shilling NordVPN & Youtube Sponsorships
Post by: thm_w on October 29, 2019, 08:45:00 pm
One of the channels I follow who normally does very good maker tips and tricks videos and very honest 3D printer reviews has recently done what basically was a full paid ad video for a laptop manufacturer with only has a very dubious connection with the channel, with obviously zero personal impressions but just the company's BS talking points as he was probably requried to... and that has not ended well. Nearly 1:1 like/dislike ratio, almost unanimously negative comments destroying both his integrity and the sponsoring company (which makes you strongly think the thumbs up are paid ones...) and 1/4th the usual number of views.

I hope he was in need and got a nice high 5-figure sum for such a deviation from his core thing, but I'm afraid he did that for a couple thousand bucks.

Yeah this is pure shilling  and what is off-putting to me. Having a baked in ad is not a huge deal, if done reasonably ("this video is sponsored by abc who does xyz"), voltlog is a decent example of this. Its when the company feeds you copy to read, and implies you feel about the product a certain way, that just feels dirty.

I wonder if Youtube will take some action against these ads or compete with them, as its circumventing their business, they don't get to capture a portion of that ad revenue. A similar thing happened with twitch and they integrated the same functionality so they'd be able to take a cut (~50%).
Title: Re: eevBLAB #67 - Shilling NordVPN & Youtube Sponsorships
Post by: Kilrah on October 29, 2019, 08:49:32 pm
I wonder if Youtube will take some action against these ads or compete with them, as its circumventing their business, they don't get to capture a portion of that ad revenue. A similar thing happened with twitch and they integrated the same functionality so they'd be able to take a cut (~50%).
I don't think they could do that, it would cause a ridiculously massive outrage. Most of the channels actually didn't start doing that kind of thing until Youtube drastically reduced creators' cut. So they really asked for it themselves.
Title: Re: eevBLAB #67 - Shilling NordVPN & Youtube Sponsorships
Post by: SL4P on October 29, 2019, 09:03:12 pm
blokes would have better luck with chicks if only they had the right multi meter.
I think you need a ‘deferential’ probe to score with the ladies.
Title: Re: eevBLAB #67 - Shilling NordVPN & Youtube Sponsorships
Post by: stevengpreston on October 30, 2019, 03:02:11 am
This is the screen YouTube gave me.  Who will I watch?   
Title: Re: eevBLAB #67 - Shilling NordVPN & Youtube Sponsorships
Post by: Ed.Kloonk on October 30, 2019, 05:18:02 am
This is the screen YouTube gave me.  Who will I watch?

Don't buy the Jeep.