eevBLAB 89 Matt Koval removing negative feedback counter

[MrMobodies]

I think this change is going to affect me. If I can't see any reference that a video might be misleading and full of crap and is on top of the list by the good ratings then the platform is going to useless to me. I will never use or join video or shopping site with no negative feedback as a matter of principle as I wouldn't trust it. I might go into such a video site if I am looking for something specific though that I know is going to be good now and again but I haven't noticed any site with no dislikes as of yet.

Well if that happens I might be wanting to leave Youtube Premium.

It seems I can't even post my own opinion in that subsection:

Matt Kova
2:52 You are going to get use to it pretty quickly 

Opinions and assumptions and sounds to me like he's being very condescending like you talking down to a child treating them in a stupid manner (like they are somewhat "thick") trying to get them to do something they don't want to do.

I will not get use to have details hidden away from me and I find that insulting.

Matt Kova
and keep in mind other platforms don't even have a Dislike button

What other platform? Or did he think of that one out of thin air?

Well here is my opinion he sounds like a liar to me and maybe more to the story. I have never seen a video platform before with only positive feedback please but correct me if you think I am wrong. I have seen one review site (review.io?) somewhere where I 'd thought it was missing the negative feedback but it was actually in different place. Crossed a few lines out.  I am sorry I think I have over reacted there.

Update to YouTube's dislike count
202,752 views 10/11/21
YouTube Creators
15k thumbs down and 6.3k thumbs up.

Now that must say something.

I think one solution they could try is to only allow the viewer to leave any kind of rating after watching a duration or a percent of it and someone mentioned in EEVBLOG IRC "Watcher" to put a cap in place whether that'd be on the viewers or the content.

See the disapproval mounting on that video by the 1000's every couple of hours or so:

11/11/21  20:57  Views:   552135   Comments:   40096  UP: 8.5k   DOWN:   33k  Ratio: 1:3
12/11/21  23:46  Views:   964635   Comments:   68049  UP:  10k   DOWN:   61k  Ratio: 1:6.1
13/11/21  22:22  Views: 1210553   Comments:   81138  UP:  12k   DOWN:   85k  Ratio: 1:7.08
14/11/21  23:44  Views: 1377644   Comments:   86167  UP:  13k   DOWN: 110k  Ratio: 1:8.46
15/11/21  22:14  Views: 1472492   Comments:   91799  UP:  13k   DOWN: 132k  Ratio: 1:10.15
16/11/21  20:46  Views: 1538537   Comments:   95834  UP:  14k   DOWN: 152k  Ratio: 1:10.857
17/11/21  01:48  Views: 1562046   Comments:   97034  UP:  14k   DOWN: 157k  Ratio: 1:11.2  out ratioed by 10+
18/11/21  01:20  Views: 1673418   Comments: 101523  UP:  15k   DOWN: 180k  Ratio: 1:12
Using a browser profile: with older cache that shows the stats
19/11/21  00:51  Views: 1778663   Comments: 109001   UP: 15k   DOWN: 201K  Ratio  13:8.75
20/11/21  20:49  Views: 1939134  Comments: 101139   UP: 16k  DOWN: 240K  Ratio 1:15
21/11/21  00:27  Views: 1948765  Comments: 117564   UP: 16k  DOWN: 243K  Ratio 1:15.187

Only showing one stat per day to keep the post smaller.

[MrMobodies]

Unsolved Mystery: The USS Pompano Submarine #TeamSeas

SC4608 B 2 hours ago
It's really a shame that YouTube used you as a "nice guy" for their agenda. I'm sorry Matt, I sincerely hope the paycheck they gave you will be worth it when you step back and really think about what they are doing. They aren't doing this for the "small channels" and "safety" and it's apparent from the reaction from across the platform that the majority of users know that.

VIRUSSS1986 1 hour ago
Why feel sorry for a representative of the oldest profession?

Matt Koval 53 minutes ago
I get how it can seem that way, but I actually volunteered to communicate it to you guys as a part of my job, because I felt that hiding the counter would be helpful (I know, not the most popular opinion). Otherwise it would have just been a faceless blog post announcing it - which I dunno, maybe you'd prefer. But creators have hated that sort of communication in the past.

So if he "feels" something he can pretty much do what he likes with Youtube because he thinks he is somewhat self entitled to do so apart of his job to make assumptions for everybody and how they are going to feel afterwards.

Removed my comment in response to one he replied to.


I had a "feeling" this might happen.

Click any rating and no counters on that particular video:


His other videos had the counters on the feedback:

Unsolved Mystery: The USS Pompano Submarine #TeamSeas
29 Oct 2021 5,859 views
Thumbs up or down Hidden

my gray hair. 😭👨🏻‍🦳 #shorts
11 Sept 2021 3,777 views
UP 121 DOWN 78

The SECRET to Michael Phelps' SPEED?? #Shorts #olympics #swimming
5 Aug 2021  2,546 views
UP 174 DOWN 39

rare old outtakes from The Fuplers! 😂
17 Jul 2021 1,990 views
UP 211 DOWN 44

the Fuplers REVEALED #shorts
2 Jul 2021 1,961 views
UP: 153 DOWN: 21

Seat Belt Safety Has Gone Too Far
30 Mar 2019 3,924 views
UP 262 DOWN 47

How to Make a Time Machine - with Video
9,578 views12 Jan 2019
UP 577 DOWN 26

Shame I had nothing against the man until he pulled this off.
His content doesn't appeal me not that's it bad to me but the feedback seemed consistent I can't see any abuse or such on his channel or videos.

I am waiting for the counters to be removed and Premium is finished for me and I'll look at paying more attention to the other video sharing platforms.

[Deodand2014]

I've just been on YouTube and the changeover seems to have taken place, this is what you get when companies are run by people who only ask those who agree with them for comment.

[MrMobodies]

You know this is so WRONG!
The statistics SPEAK for themselves. I still see it and this is now:

He is ignoring the statistics that 3/4 who voted are not happy with this change.

41,000 viewers can't be wrong on this.

Maybe someone could start a campaign on say Change.org to vote out this arrogant know it all "creator" (possibly won't happen anyway) who sounds to me like he is so better than everyone else that he knows the viewers better than they know themselves from everything he has said so far.

Out of touch with viewers and I am not sure if he was bribed or "lobbied" into it which that I have been reading.

On his profile there I don't see any channels, playlists or much to indicate that he does.
https://www.youtube.com/c/MattKoval/channels


12/10/21 05:35
Thumbs UP: 9.4K DOWN: 42K

[SparkyFX]

Those counters are a bad compromise to begin with, because they are a substitute for a well thought through reply/comment, everything that needs to be reported is outside this scope anyway (minus the people that abuse the report function).

Of course i do give a quick thumbs up if i like the content to somehow show that i would like to see more of that, otoh i am sure creators would prefer to read an actual comment that expresses it more than that, but in both cases there is probably nothing to argue. If i however disagree with the content or just don't like the horrible presentation or a single issue out of all those talked about don't seem to line up with me, i would be required to write a comment to explain what it is to be fair and that's where that dilemma starts, i would need to take effort for something i don't like, criticize someone publicly although they put hours of work into it or it is just a result of my own misunderstanding. The dislike button seems to solve these problems, but just increases confusion.

IMHO trying to extrapolate specific information out of those counters is a mistake most of the time. E.g. a video with factual errors but high viewership approval would have a misleading counter as would a video stating truths but with a high disapproval rate because people do not like the facts presented or think the video should not be in their feed. Wouldn't be a problem if there was no such counter and people would actually need to write a comment and someone would read them. (I'm naive  )

But youtube is an attention economy, not all devices are suitable to do more than a like or dislike (i.e. TV) and any metric was put there for advertisers and creators to have something to argue about or somehow estimate a value from it. Which would work until it is weaponized, faked or misjudged; and it is always just a question of time if something is weaponized, faked or misjudged. Even comments...

If youtube decides to remove it i don't see a big harm to the community, the problematic judgment derived from it was probably ill-fated anyway. Because people that correctly understand the meaning of their approval rating will eventually "self-correct" and produce upcoming videos in a way that works for them - or they don't give a sh*t if it works for them too, but hiding the counter will not attract more viewers.

[MrMobodies]

I am for reforming the feedback system without hiding the counters from the customer.

10/12/2021 15:32 UP: 10K    DOWN: 52K


Maybe auto vote from the first comment first (so thumbs up or down on the first comment of a viewer would reflect on the counter) and in a way the content creator can trace and see the first comments with the votes as to why they got a thumbs up or down. If it is abuse or just silliness (non rational explanation) then they could contest to get removed.

12/11/21 20:23  UP: 10K DOWN: 57K

[thm_w]

As someone pointed out in the comments, if they actually put the like/dislike rating on the video preview photos, of course this would influence whether people click to watch the video or not.
It could be converted to a percent rating, eg 50/50 likes dislikes is 50% rating.

Those counters are a bad compromise to begin with, because they are a substitute for a well thought through reply/comment, everything that needs to be reported is outside this scope anyway (minus the people that abuse the report function).

Sorry no one is reading hundreds or thousands of comments to get an idea what people think of a video.
That's like saying IMDB movie ratings are a bad compromise.

[MrMobodies]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-59264070

YouTube removing dislike 'discourages trolls' but 'unhelpful for users'
BBC Newsbeat 5pm

Kenzo says it can be "daunting" to post a video on YouTube and not know how it's going to be received
YouTube users will no longer see how many dislikes a video has got.

The platform says it's made the change to protect users from "dislike bombing" and to reduce "stress and embarrassment" for creators. Dislike bombing is when there is a coordinated move for people to dislike a video to put off potential viewers. Some content creators have told Radio 1 Newsbeat the move is "not very helpful", but others say it might help their mental health. The change hasn't been rolled out fully yet - and YouTube's announcement of the move has had 53,000 dislikes so far. Content creators will still be able to see the total dislikes for their own videos. 'Discouraging trolls' "It will discourage a lot of trolling and a lot of mean-spirited people on the internet that want to try to put down other people's creative work," says rapper Kenzo Jae.

The 18-year-old uni student, from Bradford, promotes his music on YouTube and only has about 200 subscribers. It's small-scale content creators like Kenzo that YouTube says will be most protected by its decision to hide dislike totals. Kenzo says he can feel "apprehension" about what the reception to his videos might be, and that removing the dislike totals might help creators' mental health.

Then disable the ratings?

"You might put your heart and soul into something and then it doesn't come out the way you want it to with likes or dislikes - that can be disheartening," he says.

"On my Instagram account I've taken all likes off and it's really helped with not caring about the amount of people liking it."

YouTube tested out hiding the dislike total from users earlier this year and says it's been shown to reduce co-ordinated attacks by online trolls who work together to rack up huge dislike tallies on people's content. Some people can still see the dislike totals but YouTube is gradually rolling out the new feature, so that won't last much longer. 'Dislikes stop clickbait' Many users have said they'll miss the dislike totals. There are loads of comments saying "RIP dislikes" on one of YouTube's most-disliked videos ever, a clip by YouTube star PewDiePie that got 5.6m dislikes after he called on fans to dislike it. Chris Burton says he'll miss the totals as they "can be really helpful" for users to avoid clickbait. "You want to immediately know how good the video is, before you watch it," the 27-year-old from Hampshire says. "A lot of the time, you can't trust the title or thumbnail. If you see a tutorial video and it's got almost all dislikes, you know it's not going to help you." Chris runs the channel Half-Asleep Chris where he takes part in positive projects like litter picking and making giant Lego tracks.

He says he "struggles to see" how YouTube's decision protects him from stress, because he'll still be able to see the total as a creator. Chris says seeing the tally of dislikes on other people's videos helps him decide whether to watch them or not Chris says it "certainly gets rid of the bullying aspect" of "dislike bombing", but adds: "I don't think that's the way 99% of people use the dislike button."

He says he's happy with the tools YouTube already provides to stop online bullies.

"It already auto-blocks a lot of hateful comments which is fantastic. It holds them for review, and they don't go live unless I manually click them." As well as hiding some or all comments, creators have pointed out a feature already exists to hide likes and dislikes, which YouTubers can activate if they want to.

Some people have questioned whether or not YouTube made the move because the most-disliked video ever on the platform happens to be one of their own. YouTube Rewind 2018 has over 19 million dislikes, compared with three million likes. YouTube says this isn't why the change has been made.

For me, I wouldn't say it is unhelpful, I myself find it already unhelpful trying to search for stuff even with the Premium membership, I have to adjust the search filter otherwise for one example I see suggestions to paid "virtually owned" movies in which I'd want the physical copy. I think it'll be more like a hindrance.

[tszaboo]

I didn't wanted to discuss this in the comment section, because it is not safe for your account. Dave you should consider your income sources before talking ill from Youtube. It is not right, but they can make your channel disappear if they think.
This is happening because THE MESSAGE is now more important than making profit. Leftist woke SJW have completely overtaken Hollywood and Big tech. I honestly don't care about the politics behind it. I hate everyone who tries to tell me what I have to think. I hated when it was Moscow telling how to think, I hated when it was my own country's politicians telling me, and I hate it when its the internet turning against the people.
And they censor, delete, ban everyone who doesn't agree with them. And when they release crap like the Ghostbusters 2016, and get 1 Million dislikes on the trailer video: They know that it is hurting the box office. IMDB removed the review section, I would say it is just a question of time before they delete the ratings.
Or youtube taking away the income source of creators because they are using words. Damn word policing, like its 1984.
Democracy, free speech, and the like was nice while it lasted. 30 years or so for me.

[bill_c]

I read some of the favorable comments on that video, most were like" I've been waiting so long for something like this", and check that persons profile, no videos and a member for less than a week.

[Bud]

Number of likes or dislikes on a video have never ever been to me a decisive factor to watch or not to watch it. Frankly, i do not see what is this fuzz about. Anyone with a brain does not need that external 'help' . Just my opinion. For creators to use it as feedback - i agree it is useful. But YT does not take it from them. So, meh. 

[MrMobodies]

I see someone has already started a campaign on change.org to restore the negative counters:

https://www.change.org/p/google-inc-bring-back-the-youtube-dislike-count/c

I'd thought I'd start one up of my own:
https://www.change.org/p/youtube-vote-out-matt-koval-from-youtube-creators-group?utm_content

[SparkyFX]

Sorry no one is reading hundreds or thousands of comments to get an idea what people think of a video.

Sure, wont happen, but it's the only way to reduce ambiguity.

That's like saying IMDB movie ratings are a bad compromise.

Because they are a bad compromise - in a context in which you are catered videos based on the platforms algorithm. Like sending moviegoers that want to see action to a drama movie. Would the rating reflect something significant in that case?

[SparkyFX]

IMDB removed the review section, I would say it is just a question of time before they delete the ratings.

No, many of these companies run into the problems their approach for user generated content has caused (and enabled their rise as well). Basically it is systemic lack of content moderation or understanding that it means there are paid full time jobs required and when a broader public discovers it, it is a question of time until serious harm is caused here or there. Then the backlash from that causes the radical changes or just the prediction that it will happen at some time.

I hope it is obvious why content needs to be moderated. The bad stuff does not go away by ignoring it or believing that it is only happening somewhere else.

I don't see where competitors solve this just by being less popular, but trying to gain popularity basically the same way?!

The terms of service are binding to everyone and cost you nothing, but when it comes to damages or loss of income it means there is one contract per user which can sue in some form and a certain percentage will sue, giving them the same legal problems that lead to the same decisions those competitors now claim to not take.

[MrMobodies]

I wonder if I made mistake somewhere I did I check actual screenshots.

13/11/21 22:22 Views: 1210553 Comments: 81138  UP: 12k DOWN: 85k   1:7.08
Removing comments are they or did I mess that up somewhere?
13/11/21 00:24 Views: 1230246 Comments: 80276 UP: 12k DOWN: 87k   1:7.25

See attachments:
13/11/21 20:15 Views: 1186869 Comments: 80323  UP: 12k DOWN: 83k   1:6.66   (NOT SIGNED IN and away from home)
13/11/21 23:27 Views: 1219815 Comments: 79899  UP: 12k DOWN: 86k   1:7.16

So it looks like they are indeed culling the comments now whether that means the actual comments or counter.

How can (81138-80276)= 862 + 424 above = 1286  comments and god knows how many more comments they might have removed violate Youtube policy at the same time?

That seems a lot.

[SiliconWizard]

Well, dislike counts still appear over here. Dunno if they're still gonna remove that, or if there is a delay, or if it depends on region?

The YT Creators video announcing that happens to have gotten 110k dislikes and 13k likes.

[MrMobodies]

It's not often I get comments on my comments but  the comment activity in that video looks quite intensive at the moment.

[Ranayna]

Just as a suggestion for Dave:
Stop linking to your Youtube Videos here in the forum. Link to Odysey, or whatever other platform. While i do not know how many hits the forum links actually get, it may bring the alternatives into more focus.

[FireBird]

Interesting. For me (here in Austria), they’ve switched to „I Don’t like it“ on the 13th.

[MrMobodies]

Got another reply during the stats posts



Some extension to reveal the dislikes built for Firefox but shows a way of making it work on Chrome:


SEE YOUTUBE DISLIKES AGAIN (WEB EXTENSION, READ DESC)
15/11/21 Kitir


I'll experiment when it disappears but by that time I've already lost faith made plans and they'd possibly find out about the extension soon enough and fix it  for themselves.

Forgot to leave link to the extension:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-dislikes-revealer/

[MrMobodies]

Just saw the change and I have sadly just cancelled the Premium subscription and abandoned the profile. Not taking my money let the ads pay for it in my opinion. Not willing back any platform that behaves like that. I don't want be lied to and manipulated by Youtube staff and the statistics they set and that "I'll quickly get use to it". Nope.

Last stat: 18/11/21  06:58  Views: 1687774  Comments: 101139   UP: 15k  DOWN: 184K  Ratio 1:12.26

Noticed on their helpful Google blog that they do have helpful and unhelpful with counters on their posts but they also have UPVOTE buttons with counters but no DOWNVOTE button. I wonder how long that has been going for on and whether they have been trying to extend this onto Youtube.

I am not willing to mess about trying to see the counters with extension above.

I think it is only going to get worse once they start doing things like this.

Going to take a look at the other video platforms later.

[tszaboo]

Dislike counter is now gone here.

Number of likes or dislikes on a video have never ever been to me a decisive factor to watch or not to watch it. Frankly, i do not see what is this fuzz about. Anyone with a brain does not need that external 'help' . Just my opinion. For creators to use it as feedback - i agree it is useful. But YT does not take it from them. So, meh. 

It was used as a feedback for movie trailers like Ghostbusters 2016. And if you disagree with The Message, or just don't like the movie, simply because it is not funny, you are labeled a misogynistic naci. People's opinion was hurting Hollywood's income, so your opinion shall not be visible anymore. Be it, deleting comments, shadow banning your YT channel, or any other method. And some people just cannot handle negative feedback, and we as society have to be so catering for them, otherwise those little snowflakes would crumble.

[MrMobodies]

some people just cannot handle negative feedback, and we as society have to be so catering for them, otherwise those little snowflakes would crumble.

I think if they are going to hide the stats from the viewer they should also hide it from the content creator but that sounds to me just as ridiculous.

[mc172]

I'm confused now, I'm sure it was gone but it seems to be back? I just watched EEVblog 1438 - The TOP 5 Jellybean Regulators & References and it's got a dislike count.

[MrMobodies]

I'm confused now, I'm sure it was gone but it seems to be back? I just watched EEVblog 1438 - The TOP 5 Jellybean Regulators & References and it's got a dislike count.

Trying it on maybe due to the protests but when it goes silent they may continue and I won't believe it until they announce it.

If they announce and promise to bring it back and never ever to do that again then maybe I'll start using my account and restore the Premium subscription.

Oh yes I see....   

18/11/21  21:19  Views: 1750595  Comments: 108355   UP: 15k  DOWN: 198K  Ratio 1:13.2 Ratio, that ratio seems to be going up slowly

I still still don't trust that it will stay without a formal acknowledgement from that that they are going to stop this bullsh*t altogether.

Ah actually no... if I go into another browser profile, clear the cache and the counter stat is hidden.

[tszaboo]

I'm confused now, I'm sure it was gone but it seems to be back? I just watched EEVblog 1438 - The TOP 5 Jellybean Regulators & References and it's got a dislike count.

They do this. Usually not rolling out an update worldwide. Or A/B testing search results, and seeing user engagement.
Maybe they track how many times you press dislike if you are shown the counter.

some people just cannot handle negative feedback, and we as society have to be so catering for them, otherwise those little snowflakes would crumble.

I think if they are going to hide the stats from the viewer they should also hide it from the content creator but that sounds to me just as ridiculous.

You think the movie director has access to the youtube account to see the dislikes?

[MrMobodies]

You think the movie director has access to the youtube account to see the dislikes?

I don't know about movie directors.

I forgot earlier after year that when Dave was recommending exploring other video platforms I actually copied some browser template profiles with shortcuts to auto sign into them and just found them...  ,Bitchute, Odysee and LBRY

The Odysee browser profile shortcut is all there and working. The only thing I'd like to get rid of is the gradient over the player controls and animations over the placeholders.

I'll just transfer my trust from that platform over to these platforms.


Just found this:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10208323/YouTube-censored-video-streams-independent-legal-experts-commenting-Kyle-Rittenhouse-trial.html

YouTube CENSORED livestreams and commentary of several independent legal experts who commented on Kyle Rittenhouse trial just moments after judge dismissed gun charge
YouTube briefly suspended a number of independent law groups who were commenting on the Kyle Rittenhouse trial over 'policy violations'
The incident happened just as Judge Bruce Schroeder dismissed Rittenhouse's charge of illegal possession of a firearm
The company claimed the channels were using 'copyrighted audio,' despite footage from the trial being public domain
One prominent law group, Rekieta Media, lost about 40,000 viewers during the suspension
Meanwhile, other news outlets like PBS were up and running for the whole trial
By BRIAN STIEGLITZ FOR DAILYMAIL.COM

PUBLISHED: 19:09, 16 November 2021 | UPDATED: 22:22, 17 November 2021

YouTube censored the livestreams of a number of independent law groups who were streaming the Kyle Rittenhouse trial Monday with commentary, briefly suspending their videos after Judge Bruce Schroeder dropped the Kenosha shooter’s charge of illegal possession of a firearm.  The tech giant intermittently suspended at least four different channels for a 20-minute period during the trial’s closing arguments, over what the company called 'policy violations' for using copyrighted audio – despite trial footage being in the public domain.  Once the company determined the videos were not in violation of copyright law, they were all back up and running. But law group, Rekieta Media, lost about 40,000 viewers - nearly half the people watching their video.  It is against YouTube's terms and conditions to use copyrighted content, meaning the site could suspend videos and streams that do. However, it's not clear what the company thought was copyrighted in the livestreams that it suspended or why it only cut out, intermittently, for about 20 minutes.  In addition to Rekieta Media, news group Law and Crime, video-streaming platform Odysee and right-of-center political commentator The Amazing Lucas had their streams suspended. All channels are either conservative-leaning or centrist, however liberal channels like CBS and PBS appeared to have no issues with their streams of the trial.


In a livestream featuring eight lawyers, Nick Rekieta, the group’s founder, says, ‘I got a warning that says, heads up, we’ve detected copyrighted audio in your stream, your stream might be temporarily blocked.’   The streams appears to cut in and out as Rekieta tries to determine what is happening and alternates between different coverage of the trial before one lawyer in the chat says, ‘This is not making any sense. They’re saying the court audio is copyrighted audio? This makes no sense.’  They continue switching between video of the trial, noting that PBS has stayed up the whole time, as the lawyer adds, ‘You can’t copyright public domain.’ Several minutes later, the issue is still interrupting their video as ReKieta says, ‘I don’t know how to articulate how angry I am right now. YouTube shut the stream down.’ Eventually, they get the stream up and running again, but not before noting that 40,000 viewers left during the technical difficulties. Rekieta Media tweeted at 12:10pm, as the stream was happening, ‘HEY @TeamYouTube YOU BLOCKED MY STREAM?!? FIX THIS SHIT.’




...

Addressing the YouTube suspensions, Carlson wrote, ‘Just minutes after the judge in the case dismissed the gun charge, YouTube, which is owned by Google, censored the video streams of several independent legal experts who were commenting on the trial in real time. These were knowledgeable attorneys, many of whom were critical of the obvious weaknesses in the prosecution's case.
...

Sounds to me Youtube are playing games.

The funny thing is (if you can call it that) they're doing the same thing with that dislike counter for empty/nonsensical reasons like in that "Update to YouTube's dislike count" video where the truth in the dislike counter is surpressed to the viewer.

[MrMobodies]

SEE YOUTUBE DISLIKES AGAIN (WEB EXTENSION, READ DESC)
 youtube.com/watch?v=9Vh3KF8Rpbk
Comments

Saved State 4 days ago:
How about fter december in in api youtube will remove dislike data?

Kitir 4 days ago:
i doubt they will since that'll prob break many programs that rely on it. something called "backwards compatibility". if they do, that's just beyond stupid

Xavagery 3 days ago
 @Kitir  They are beyond stupid tho

According to this article that is exactly what they say they are going to do on December 13th onwards.

https://www.gizmochina.com/2021/11/19/youtube-dislikes-count-gets-resurrected-through-a-browser-extension/

YouTube dislikes count gets resurrected through a browser extension
By Zohaib Ahmed -Nov 19, 2021

Regardless, an innovative programmer has attempted to restore the function on YouTube by creating a browser extension for the same. It uses a YouTube API to generate the dislike count. The only catch here is that the API will be removing the dislikes property on December 13 or so, following which the extension will cease to work the way it currently does.

Joke: I think it will also be due for a re-brand. Why not call it YOUFOOL. Where the viewers are FOOLED into watching mass disapproved spammy/misleading content made to look positive at first with the counters that they set.

[MrMobodies]

I have found this in the newspaper today:

Where Creativity rows
Learn more about YouTube's impact on
the creative economy at yt.be/impact.

I don't really remember coming across a YouTube advert like this before in the newspapers.

If it is not his own idea I wonder if they are using his image and others like him to try attract new viewers and creators on the platform.

[thm_w]

If it is not his own idea I wonder if they are using his image and others like him to try attract new viewers and creators on the platform.

The photo might be his idea, but the link is generic.
For me it goes to a page with a bunch of canadian youtubers, so its region specific.

[MrMobodies]

Today's protest in that video:

Truly disgusting that “YouTube” would “do” such a horrible thing.

[tszaboo]

Today's protest in that video:

Truly disgusting that “YouTube” would “do” such a horrible thing.

Is it a protest, or is it a bunch of robots posting?
I had to clean up maybe a dozen times after robots in my videos. The worst offender was impersonating my account, leaving a reply to every comment in about two dozen videos, leading to a scam. Took me like 30 minutes to clean that up.

[MrMobodies]

Looks like that might be the case with the bots doing the protesting:

https://madghosts.com/copypastaarchive/truly-disgusting-that-youtube-would-do-such-a-horrible-thing/

EmojiBotV2 a day ago
Truly 💯 disgusting 😷 that “YouTube 📹” would “do” such a horrible 🚯 thing 🕑

CummyBot4200 a day ago
Truly disgusting that “YouTube” would “do” such a horrible thing

Disappointing as that goes towards their justification of "targeted attacks".