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Offline bd139

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Re: eevBLAB 97- Is Apple Serious About Right To Repair? (The Verge)
« Reply #125 on: June 08, 2022, 07:04:07 pm »
Only when you compare the price to the third party turds you get from aliexpress and the local market.

The point is that the Apple repair parts are priced so as to make it uneconomical to repair the devices yourself when compared to an official Apple repair and that's not including cost of labout/time.

It's a pretty standard way to keep people out of your market and Apple have been doing it for decades.

I give up though, it's always the same when religious zealots get butthurt that anyone criticises their god and I should know better than to bother.

I don’t find the parts expensive. Or the repairs. Or the devices. Based on the value I derive from using them.

It sounds like you want Mercedes parts at Citroen prices and are coming up with every reasoning to justify that position. You are fine to buy a Citroen and buy generic parts for it. But that doesn’t invalidate that I want a dealer serviced Mercedes. I just want a nice car that works.

If you think that’s being a zealot or having butthurt then up to you but I’m happy. Many of us are.

Edit: to clarify I drive a dealer serviced Citroen  :-DD
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Re: eevBLAB 97- Is Apple Serious About Right To Repair? (The Verge)
« Reply #126 on: June 08, 2022, 07:14:44 pm »
It could be a lot worse, you could drive a Peugeot..
 

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Re: eevBLAB 97- Is Apple Serious About Right To Repair? (The Verge)
« Reply #127 on: June 08, 2022, 07:16:55 pm »
No no no no I had a Fiat before. 54k miles and the engine blew up  :palm: :palm: :palm:
 

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Re: eevBLAB 97- Is Apple Serious About Right To Repair? (The Verge)
« Reply #128 on: June 09, 2022, 10:50:00 am »
Good but I wish something less crap existed than USB-C. It has the worst mechanical interface and one of the most inconsistent electrical interfaces out there.

USB-C is definitely a prime example of trying to ram a quart into a pint pot.   It kind of defeats the purpose of a standard connector when the connectors do different things on different devices.  Sometimes there are different USB-C ports that do different things on the same machine!  ...  so now the user has to remember which port does what!   OMG the poor design practices of modern software is making it into hardware now...
 
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Re: eevBLAB 97- Is Apple Serious About Right To Repair? (The Verge)
« Reply #129 on: June 09, 2022, 10:55:38 am »
USB-C is definitely a prime example of trying to ram a quart into a pint pot.   It kind of defeats the purpose of a standard connector when the connectors do different things on different devices.  Sometimes there are different USB-C ports that do different things on the same machine!  ...  so now the user has to remember which port does what!   OMG the poor design practices of modern software is making it into hardware now...
Its like the standards are constructed by two opposing groups who loathe each other. "Let's make the new connector so generic you can flip it over and it still works.". "We'll show them. Let's do a 'Babel' on them, and end up with a plug that only works in exactly the right socket, and cables so un-generic buyers are totally confused which cable they need.".
 
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Re: eevBLAB 97- Is Apple Serious About Right To Repair? (The Verge)
« Reply #130 on: June 09, 2022, 11:15:36 am »
To note, USB-C is only reversible until you repair the connector. It’s virtually impossible to replace the underside pin row properly without very specialist gear. So lots of people now have things that only work with the connector one way up  :palm:
 

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Re: eevBLAB 97- Is Apple Serious About Right To Repair? (The Verge)
« Reply #131 on: June 20, 2022, 07:28:33 am »
For what it's worth Hugh Jeffrey has commented on this as well, here is his video:



While I know the focus is on Apple, 'Right to Repair' affects other things as well. This video shows someone repairing a washing machine that was 'curbed' because it was making grinding noises. Had it been as the creator first suspected the transmission of the washing machine the only option was complete replacement of the transmission because it's been designed to impossible to replace the internal components of the transmission without destroying it.

As it turned out the fix was far simpler and due to that particular machine being sold under multiple brand names it's worthwhile getting the knowledge out there as the fix could save a lot of wasted resources.



 
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