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Re: EEVblog #1032 - John Kenny Keysight Interview
« Reply #25 on: October 18, 2017, 05:43:32 am »
Curious to know when this was recorded as the Santa Rosa HQ office has been affected by the fires over there, though I am not sure to what extent. Any info?
 

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Re: EEVblog #1032 - John Kenny Keysight Interview
« Reply #26 on: October 18, 2017, 06:25:01 am »
Curious to know when this was recorded as the Santa Rosa HQ office has been affected by the fires over there, though I am not sure to what extent. Any info?

The buildings are fine, but power was still cut as of Monday when John mentioned it.
 
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Re: EEVblog #1032 - John Kenny Keysight Interview
« Reply #27 on: October 18, 2017, 06:49:26 am »
That was a very informative interview I really enjoyed it. Liked the stuff on digital control loops it makes a lot of sense. The galvo and motor control designers have been doing this sort of stuff for decades and that is just two examples that I can think of. There comes a point where non linear control loops are just not cost effective using analogue techniques. Good to see Keysight are now focused on instrumentation  :-+
 

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Re: EEVblog #1032 - John Kenny Keysight Interview
« Reply #28 on: October 18, 2017, 07:03:33 am »
Excellent interview.

Also, I think I'll learn to accept the Keysight name now that I know _why_ they stopped being Agilent. It seems like it was an excellent decision for the T&M part of Agilent leading to more money being spend on building better products.
 

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Re: EEVblog #1032 - John Kenny Keysight Interview
« Reply #29 on: October 18, 2017, 07:28:47 am »
I agree with the clarification over the naming.  It makes a lot more sense and clears the air around what we can expect from the company.

I do feel the greatest empathy with all involved for not being able to claim back the Hewlett Packard name.  T&M is where the name entered the world - and it's where it should have stayed.  Unfortunately, that horse has bolted.

Keysight is a name that now has a clearer definition - and it's one that I can grow to like even more.
 

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Re: EEVblog #1032 - John Kenny Keysight Interview
« Reply #30 on: October 18, 2017, 12:25:00 pm »
Great interview. A good balance between technical and the business side of things.  :-+
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Re: EEVblog #1032 - John Kenny Keysight Interview
« Reply #31 on: October 18, 2017, 01:50:47 pm »
Dave this one is so huge, thanks for having this Idea ;) Please continue and add more questions to the table, and also please bring some other so cool guys from other big companies too.

There are these few questions for you. if they use Xpedition, please introduce more topics on the PCB EDA packages, why they choose Xpedition and not for example altium, since we heard more and more companies like TI that have switched to Altium

They are making ADS, do they use it internally? I did not heard anything spacial regarding that one :) ;) please ask him more about ADS too.
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Re: EEVblog #1032 - John Kenny Keysight Interview
« Reply #32 on: October 18, 2017, 02:15:27 pm »
Some remarks on using linux for commercial products. Anything above the kernel layer can be proprietary and closed source. There's no requirement by the GPL to provide the source for those applications. But there's a grey area around drivers. A driver could be considered some kind of kernel derived work which implicates the publication of the source code. Several companies work around that by creating a wrapper module and a proprietary binary blob which is used by the wrapper. The source code for the wrapper is provided as required by the GPL, but the binary blob stays closed source.
 

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Re: EEVblog #1032 - John Kenny Keysight Interview
« Reply #33 on: October 18, 2017, 02:50:49 pm »
Some remarks on using linux for commercial products. Anything above the kernel layer can be proprietary and closed source. There's no requirement by the GPL to provide the source for those applications. But there's a grey area around drivers. A driver could be considered some kind of kernel derived work which implicates the publication of the source code. Several companies work around that by creating a wrapper module and a proprietary binary blob which is used by the wrapper. The source code for the wrapper is provided as required by the GPL, but the binary blob stays closed source.
That is right. You can build whatever closed source application on top of Linux you like. Take Xilinx for example: they are not obligated to release the sources for their FPGA software which runs on Linux. What Linksys did (wrong) was use GPL libraries in their software and then you need to disclose your sourcecode.
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Re: EEVblog #1032 - John Kenny Keysight Interview
« Reply #34 on: October 18, 2017, 03:45:51 pm »
Some remarks on using linux for commercial products. Anything above the kernel layer can be proprietary and closed source. There's no requirement by the GPL to provide the source for those applications. But there's a grey area around drivers. A driver could be considered some kind of kernel derived work which implicates the publication of the source code. Several companies work around that by creating a wrapper module and a proprietary binary blob which is used by the wrapper. The source code for the wrapper is provided as required by the GPL, but the binary blob stays closed source.

A method which is questionable, but nobody has the money to go after nVidia and the like.
 

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Re: EEVblog #1032 - John Kenny Keysight Interview
« Reply #35 on: October 18, 2017, 04:08:55 pm »
Great interview so far - cant wait for the rest.

Great to hear he is still contributing to actual products - too many 'higher ups' just spout marketing BS and dont understand the under the hood at all.
 

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Re: EEVblog #1032 - John Kenny Keysight Interview
« Reply #36 on: October 18, 2017, 04:22:23 pm »
Agilent has at least a few products that used Linux - several spectrum analyzer models.
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Re: EEVblog #1032 - John Kenny Keysight Interview
« Reply #37 on: October 18, 2017, 10:31:55 pm »
Just watched (and downloaded) part 3
What a great source of amazing facts.
Thanks so much again, for doing this interview.

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Re: EEVblog #1032 - John Kenny Keysight Interview
« Reply #38 on: October 18, 2017, 11:05:22 pm »
Just watched (and downloaded) part 3
What a great source of amazing facts.
Thanks so much again, for doing this interview.

This is a fantastic interview - the whole near two and a half hours are available on the little known The Amp Hour youtube channel


...as voice only as you would expect a podcast to be.

But not on the actual https://theamphour.com/ website as of yet.  :-//

(hmm... I'm beginning to think someone fucked up the releases here?)  ;)
 

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Re: EEVblog #1032 - John Kenny Keysight Interview
« Reply #39 on: October 18, 2017, 11:15:38 pm »
i missed it if this has already been mentioned, Dave, but how did this interview come about?. did you call him and float the idea or did someone from johns side contact you and suggest the idea?  so, maybe you can talk a bit on how this interview gelled. but anyway, great job on putting the interview up. thank you.
 

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Re: EEVblog #1032 - John Kenny Keysight Interview
« Reply #40 on: October 18, 2017, 11:18:24 pm »
Both the Jack Ganssle interview and this one have been tremendously enjoyable. It's great to hear knowledgeable and experienced people speak so freely, yet measured.

I have to commend Dave's grown interviewing skills too. He's guiding people to subjects and then letting them speak. Very nice.
 

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Re: EEVblog #1032 - John Kenny Keysight Interview
« Reply #41 on: October 18, 2017, 11:50:02 pm »
How did I miss the Jack Ganssle interview??

Where was that?
 

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Re: EEVblog #1032 - John Kenny Keysight Interview
« Reply #42 on: October 19, 2017, 12:10:35 am »
How did I miss the Jack Ganssle interview??

Where was that?
It was on EEVblog #818. Enjoy!

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Re: EEVblog #1032 - John Kenny Keysight Interview
« Reply #43 on: October 19, 2017, 01:02:33 am »
Thanks.

Missed that one somehow.
 

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Re: EEVblog #1032 - John Kenny Keysight Interview
« Reply #44 on: October 19, 2017, 02:33:04 am »
Such a great interview series. Thanks, Dave and John, for spending an amazing amount of time to make this. It's invaluable getting to hear about so much of the company history, philosophies, and how that all works into the present and future of Keysight. It really makes a difference in how one perceives a brand.

Dave, I hope you'll be able to have more opportunities to produce enlightening interviews like this with T&M companies.
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Re: EEVblog #1032 - John Kenny Keysight Interview
« Reply #45 on: October 19, 2017, 07:13:03 am »
From part #3 it seems like Keysight is reading the forum, so let me just put this here in the off chance they might read it:

Keysight, THIS is how you do marketing for T&M equipment. This interview has put your company in a better light than a mountain of glossy brochures and a thousand visits by salesreps could ever have done.
 

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Re: EEVblog #1032 - John Kenny Keysight Interview
« Reply #46 on: October 19, 2017, 08:49:25 am »
(hmm... I'm beginning to think someone fucked up the releases here?)  ;)

Damn Libsyn auto-publish  ^-^
 

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Re: EEVblog #1032 - John Kenny Keysight Interview
« Reply #47 on: October 19, 2017, 08:54:10 am »
i missed it if this has already been mentioned, Dave, but how did this interview come about?. did you call him and float the idea or did someone from johns side contact you and suggest the idea?  so, maybe you can talk a bit on how this interview gelled. but anyway, great job on putting the interview up. thank you.

Simon who is my Oz (and "official") contact at Keysight approached me to see if I was interested. John is an EEVblog viewer and I think he wanted to drop by and meet me and the interview was probably a way to justify the side junket from Singapore ;)
IMO money well spent by Keysight, the PR from this is priceless.
 
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Re: EEVblog #1032 - John Kenny Keysight Interview
« Reply #48 on: October 19, 2017, 08:57:09 am »
I have to commend Dave's grown interviewing skills too. He's guiding people to subjects and then letting them speak. Very nice.

I'm aware I get too excited and interrupt, and I'm getting better at that. The problem has always been that I think of something to ask in the moment and fear that I'll forget to ask, but now I try and store it for later. It's not easy doing that without taking notes like a professional interviewer often would.
 
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Re: EEVblog #1032 - John Kenny Keysight Interview
« Reply #49 on: October 19, 2017, 09:21:26 am »
It's not easy doing that without taking notes like a professional interviewer often would.

We won't mind if you want to get a little bit professional on us! Just so long as you don't turn up on screen with a tie on.  :D
 


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