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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #375 on: June 09, 2016, 05:48:41 pm »
"This page intentionally left blank" ... ?





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Taking user notes, probably. It's probably a way to store your important notes inside the book itself.
There is a appwikipage for that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intentionally_blank_page
I didn't know these so many cases. I thought modern printing would avoided them.

Back to topic...

Any more errata? What about the digital AoE3? What about The X Chapters? What about a Digital version of the latest Learning the Art of Electronics? How's the book?
 

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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #376 on: June 10, 2016, 01:06:50 pm »
Usually its because in the days of printed books there may not be enough material to fill that page after edits are made to the manuscript so something as simple as a font change, or a resized diagram.  Rare its a placeholder for newer material; its almost never there for readers to take notes.  Sometimes automated machine is programmed for a fixed number of pages and thus inserts blank pages for the run.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intentionally_blank_page

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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #377 on: July 14, 2016, 12:58:32 am »
I agree, we'll edit the section.


Just stumbled upon some further bandgap history/references.

Bob Pease in "The Design of Band-Gap Reference Circuits: Trials and Tribulations" introduces the two-transistor bandgap reference, referring to it as "The Brokaw cell.....attributed to Paul Brokaw[3]", the reference being: "3. AD580 Data Sheet, Analog Devices, Inc., 1975."

The AD580 would appear to be the first commercial IC to use the topology. It was initially introduced in 1974 in the 8-2 issue of Analog Dialogue:


 
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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #378 on: July 14, 2016, 10:27:18 am »
Just an amazing book, learned new concepts that will allow me to develop simplified and more cost-effective features in a few products!
when are the X chapters coming out??
 

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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #379 on: August 01, 2016, 12:01:50 am »
Just picked up the 3rd edition, and even being fairly new to electronics, the read is amazing.  It reads like a textbook, but advances to different subjects quicker, so it keeps me reading longer!
 

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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #380 on: August 10, 2016, 10:55:20 pm »
Does anybody know when the "x chapters" are going to be available?
 

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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #381 on: November 19, 2016, 09:34:44 pm »
Just got a nice typeset version of the FINAL updated index (actually, 2 indexes: Subject, and Parts), it's the work of about 5 months (!), and it's posted now on our website on the front page (artofelectronics.net).  It's not yet in printed editions or in the Kindle edition.  It's got LOTS more entries, quite useful.
 
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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #382 on: November 19, 2016, 10:13:40 pm »
Very nice, both to look at and to use.

Clearly the authors want to - and know how to - help the readers.
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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #383 on: November 20, 2016, 04:37:32 am »
Just got a nice typeset version of the FINAL updated index (actually, 2 indexes: Subject, and Parts), it's the work of about 5 months (!), and it's posted now on our website on the front page (artofelectronics.net).  It's not yet in printed editions or in the Kindle edition.  It's got LOTS more entries, quite useful.

A little confused:

When I go here: http://artofelectronics.net/

and click on the right link for this :  Learning the Art of Electronics 3rd Edition   (NOTICE the 3rd edition)
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Amazon.com – The Art of Electronics 3rd Edition / Learning the Art of Electronics 3rd Edition

this comes up

https://www.amazon.com/Learning-Art-Electronics-Hands--Course/dp/0521177235

and it says 1st edition   SO my question is -- which is right ?  1st or 3rd

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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #384 on: November 20, 2016, 04:56:08 am »
and it says 1st edition   SO my question is -- which is right ?  1st or 3rd

Well, that's why Amazon offers free return shipping and full refund in case you are not satisfied.

No it is a typo  - I am sure it is 1st and they wrote 3rd.  Typos on web pages drive me nuts.
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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #385 on: November 20, 2016, 06:03:35 am »
Just got a nice typeset version of the FINAL updated index (actually, 2 indexes: Subject, and Parts), it's the work of about 5 months (!), and it's posted now on our website on the front page (artofelectronics.net).  It's not yet in printed editions or in the Kindle edition.  It's got LOTS more entries, quite useful.

A little confused:

When I go here: http://artofelectronics.net/

and click on the right link for this :  Learning the Art of Electronics 3rd Edition   (NOTICE the 3rd edition)
Quote
Amazon.com – The Art of Electronics 3rd Edition / Learning the Art of Electronics 3rd Edition

this comes up

https://www.amazon.com/Learning-Art-Electronics-Hands--Course/dp/0521177235

and it says 1st edition   SO my question is -- which is right ?  1st or 3rd

thanks


For "Learning the Art of Electronics", 1st edition would appear to be correct.  See http://learningtheartofelectronics.com

The links there do not say 3rd edition for "Learning the Art of Electronics".
 

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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #386 on: November 20, 2016, 07:04:08 am »
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Amazon.com – The Art of Electronics 3rd Edition / Learning the Art of Electronics 3rd Edition

The links there do not say 3rd edition for "Learning the Art of Electronics".

 Learning the Art of Electronics 3rd Edition  =  3rd edition for "Learning the Art of Electronics   ??

(it is like reading the fine print)  You have to know we are talking about 2 books not 1   :-DD  One book is the 3rd ed and one is the 1st ed.


I forgot to say it is nice having the author come to this site  :-+
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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #387 on: November 20, 2016, 08:02:49 am »
The title on the website says it all "a hand on lab course" it's a different book.
 

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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #388 on: November 30, 2016, 08:41:34 pm »
Oops, spoke too soon -- the good news: the indexes (parts, and subject) we put up on artofelectronics.net on Nov 20 are thorough (footnote: "Please see him, Jeffrey.  He's a good man, and thorough."); the bad news: the pages are all off by -10% (weird, right?); the good-again news: they're really correct, now.  Discard previous, live happy.
 

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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #389 on: December 28, 2016, 10:28:41 pm »
Thanks Paul and Winfield for such an excellent books .Noticed them in my local bookstore today. After I read few pages I just cannot left store without them. :-+  :clap: :clap:
 

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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #390 on: January 04, 2017, 02:11:11 pm »
Any news about "The X Chapters" addition book?

When will the new editions going to have the improved indexes?

What about the upcoming online edition?

Any hopes to have the "The Definitive Edition With X Chapters and everything else, this time is true" Edition? :)

Any hopes to read your books in ereaders that use ePub and not from Amazon Empire?
 

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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #391 on: January 04, 2017, 03:46:50 pm »
Any news about "The X Chapters" addition book?

Yes, please.

I got the 3rd edition 1 year ago and had read the whole thing by the end of January. It was a really frustrating experience to see "see chapter Nx" for just about everything that looked like it was a tasty morsel of new information. To be still waiting for that hunger for information to be satisfied over a year after the 3rd Edition was published is tantamount to torture.
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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #392 on: March 13, 2017, 04:57:07 pm »
A few bits of news, if y'all are interested:
1. the x-chapters book is growing nicely, but we want it to be wonderfuller, so please be patient; lot's of goodstuff in there...
2. we are told that Cambridge Univ Press is now moving seriously toward an online version, but that's likely to be another year (we think)
3. a bit of excitement a couple of weeks ago -- a warehouse in California was raided, they found 4-5 pallets of counterfeit AoE3 copies -- cool!
4. we hope the full index will appear in some future printing, but for now it's posted in full on our website at:
    artofelectronics.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/subject_index_final_30nov16.pdf  (there's also a full index of parts, by number)
5. we're not sure the reason, but Amazon is currently selling the book for US$60 to prime members; we bought a few, they are the latest (10th) printing, and authentic ("Ships from and sold by Amazon.com exclusively for Prime members.")

that's all for now,
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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #393 on: March 13, 2017, 08:51:16 pm »
I got the 3rd edition 1 year ago and had read the whole thing by the end of January. It was a really frustrating experience to see "see chapter Nx" for just about everything that looked like it was a tasty morsel of new information.

I agree.  I'd hate to see this become a trend.  It's weak sauce.

Got something to say?  Put it online, or in a book.  Got something else to say?  Put it online, or in the next book.  In my line of work, unresolved forward references are errors.
 

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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #394 on: March 13, 2017, 11:05:13 pm »

1. the x-chapters book is growing nicely, but we want it to be wonderfuller, so please be patient; lot's of goodstuff in there...
2. we are told that Cambridge Univ Press is now moving seriously toward an online version, but that's likely to be another year (we think)


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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #395 on: May 24, 2017, 04:37:41 am »
The bad news: An old friend of mine has been told he may not have long to live.
The good news: He offloaded a pile of books to me yesterday. Among them is tAoE vol2. So now I have my old Vol 1, and vol 2.

I guess I should buy Vol 3. But reading this thread learned about the X-chapters, so will wait till that's available too. I hate 'broken links.'

Oh, and some of the books are duplicates (I have already.) I'll be putting those up on buy/sell here, as giveaways.
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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #396 on: May 24, 2017, 05:38:43 am »
The bad news: An old friend of mine has been told he may not have long to live.
The good news: He offloaded a pile of books to me yesterday. Among them is tAoE vol2. So now I have my old Vol 1, and vol 2.

I guess I should buy Vol 3. But reading this thread learned about the X-chapters, so will wait till that's available too. I hate 'broken links.'

Oh, and some of the books are duplicates (I have already.) I'll be putting those up on buy/sell here, as giveaways.

The bad news certainly sucks. :(  But the good news is interesting, at least -- I don't think I've ever seen a copy of AoE1.  Gotta say I like the cover better than the one on the current edition.

That being said... it would be a huge, huge mistake to pass up AoE3 because a few malcontents are grumbling about the whole X-chapter concept.  What they did publish is a masterwork that blows away its predecessor.   Get it.
 

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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #397 on: May 24, 2017, 08:23:11 am »
That being said... it would be a huge, huge mistake to pass up AoE3 because a few malcontents are grumbling about the whole X-chapter concept.  What they did publish is a masterwork that blows away its predecessor.   Get it.

Hey, I didn't say I'd pass up on it. I said I'd wait.
There is zero chance of 'missing out', since there are always 2nd hand copies available.
Famous last words. But...
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I prefer 2nd hand anyway, because I'm poor.
Also I'm both busy and reading-motivation-depleted these days, so there is no point rushing. I likely wouldn't read it for ages anyway.
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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #398 on: May 24, 2017, 08:39:09 am »
I prefer 2nd hand anyway, because I'm poor.
Also I'm both busy and reading-motivation-depleted these days, so there is no point rushing. I likely wouldn't read it for ages anyway.

Fundamental electronics has changed depressingly little between the 2nd and 3rd editions. The main changes are smaller/cheaper, different recommended components, much faster ADCs/DACs plus DSP, and nanopower electronics.
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Re: The Art Of Electronics 3rd Edition
« Reply #399 on: January 21, 2018, 09:11:00 am »
Well, time has passed and I still dream from time to time with the X chapters   ::) ::)
 


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