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Re: EEVblog #1099- BattBump - Dumbest Kickstarter Ever!
« Reply #75 on: June 28, 2018, 12:10:09 am »
Damn, the Youtube blurring tool is completely buggy and doesn't work properly. No option but to do the video myself and re-upload. Probably both videos. Then the Privacy complaints automatically go away.
BTW, now with two Privacy claims, I run the risk of getting two strikes on my account if I fight this and some faceless person at Youtube decides in her favour (quite likely)
It seems that you won't get a strike for privacy complain.
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Re: EEVblog #1099- BattBump - Dumbest Kickstarter Ever!
« Reply #76 on: June 28, 2018, 12:12:20 am »
Video #1099 seems to already be gone? That was fast....

Wow, just pathetic YouTube.
 

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« Reply #77 on: June 28, 2018, 12:35:55 am »
Video #1099 seems to already be gone? That was fast....

Wow, just pathetic YouTube.

youtube didnt remove it, author is removing/hiding them. agreed otherwise.
 

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« Reply #78 on: June 28, 2018, 12:54:18 am »
I just can't believe, like Dave said, that you can't even talk/report about something in the public domain. Dave made a lot of REALLY good points in his eevBLAB #48 about setting a precedence.

I feel like YouTube continues to shoot themselves in the foot over and over again with all these policies and mechanisms to censor or target content creators, or just make it plain difficult to do. Sad thing is that the big executives at YouTube believe what they are doing is a good thing, when instead they are slowly picking apart the recipe that made them successful in the first place :(

 

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« Reply #79 on: June 28, 2018, 01:01:15 am »
Looks to me like the battery bump video was clearly teenage kids doing their trolling and memeing and having a fucking good laugh. I'm nearly 50 and can clearly see a bunch of kids joking and taking the piss. I wouldn't put it past them to actually have a go trolling Kickstarter too and seeing if they can actually get some cash maybe? See how far they can take this insane social internet stuff?

I suspect the whole reason for the takedown is entirely because these are children.  :popcorn:
 

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« Reply #80 on: June 28, 2018, 01:09:24 am »
I just can't believe, like Dave said, that you can't even talk/report about something in the public domain...

It also helps that everyone is behaving like squealing little girls, running into hiding every time youtube basically tells them to self-censor or else. If one basically exposes criminal-looking attempt to rip people off, using public information to do so, said brave one should grow a damn spine. Let youtube remove videos on their own, if they deem it appropriate. Meanwhile upload said videos elsewhere and let rest of internet loudly know how youtube protects criminals.
 
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Re: EEVblog #1099- BattBump - Dumbest Kickstarter Ever!
« Reply #81 on: June 28, 2018, 01:31:25 am »
Video #1099 seems to already be gone? That was fast....

Wow, just pathetic YouTube.

youtube didnt remove it, author is removing/hiding them. agreed otherwise.

Correct. Youtube did not take it down (yet), I voluntarily removed it for a reason I won't go into now.
I will be uploaded a new redacted version shortly, which I think is more fun anyway.
As much as I'd like to fight this all the way, I think for various reason it's more fun to just reupload them.
I might be able to blur the Blab video, but the Youtube blur tool is just not cooperating.
 

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Re: EEVblog #1099- BattBump - Dumbest Kickstarter Ever!
« Reply #82 on: June 28, 2018, 01:32:28 am »
Damn, the Youtube blurring tool is completely buggy and doesn't work properly. No option but to do the video myself and re-upload. Probably both videos. Then the Privacy complaints automatically go away.
BTW, now with two Privacy claims, I run the risk of getting two strikes on my account if I fight this and some faceless person at Youtube decides in her favour (quite likely)
It seems that you won't get a strike for privacy complain.
https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2802032?hl=en

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Sometimes content is removed for reasons other than Community Guidelines violations, such as the safety of the person who posted a video, a first-party privacy complaint, court order, or other non-malicious issue. In these cases, the uploader won't receive a strike and the account won't be penalized.

Good to know, thanks. I thought it was the opposite.
 

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Re: EEVblog #1099- BattBump - Dumbest Kickstarter Ever!
« Reply #83 on: June 28, 2018, 01:49:37 am »
I'd like to just forget about it and pretend it was a clever joke. The KS campaign is consigned to the bit bucket and the individual responsible, whether it was a joke or not, clearly just wants to put it behind.  She's a small fish and not worth risking the appearance of bullying.
 

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« Reply #84 on: June 28, 2018, 01:56:11 am »
It's back!

« Last Edit: June 28, 2018, 04:52:09 am by EEVblog »
 

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« Reply #85 on: June 28, 2018, 01:57:49 am »
I'd like to just forget about it and pretend it was a clever joke. The KS campaign is consigned to the bit bucket and the individual responsible, whether it was a joke or not

Its is not a joke. She replied to several journalists defending it before she decided to remove it and try and erase everything.
 

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« Reply #86 on: June 28, 2018, 02:35:25 am »
Seems the video got taken down once again, dunno if this is a regional thing, or worldwide but I'm in the US and am unable to watch the reupload.
 

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« Reply #87 on: June 28, 2018, 02:42:40 am »
Hi all!

Same thing here...  Received YT notification for Dave's "revised" video, but it's blank...  (I'm in Canada.)  I was able to watch the new version posted by Dave on the blog before YT removed it (?).  I believe that YT requirements were met, but...  I follow the saga with interest.

We are with you Dave!!
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« Reply #88 on: June 28, 2018, 03:22:50 am »
Hobbyist and a retired engineer and possibly a test equipment addict, though, searching for the equipment to test for that.
 

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« Reply #89 on: June 28, 2018, 03:33:00 am »
not gone, just bad link
its 1ja4NFGY85I, should be KhRy6GDHgUA

Looks to me like the battery bump video was clearly teenage kids doing their trolling and memeing and having a fucking good laugh. I'm nearly 50 and can clearly see a bunch of kids joking and taking the piss.

Im sure you thought the same about guys with manbuns talking about blockchain/ico, until it finally downed on you they scammed idiot public to the tune of $300 billion (current "value" of all the scams).
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« Reply #90 on: June 28, 2018, 03:33:58 am »
It was gone and back up again for the third time.
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Re: EEVblog #1099- BattBump - Dumbest Kickstarter Ever!
« Reply #91 on: June 28, 2018, 03:52:30 am »
And you guessed it, she has now removed her photo from her website!
She is trying to vanish from the Internet over this boondoggle. Don't really blame her, it's pretty embarrassing, but hey, it's the Internet, she put herself out there very publicly.

Would you consider removing the video and letting this one go through to the 'keeper? Maybe she's just young and a bit too silly. I don't really want to know too much about her but I do feel for a young person who makes a poor decision and has to live with it.

Yeah, I'm all for pointing out mistakes and error. Even scams. But until I see actual harm, I'd always assume someone is wrong, and politely put em right. ...

If we lose the naive and confused along with the scams and attacks, are we any better than the scammers? Try to get those who still can learn and change back on track! :)

NO.
JUST NO!

I have NO sympathy for this **REDACTED**, because she is abusing YouTube policies to ACTIVELY CENSOR JOURNALISM! She is ACTIVELY causing harm to free press! Youtube is getting way too censor happy these days, and the fact that this **REDACTED**REDACTED** snowflake **REDACTED** licker is abusing the system to stifle fair reporting on technology news is BAD NEWS!  :bullshit:

I have NO sympathy for her, and for stooping to such abuses, I honestly hope she ends up flipping burgers and salting fries, rather than let her lead any sort of media production... What kind of awful influence is this **REDACTED** gonna have if she gets into production.

No sympathy at all...

(I know Dave don't care about swearing, but it felt... hmm... topical to **REDACTED**)  :-DD
 
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« Reply #92 on: June 28, 2018, 06:01:09 am »

NO.
JUST NO!

I have NO sympathy for this **REDACTED**, because she is abusing YouTube policies to ACTIVELY CENSOR JOURNALISM! She is ACTIVELY causing harm to free press! Youtube is getting way too censor happy these days, and the fact that this **REDACTED**REDACTED** snowflake **REDACTED** licker is abusing the system to stifle fair reporting on technology news is BAD NEWS!  :bullshit:

I have NO sympathy for her, and for stooping to such abuses, I honestly hope she ends up flipping burgers and salting fries, rather than let her lead any sort of media production... What kind of awful influence is this **REDACTED** gonna have if she gets into production.

No sympathy at all...

(I know Dave don't care about swearing, but it felt... hmm... topical to **REDACTED**)  :-DD

I can suggest you read " So You've Been Publicly Shamed by Jon Ronson". maybe it will soften your stance on applying the power of the Internet against someone. Sounds like it won't but I don't think beating up on this young woman is going to cover anyone in glory.

I'm not a fan of the debunking videos on Youtube and this one in particular I wish was never made. Especially if it was done because it is fun. This is no Batteroo or Ubeam. And  I'm still not convinced it wasn't a prank. It was never going to get fully funded.

Perhaps I should disclose that I stopped after a minute or so of the first incarnation. I didn't want to see more. So I'm not really criticising the video per se.
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Re: EEVblog #1099- BattBump - Dumbest Kickstarter Ever!
« Reply #93 on: June 28, 2018, 06:13:28 am »
I don't think anyone is "beating up" on her. She tried to make a quick buck for personal gain by launching a carefully worded Kickstarter project which basically meant that she could make $30,000+ and do nothing more than produce an application that didn't do anything. Those who skim-read the Kickstarter page could have easily backed the project expecting that the hardware and concept would come to fruition. She got caught out and now she has gone on a delete spree in an attempt to cover it up. It's probably more of a scam than Batteriser was, at least they had a product that kind of did something, not just a promise to wait until the technology became available.
 
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Re: EEVblog #1099- BattBump - Dumbest Kickstarter Ever!
« Reply #94 on: June 28, 2018, 07:42:45 am »
I agree with some of the sentiment above and the original KS campaign is gone.

It is unclear if the original was a hoax, a scam, a spoof or a scam based on identity theft.

The original website is old for all we know it was an April Fool from 2015.

In any event I think that this topic should be dropped and the response video and associated context in my mind is brutal if the originator did not intend a scam.

IMHO this topic is now out of hand and has the potential to lead to a bad outcome.  Needs caution.

Just my 2p worth.
 

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Re: EEVblog #1099- BattBump - Dumbest Kickstarter Ever!
« Reply #95 on: June 28, 2018, 07:43:16 am »
https://www.linkedin.com/in/catclark1/ profile keeps changing name - last it was Rebecca Field, now its Fruthal R - superprincess cat clark is actively working on whitewashing and hiding stuff, screaming its privacy was butthurt. clearly no reason to feel sorry for such a parasite. sad one, that redacted edition.
 
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Re: EEVblog #1099- BattBump - Dumbest Kickstarter Ever!
« Reply #96 on: June 28, 2018, 07:48:09 am »
I can suggest you read " So You've Been Publicly Shamed by Jon Ronson". maybe it will soften your stance on applying the power of the Internet against someone. Sounds like it won't but I don't think beating up on this young woman is going to cover anyone in glory.

I'm not a fan of the debunking videos on Youtube and this one in particular I wish was never made. Especially if it was done because it is fun. This is no Batteroo or Ubeam. And  I'm still not convinced it wasn't a prank. It was never going to get fully funded.

Perhaps I should disclose that I stopped after a minute or so of the first incarnation.

Okay... I'm just gonna be 100% clear here, since you yourself have admitted that you didn't look into the entirety of the video.
You clearly didn't look at the entirety of my message either, because the thing she did that is so UNFORGIVABLE, in my opinion, is that she abused Youtube policy to forcibly censor what was effectively a news report on what appeared for all intents and purposes, to be a scam.

This is about abusing the system to stifle freedom of the press.

The second she crossed that line, she made herself a target if ire! I don't even care about her little scam or prank or uneducated malarkey! It's her attack of freedom of the press.
 
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« Reply #97 on: June 28, 2018, 07:54:11 am »
 
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Re: EEVblog #1099- BattBump - Dumbest Kickstarter Ever!
« Reply #98 on: June 28, 2018, 08:00:16 am »
https://www.linkedin.com/in/catclark1/ profile keeps changing name - last it was Rebecca Field, now its Fruthal R - superprincess cat clark is actively working on whitewashing and hiding stuff, screaming its privacy was butthurt. clearly no reason to feel sorry for such a parasite. sad one, that redacted edition.

PS. managed to change url also https://www.linkedin.com/in/fruthalr/
thats not how people behave, who feel they made honest mistake.

 

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Re: EEVblog #1099- BattBump - Dumbest Kickstarter Ever!
« Reply #99 on: June 28, 2018, 08:46:08 am »
another clean-ish name: Charlotte M.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/catclark1/
clicking on "contacts" shows another url: linkedin.com/in/charlmarie
 


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