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Offline SilverSolder

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Re: EEVblog #1305 - HEPA Solder Fume Extractor
« Reply #75 on: February 17, 2021, 02:39:32 am »

Interestingly, it seems you can get quite ill from inhaling metal fumes:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_fume_fever
 

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Re: EEVblog #1305 - HEPA Solder Fume Extractor
« Reply #76 on: March 14, 2021, 09:17:06 am »
  Just watched the video for this particular fume extractor, and noticed someone found the filters for it as well, just have to message and deal with the company direct I think was said.

So just curious if this was still the way to go, or does anyone have an opinion on the Quick 6101A1 extractor (does seem to be a 3 stage and I'm sure filters are easier to buy)? I've seen it for sale for under 500$ with the tube, unfortunately I don't have the space to have a good setup, so I need some kind of extractor before I do anything, even minor stuff, and from what I've seen/read anything is better than nothing at all, just curious if anyone had any opinions on anything recently, as the companies site from the review no longer even lists that particular model, only saw it on Alibaba, and by the time you pay for the extractor and shipping the quick seems to be much cheaper.

Just thought I'd see what the thoughts on that are.
 

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Re: EEVblog #1305 - HEPA Solder Fume Extractor
« Reply #77 on: March 14, 2021, 03:51:33 pm »
  Just watched the video for this particular fume extractor, and noticed someone found the filters for it as well, just have to message and deal with the company direct I think was said.

So just curious if this was still the way to go, or does anyone have an opinion on the Quick 6101A1 extractor (does seem to be a 3 stage and I'm sure filters are easier to buy)? I've seen it for sale for under 500$ with the tube, unfortunately I don't have the space to have a good setup, so I need some kind of extractor before I do anything, even minor stuff, and from what I've seen/read anything is better than nothing at all, just curious if anyone had any opinions on anything recently, as the companies site from the review no longer even lists that particular model, only saw it on Alibaba, and by the time you pay for the extractor and shipping the quick seems to be much cheaper.

Just thought I'd see what the thoughts on that are.

A simple solution, if you don't solder very often and don't have a big budget for fume extraction, is to rig up a little fan on a "helping hand" stand - just place it so it blows the fumes away from your face. 

Any old fan (from a PC or whatever... most of us have one lying around)  will do.  For bonus point, add a small speed controller to the fan (eBay, $<very little>).

You could add a carbon filter to the fan, but I don't even bother with that...  open a window, fan on low, good to go.

This idea works because normally, the fumes are attracted to your face due to convection air currents around your head due to your body temperature.  So by just blowing them in a different direction, you inhale much less of it, and it doesn't get in your eyes.  Works for me!  :D

Why does smoke from a soldering iron ALWAYS go towards your face???





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Re: EEVblog #1305 - HEPA Solder Fume Extractor
« Reply #78 on: March 17, 2021, 01:19:27 am »
Has anyone looked into welding respirator and respirator filters in general. I would think that you would able to find ether a readily available filter or a combination of 2 that would do the trick.
 

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Re: EEVblog #1305 - HEPA Solder Fume Extractor
« Reply #79 on: March 17, 2021, 04:09:05 am »
Has anyone looked into welding respirator and respirator filters in general. I would think that you would able to find ether a readily available filter or a combination of 2 that would do the trick.

Sure those would work, but why? You can buy P100 respirator filters that are not specific to welding, that would be cheaper.
Wearing a respirator when soldering would be super uncomfortable as well.

Generally welding gear prices >> soldering gear prices.
 

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Re: EEVblog #1305 - HEPA Solder Fume Extractor
« Reply #80 on: March 21, 2021, 12:17:09 pm »
  Just watched the video for this particular fume extractor, and noticed someone found the filters for it as well, just have to message and deal with the company direct I think was said.

So just curious if this was still the way to go, or does anyone have an opinion on the Quick 6101A1 extractor (does seem to be a 3 stage and I'm sure filters are easier to buy)? I've seen it for sale for under 500$ with the tube, unfortunately I don't have the space to have a good setup, so I need some kind of extractor before I do anything, even minor stuff, and from what I've seen/read anything is better than nothing at all, just curious if anyone had any opinions on anything recently, as the companies site from the review no longer even lists that particular model, only saw it on Alibaba, and by the time you pay for the extractor and shipping the quick seems to be much cheaper.

Just thought I'd see what the thoughts on that are.
few tips i can say there

is not worth to paying for quick 6101A because you have many cloned chinese fume extractors with cheaper price available to buy and i am sure they uses same quality filters in short
-prefilter
-hepa h13
-gas filter (filter out 85% of gas particles) 

clones such as waterun f6100 and others use same filters and these filters have bituminous coal activated carbon impregnated with potassium iodide KI (i am sure quick use same carbon)

for example in last days i buyed one clone link that BEST BST-495 and have also same efficient gas filter here you have video


this fume extractor cost me half price of quick 6101a and also its replacement filters cost half price , i didnt smell any colophony outgoing from this fume extractor (could fell some % of solder fluxes) but this is very small ammount and doesnt irritiate also heavy metal gas from solder wire is reduced alot

in more expensiff fume extractors like for example bofa v300e you have activated carbon + activated alumina impregnated with kmno4 literature claim about kmno4 have wider range of various gas particles removal than potassium iodide

but in reality i dont believe about this bofa v300e gas filters could remove 100% of gas vapours

what means wider range ? in short it doesnt means about bofa v300e filters would clean you 100% air from gas it just meant about its filter could clean air from more different particles > could clean air from more brand of fluxes than other fume extractors
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Re: EEVblog #1305 - HEPA Solder Fume Extractor
« Reply #81 on: June 26, 2021, 10:45:22 am »
I've been watching this thread for a while, but from the UK it's hard to figure out what to purchase.  With shipping to UK the KS-180 isn't quite the deal it's made out to be in the video.  There are three shipping choiced on Alibaba starting at $333 dollars and going up.  Some options I looked at are:

quick 6101A
Can't seem to find any suppliers in the UK

Hakko FA-430  £952
https://www.hakko.co.uk/product/fa-430-hepa-compact-fume-extraction-unit/

Weller £637  (Rapidonline) 
https://www.rapidonline.com/weller-ft91012699n-zero-smog-el-fume-extractor-kit-1-85-5793

KS-180 via alibaba   £400 (TAX on top?)
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Kingsom-Nail-Suction-Dust-Collector_62409199915.html

TBK, KS-180 clone, no casters?    £299    99.2% feedback
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/265004714683

Similar looking clone, no casters  £264     99.5% feedback
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/164072572080

Fumego Clone with casters  £357
Fumego seem to be a slightly more 'up market' rebranding of KS-180 but maybe up market just means more expensive!
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/113968716122

Just wondering if there's anyone else from the UK, what they ended up with, how they decided, I'm tempted to go for the Weller and be done with it, because I have a weller soldering iron from two decades ago and I can still get tips for it.  It sounds like it will do the job and I'll still be able to get parts in the future.  OTOH, I have an ERSA soldering iron, so the ERSA fume extraction would be nice, but it's stupidly expensive and I imagine the spare filters would also be similarly stupidly expensive.

Thanks!
 


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