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EEVblog 1533 - How To Estimate Product Battery Life
« on: March 09, 2023, 10:30:32 pm »
How to estimate the battery life of a product. In this example, the BM786 multimeter.
How to measure battery current accurately, avoiding Burden voltage, and looking at battery datasheets characteristic curves. The difference between alkaline and lithium primary batteries.

 
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Re: EEVblog 1533 - How To Estimate Product Battery Life
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2023, 10:54:05 am »
In my experience, a lot of engineering students and young engineers don't appreciate and/or don't understand the importance of battery life testing -- despite the fact that so much of their world actually runs on batteries -- so this is a very timely and useful video.  Thanks!

(and nice power supply :))
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Re: EEVblog 1533 - How To Estimate Product Battery Life
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2023, 12:37:38 pm »
Even with alkaline cells there is not that much energy left at low voltage. If one would want to use a alkaline cell to a lower voltage one may need 1 more cell. In the current example 4 cells would allow 0.9 V per cell to get the same final 3.6 drop out point, but one kind of wastes the energy from 1 more cell.  So the 1.2 V final voltage is not such a bad choice.
With a linear regulator and a fixed min voltage getting the ideal final voltage is a little similar to the maximum power point of a solar cell. Depending on the voltage chosen one gets a different capacity / current and there is a point of maximum power / energy.
Going at least down to 1.2 V allows to use NiMH or NiCd cell.
This gets very anoying when the drop out is higher (e.g. 1.4 V in some cases  :( ).

Extrapolating to lower current draw is relatively easy, as the low currents the batteries are usually well bahaved. So there is a capacity for low currents and than a drop at the higher current end.
So for the 5 mA load using 2 times the time for 10 mA load is a good approximation. So no need to really extrapolate the curve.
 

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Re: EEVblog 1533 - How To Estimate Product Battery Life
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2023, 09:14:36 pm »
What? no use nor mention of the uCurrent, while explaining burden voltage ?
I'm afraid I can't let you omit that dave  :D

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Re: EEVblog 1533 - How To Estimate Product Battery Life
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2023, 09:59:39 pm »
What? no use nor mention of the uCurrent, while explaining burden voltage ?
I'm afraid I can't let you omit that dave  :D

It was there, you must have mentally blocked it out.
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Re: EEVblog 1533 - How To Estimate Product Battery Life
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2023, 12:37:15 am »
He even talked about the "low burden" 121GW, so promotion for two items. ;D
 

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Re: EEVblog 1533 - How To Estimate Product Battery Life
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2023, 02:07:51 am »
Of course there's also the star of the show, the BM786!  I've got one, and love it. 

Even if 120-150 hours of battery life isn't stellar (Fluke claims 400 hours for the 87v on one 9V), 3 AAA's cost less than a buck so I'll manage.
 


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