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EEVblog #228 - New Lab Progress...
« on: December 23, 2011, 01:48:56 pm »
The center of that room is calling out for a Pool Table to compliment the arcade machine :)

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Re: EEVblog #228 - New Lab Progress...
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2011, 01:52:45 pm »
The center of that room is calling out for a Pool Table to compliment the arcade machine :)

You mean another work bench with a green felt top?  ;)

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Re: EEVblog #228 - New Lab Progress...
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2011, 02:04:34 pm »
You mentioned bean bags... Perhaps a projector and a blu-ray player/PS3 for one of the white walls... :) For in between builds and teardowns...
 

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Re: EEVblog #228 - New Lab Progress...
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2011, 02:09:07 pm »
A sofa would be nice!

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Re: EEVblog #228 - New Lab Progress...
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2011, 02:16:42 pm »
I would put a big whiteboard on the wall and/or a smaller one on wheeled frame that would fit near the "video corner". And maybe some kind of permanent camera mount for the former, it would save time setting up the camera every time the camera is moved somewhere.

And thanks for mentioning those Border IKEA shelves, I was looking for some vertical storage system for my new house, I have very limited space there.
 

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Re: EEVblog #228 - New Lab Progress...
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2011, 02:32:18 pm »
The center of that room is calling out for a Pool Table to compliment the arcade machine :)

You mean another work bench with a green felt top?  ;)

Dave.

You mean abit like mine
 

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Re: EEVblog #228 - New Lab Progress...
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2011, 02:32:58 pm »
The center of that room is calling out for a Pool Table to compliment the arcade machine :)

You mean another work bench with a green felt top?  ;)

Dave.

We did it in one of our offices.

Have a nice dark stained top made to fit over it and call it the Board Room Table, great for meetings with Sponsors, suppliers etc.

But on a Friday afternoon the Top comes off, The kitchenette becomes a bar.
A  few cold ones over a Game of Pool is a great way to close off the work week and welcome in the weekend, You can even avoid the rush hour traffic.

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Re: EEVblog #228 - New Lab Progress...
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2011, 03:18:48 pm »
The center is certainly reserved for a chip printing machine.
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Re: EEVblog #228 - New Lab Progress...
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2011, 11:43:33 pm »
I think I would get something like a mobile desk with castors that you can lock.  So it can be stored up against the wall or brought out into the middle of the floor. Why? Well I imagine there could be circumstances when doing a demo, a teardown or similar, when it is better to have the camera facing you and looking down at the work.

On the subject of lighting, I have heard good things about metal halide lamps. They have a better more consistent colour spectrum than LEDs and fluoros. Ideal for a work area, or for filming with.

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Re: EEVblog #228 - New Lab Progress...
« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2011, 11:50:00 pm »
FWIW, if you're going to do the quadcopter, it'll be very handy to have a bench that's more than 90cm deep, closer to square and accessible from all sides. You can't beat 360-degree access for physically building stuff.
 

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Re: EEVblog #228 - New Lab Progress...
« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2011, 12:13:37 am »
I agree with Zad, you might want to do a cookery show style blog someday, or at least have the option.

Been eyeing up the ikea site today...
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Re: EEVblog #228 - New Lab Progress...
« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2011, 01:39:54 am »
The center is certainly reserved for a chip printing machine.

Didn't you see it in the video?, it's there, I already have one  ;)

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Re: EEVblog #228 - New Lab Progress...
« Reply #12 on: December 24, 2011, 03:19:13 am »
Nice work Dave.

How deep are the instrument shelves above the desk?

I am about to embark on a bench build in my soon to be built lab. Measuring up my instruments, I figure
that I would need at least 350 mm. Both my Agilent 34410A Meter and the TTi QL355T PS require at least 320 mm including
room for the power cords etc. I may keep the power supply on the bench as it is quite heavy.

Keep up the good work. I vote for a couch and beer fridge in the spare space, great at the end of a busy day beavering in the lab!

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Re: EEVblog #228 - New Lab Progress...
« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2011, 04:39:34 am »
I had to laugh at the bit at the end about trying to blag a spectrum analyser and a vector network analyser. Not sure quite what someone who never touches RF would do with those - they should clearly send them to me instead ;)

Maybe the amateur radio exam syllabus would give a good structure for a set of RF electronics videos. Just saying :D


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Re: EEVblog #228 - New Lab Progress...
« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2011, 05:47:49 am »
Maybe the amateur radio exam syllabus would give a good structure for a set of RF electronics videos. Just saying :D

And I'm going to do RF videos without those nice RF tools, how?  ;)

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Re: EEVblog #228 - New Lab Progress...
« Reply #15 on: December 24, 2011, 05:55:37 am »
Dave why you don't apply the bench with water based lacquer, i use it all the time. It has no smell and is dry to touch in 10 minuttes.

Your benches will degradation and wood will be sensitive to any mechanical damage (especially soft pine) and if you spill something on it it will go in the wood creating an ugly show.
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Re: EEVblog #228 - New Lab Progress...
« Reply #16 on: December 24, 2011, 08:18:21 am »
Greetings EEVBees:

--My experience is in Roof Design, and the itch in my little finger is telling me that those work bench tops could sag, especially if a 50 pound instrument were left in the middle for a day or two. I think if Dave does not want his work bench tops to sag in the middle, he should install an edge frame support all the way around the top. The long runs should be 2x4 (I do not know the common metric equivalent) and the short edges should be of nominal 1x4 (please substitute OZ equivalent). The long center line should have some additional support. I recommend 1" or so square steel tubing under the top along the center longitudinal axis. It need only be supported at the ends, no attachment to the top is necessary. Doubling the end edge support (provided the doubled edge supports are screwed together up and down every 8 inches or so) with a notch (in the inside member only) to support  the tube seems easiest. This arrangement would only be visible from underneath the bench, and has a relatively low (high) profile to avoid banging the knees, ouch. , but an "A" brace (not as elegant) could also be used to carry the load to the legs.

In short, as built, with point like support only at the for corners, I think you have a trampoline just waiting for the bowling ball to demonstrate General Relativity.

--I welcome any comments pro or con, from anyone who may know more about workbench design, than I do. If any one knows better, I would be more than happy to be wrong about this one.

--Also can anyone recommend a water based, low appearance factor, protectant for that raw wood. I my opinion, he is bound to need it. Hacklord's comment came in while I was writing this. More comments are still welcome.

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Re: EEVblog #228 - New Lab Progress...
« Reply #17 on: December 24, 2011, 10:25:06 am »
...2x4 (I do not know the common metric equivalent)

Ha, in Metric countries like Ozzy and NZ we use that for construction too, but we call it "4 by 2" ;)
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Re: EEVblog #228 - New Lab Progress...
« Reply #18 on: December 24, 2011, 10:30:35 am »
Well SgtRock i completly overlooked that detail and you are right. Without making a propper support Daves beches will become U shapped in a year or two. But however he keeps most of his instruments on shelf above the table but anyway he should do that. Im sending a picture of my new bench supports, we finished it just few weeks ago. I had a smaller bench, same system for few years and about 250 kg on it, they never bent.

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Re: EEVblog #228 - New Lab Progress...
« Reply #19 on: December 24, 2011, 10:32:16 am »
Dave,

You should seal all your bench wood because depending on the air-con/heaters in your new lab you may find the wood drying out and twisting/buckling in the process.

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Re: EEVblog #228 - New Lab Progress...
« Reply #20 on: December 24, 2011, 05:20:55 pm »
Where is your trusty Rigol scope, Dave?

Or did I just not look close enough? :)
Has it been replaced by the Agilent?

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EEVblog #228 - New Lab Progress...
« Reply #21 on: December 24, 2011, 06:56:06 pm »
Where is your trusty Rigol scope, Dave?

Or did I just not look close enough? :)
Has it been replaced by the Agilent?

Cheers from Germany,
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I'm guessing he's keeping that at home. Surely he will keep a scope at home ;)
 

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Re: EEVblog #228 - New Lab Progress...
« Reply #22 on: December 24, 2011, 10:50:23 pm »
Sounds reasonable to leave better scope at home lab
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Re: EEVblog #228 - New Lab Progress...
« Reply #23 on: December 25, 2011, 05:02:45 pm »
Oh the decadence. Haha ...

Yeah actually that makes sense.

I just felt like asking, since I didn't see it.

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Re: EEVblog #228 - New Lab Progress...
« Reply #24 on: December 25, 2011, 08:59:14 pm »
Hello Dave, This has previously been mentioned ( I Think ?). Your pine shelves will sag over a period of time. My suggestion is to find some strip angle iron to go along front edge of shelf. Being iron or a light stiff metal your multimeter magnets holders will have something to hold on to. Also, If you can find a C-Shaped strip for shelf edge that would be even better. The stiff strips along front edge will keep you from having to install brackets under shelves taking up space. Whew!!! Now, that was a rant on shelf edges.  :o
 


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