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Re: EEVblog #337 - HSC School Electronics Projects
« Reply #25 on: August 21, 2012, 07:00:36 pm »
I have had poorly thought-out questions before. Like this feedback loop for an SMPS which would never be able to start.
 

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Re: EEVblog #337 - HSC School Electronics Projects
« Reply #26 on: August 21, 2012, 07:57:07 pm »
OK, so the output of the power supply gets up to 12V, and the inputs to the op-amp become equal - then what? There's no way to tell from that circuit what the operating point of the opto-isolator should be.

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Re: EEVblog #337 - HSC School Electronics Projects
« Reply #27 on: August 21, 2012, 08:49:06 pm »
OK, so the output of the power supply gets up to 12V, and the inputs to the op-amp become equal - then what? There's no way to tell from that circuit what the operating point of the opto-isolator should be.

The problem is the opto should be HIGH to turn the converter on. But if the output is zero, the opto can never be high (no power!), so the converter can never start. (The exam question cheats because the comparator/opto is powered by a magical second supply.) Alas, the lack of compensation will also make a hideously bad converter, but let's not get into that. Now, this circuit would be perfectly fine if the comparator were reversed so LOW means switch on, HIGH means off.

The specification also had the teachers telling us a voltage regulator (i.e. 7805) used "on-off" control - and this was why you needed a cap on the output, to smooth the pulses. I WISH! Otherwise building an efficient switching converter would be too easy.
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Re: EEVblog #337 - HSC School Electronics Projects
« Reply #28 on: August 23, 2012, 09:45:24 am »
If anyone is interested, here are some example UK exam papers

GCSE (usually 14-16 year olds)
http://store.aqa.org.uk/qual/newgcse/pdf/AQA-44301-W-QP-JUN11.PDF
http://store.aqa.org.uk/qual/newgcse/pdf/AQA-44301-W-SQP.PDF

GCE (usually 16-18)
http://store.aqa.org.uk/qual/gceasa/qp-ms/AQA-ELE1-W-QP-JUN08.PDF
http://store.aqa.org.uk/qual/gceasa/qp-ms/AQA-ELE2-W-QP-JUN08.PDF
http://store.aqa.org.uk/qual/gceasa/qp-ms/AQA-ELE4-W-QP-JUN08.PDF
http://store.aqa.org.uk/qual/gceasa/qp-ms/AQA-ELE5-W-QP-JUN08.PDF

Those exams are well written and appropriate for the level of understanding you could attain within a high school subject.

If only we were offered subjects that better reflected actual career choices in our high schools.
 

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Re: EEVblog #337 - HSC School Electronics Projects
« Reply #29 on: August 23, 2012, 07:42:17 pm »
says video is private :(
 

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Re: EEVblog #337 - HSC School Electronics Projects
« Reply #30 on: August 24, 2012, 01:30:12 am »
It has been moved to private until all the HSC exam evaluations etc have been done.

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Re: EEVblog #337 - HSC School Electronics Projects
« Reply #31 on: August 28, 2012, 03:38:51 pm »
Hi Dave.
At 07:12 you tell that you will check something about the Velleman DSO, had you done so?
Was it like "DSO MK3"?
And what was the DSO MK3 ?
 


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