It was a really nice teardown as usual by Dave but I like the more standard off the shelf kinds of tear downs as I learn more about product design (do's and don'ts) etc but honestly I would rather see dave get heaps of exposure so he can make more out of his new full time gig! than just see more stuff that I personally like to see.
Good videos as always Dave! Thanks for all that you do for us
Holy smokes this teardown is getting tons of attention! Front page Gizmodo, Extreme Tech and Hackaday
Yeah, probably my most popular video to date in terms views in such a short time.
Dave.
Was expecting something a bit bigger... But I'd assume there's not many of those PDP-8 era (or older) hard drive units available. We (bunch of Uni students) did purchase one (with PDP-8) about 30+ odd years ago, not that we'd needed but it was kinds funky to have fridge/Freezer size HD system with removeable platters.
Not sure where those parts are these days.. Not even sure if I could find any photos of the system.
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Was expecting something a bit bigger... But I'd assume there's not many of those PDP-8 era (or older) hard drive units available. We (bunch of Uni students) did purchase one (with PDP-8) about 30+ odd years ago, not that we'd needed but it was kinds funky to have fridge/Freezer size HD system with removeable platters.
Try Googling CDC Hawk.
Something like that for sure.. Kinda scary when one starts to think about those platters turning ..
Kinda scary when one starts to think about those platters turning ..
The most scary part was the voice coil / actuator mechanism. I once met a service engineer who had lost three fingers on his right hand when a the voice coil was actuated with his hand in the way.
Hi,
which videocam do you use to record this video? Especially macro mode for magnetic heads.
Thanks.
Around a decade before this drive, I was working on DEC hardware, and specifically the RK05 (2.5MB) and RL01/2 (5/10MB) drives attached to LSI-11 systems.
It's interesting to see the similarities and throwback concepts - but despite being built like battleships they were extremely fragile in transit and in use.
Don't underestimate the voice-coil positioners. They would seek sequential tracks in under 2mS, and to any track under 6mS with a LOT of force. The'd have your finger f it was in the way!.
A colleague had his flashy bling ring melted onto hois finger by shorting across the power supply to the positioner... ! An optical strip encoder provided the track position feedback to the positioning electronics.
The RL0x drives were a bit more friendly - higher data density / slightly slower seek speed, and used another strategy common back then - with one surface pre-formatted with index data (effectively hard sectored)
Great to have the memories brought up !
does anybody knows how you recover data from theys??my workplace got 2 theys kinds hdd.only issue is ,computer what used them are dead.both hdd are located at basement..any clue how can i get data from them and connect with pc??they mostly collect dust there
My first suggestion is to find somewhere that still has one of these running ... probably a museum by now ... and see if they would be prepared to try and load it.
But I think you will have another problem.
I take it those drives haven't been accessed for some years - so I would highly doubt they would be readable. The magnetic domains have likely deteriorated over time.
Now we're going back. I can't recall if it was a SCSI or MFM interface, but you may find an old PC that still has a ISA (16?) bus. If so, it should be pretty easy,
especially with a disk recovery program. ie RSTUDIO r-tools tech
In cases where the hardware had failed, we used to use a chemical to "stain" the magnetic material, then high res photograph it. Someone had a program
that just re-encoded the headers etc, Most / all of the professional data recovery companies use that technique. On those large platters and such low data
density, it is quite easy.
I'm sure there'll be a USB adapter cable somewhere on eBay.