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Offline noJunk

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1775 on: January 04, 2020, 10:13:02 pm »
I'm currently on the path of testing the RK-System Uprog-ICP, should arrive any day by now.
But I'm already having issue with it's unclear DAQ software licensing type which seems to be used by the logic analyzer port.
Software is also crashing on VM with an NINI library error exception. So, hope are low and return policy will make the difference.
The Dediprog SF100 (firmware 4.1.1) work already on most of these intel board, dunno if newer version still do, but should.
GQ-4x4 partially work. Content is not begin correctly read and might require the ADP-056 adapter - got one inbound.
With a price tag over 300 I can virtually buy one QUICK 861DW do the training required on dead hardware and somehow try when ready in the next decade.
At the same quote I could also opt to find any PCB custom assembly services nearby and call it done with haste and warranty.
Next in the line is REVELPROG-IS once I'm done I'll evaluate the working\partial one.
TL-866II PLUS doesn't work.

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Either the software will tell you or it's not supported and the option is disabled and will not work.
OR it may not work even if the option is selectable and supported with an visual scheme.
good luck
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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1776 on: January 05, 2020, 10:16:36 am »
Hello everyone,
I need advice on how to connect to the board via ICSP port programmer TL866. I do not know what pin to connect. See picture

Thank you

I don't think that you can use the icsp port on that eeprom.



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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1777 on: January 05, 2020, 02:15:47 pm »
Hello everyone,
I need advice on how to connect to the board via ICSP port programmer TL866. I do not know what pin to connect. See picture

Thank you

I don't think that you can use the icsp port on that eeprom.



Alexander.

Thank you.
Thus, I would do it. The Eep 95160 is inaccessible to the board. I need to connect without disassembling complex boards using ICSP port.
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1778 on: January 06, 2020, 09:57:55 pm »
You can get this alloy cheaper on eBay from Romania, Moldova, Ukraine, Russia... Look for "Rose alloy", or "Rose metal" 50 grams of it will be more than enough for a lot of future work like that.


Regarding the ebay items these are the examples:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Roses-metal-Rose-metal-alloy-Rose-Lead-Bismuth-Tin-alloy/254142597132?hash=item3b2c14480c:g:8dAAAOSwBRdcdrBu

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Roses-metal-Rose-metal-alloy-Rose-Lead-Bismuth-Tin-alloy-Lot-of-50g/232200217143?hash=item3610362237:g:THcAAOSw1WJZIzF0

I use a similarly looking stuff bought at local electronics market in Ukraine (locally called KarDachi). It is equivalent to Chipquik product https://www.chipquik.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=220001 , just more of that special solder for less price.

Sorry about the late response to this topic - I was away for vacation.
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1779 on: January 07, 2020, 04:33:07 pm »
I think the malleability equivalent is more on the leaded ChipQuik SMD4.5 alloy side.
 The ChipQuik SMD4.5NL (lead free) would not give the same result especially on iron with less power or with cheap unoptimized thermal conductivity\design.

The thing with bismuth and lead you linked it's almost the best to desolder on budget, nobody should try with lead free product on SMD or valuable hardware.
 If you do use lead free with cheap iron: be ready to repair pads and trace and replace the IC.

In the EU leaded soldering product are an issue for hobbyist but should be written all over on any "desoldering video".
Wear the gloves, the mask and do it with an fume extractor and also while at check the material before on copper and aluminum for reaction.
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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1780 on: January 21, 2020, 11:52:12 pm »
In the end I soldered the socket on the board.



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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1781 on: January 22, 2020, 12:07:07 am »
In the EU leaded soldering product are an issue for hobbyist but should be written all over on any "desoldering video".
Wear the gloves, the mask and do it with an fume extractor and also while at check the material before on copper and aluminum for reaction.
Au contraire, Rodney, au contraire.
Lead 60/40 solder has a lower melting point and not so nasty fluxes which are required for unleaded solder. Your soldering iron will never turn lead into a gas that you breath in. The flux is another matter.
Normal people wash their hands before eating anyway so if a tiny miniscule of lead was on your fingers from handling 60/40 then it will be gone immediately.
Let me say, the EU RoHS is a typical globalist politicians response to a problem that did not exist and has exacerbated electronic waste and pollution (because nothing lasts any more with that shit lead free solder and just ends up in landfill).
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1782 on: January 22, 2020, 01:21:31 am »
Yea, I'm not advocating for lead free stuff, like I said: I save more by repairing the hardware or begin able to.
There just low quality inorganic stuff smelling really bad or making real sickening fume. Rosin flux usually smell not so bad, or alot (I'm using the SMD291 for availability) and doesn't leave acidic residue by product.
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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1783 on: January 22, 2020, 06:58:36 am »
Let me say, the EU RoHS is a typical globalist politicians response to a problem that did not exist and has exacerbated electronic waste and pollution (because nothing lasts any more with that shit lead free solder and just ends up in landfill).

Now there's an interesting take on history. The RoHS regulations have caused the transition to "disposable" electronics?! Where were you in the 80s and 90s, mate? (RoHS first became effective in 2002.)
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1784 on: January 22, 2020, 10:09:38 am »
Let me say, the EU RoHS is a typical globalist politicians response to a problem that did not exist and has exacerbated electronic waste and pollution (because nothing lasts any more with that shit lead free solder and just ends up in landfill).

Now there's an interesting take on history. The RoHS regulations have caused the transition to "disposable" electronics?! Where were you in the 80s and 90s, mate? (RoHS first became effective in 2002.)

It certainly added to the problem. We've scientifically proven that satellites were lost because tin whishers growing out of lead-less solder shorted out their nav boards. At least one NPP (AKW) shutdown is attributed to tin whiskers (Millstone, CT). Toyota could tell stories too... (conformal coating does not stop tin whisker growth, snatch).
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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1785 on: January 22, 2020, 12:05:54 pm »
It certainly added to the problem. We've scientifically proven that satellites were lost because tin whishers growing out of lead-less solder shorted out their nav boards. At least one NPP (AKW) shutdown is attributed to tin whiskers (Millstone, CT). Toyota could tell stories too... (conformal coating does not stop tin whisker growth, snatch).

But my point is that the whole industry -- first and foremost consumer electronics and computing, then increasingly also measurement & control devices etc. -- was moving to "disposable", non-repairable electronics as a business model, and that RoHS was introduced in response to that. Macbeth's claim that there was no good reason for introducing RoHS, and that RoHS has caused the proliferation of electronic waste, is a very "Brexit" thing to say...

As a side note, all the critical applications which you mention in your examples are actually outside of the RoHS scope: vehicles including satellites, as well as fixed industrial plants, are not covered to my knowledge.

 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1786 on: February 10, 2020, 11:07:38 pm »
did anybody in this topic ever managed to burn  EPROMs TMS2516/2532  if yes please PM me.
 


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