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Offline eLAB

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #425 on: March 04, 2014, 06:48:48 pm »
Is there anyone who have this adapter:
? I'd like to know what is U2.

U2  :o !!!?? It`s famous rock band from Ireland, the best album is "Joshua tree", song "Where the streets have no name"   :-DD...sorry, I coudn`t resist  ;)

In Your case:  U2=74HC244


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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #426 on: March 04, 2014, 07:57:58 pm »
thanks
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #427 on: March 05, 2014, 08:37:59 pm »
If you want to save money, buy TL866 at AliExpress.
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #428 on: March 07, 2014, 08:30:19 am »
Hello everybody, I'm new here. Searching for solutions to my TL866CS programmer I come to this place. Lots of interesting information's here. I've been reading whole thread and there's plenty of useful things. Congratulation to all contributors.
Now the problem I encounter... Reading 29F200 flash memory (sop44)...   I'm getting different read every time, also when verifying. Checked adapters and good contact, ID is all good. If I'm reading different flash memory ex 29F400 (tsop48) there's no problem. Anybody encounter this? Thanks.
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #429 on: March 07, 2014, 08:32:28 am »
Are you reading it with the exact adapter the MiniPro asks you for?

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #430 on: March 07, 2014, 11:09:21 am »
Quote from: autocargo
.... Reading 29F200 flash memory (sop44) ... I'm getting different read every time, also when verifying ...
I have no problems with 29F100s and others in that series type. Have you looked at a memory dump? How many bytes look wrong?
There's usually huge chunks of FFs or 00s. Is it very slow memory? Maybe CS etc is too fast?
I've had similar problems in the past and have to ADD pull-up resnets on the address lines, and pull-dn on the data bus. app 33-100K
I even made a custom adapter with selectable jumpers. If you have an oscilloscope, you'll see immediately if all the address / data lines
are "clean", or if there's loading / timing issues.
Hello <tap> <tap> .. is this thing on?
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #431 on: March 07, 2014, 12:34:11 pm »
Thank for quick replying.
@ EdoNork  -  Yes I'm using the right adapters. In software we can find the right adapters to use once we select the right eeprom/memory/flash etc....

@ digsys -     Different checksum at every read/verify, sometime around 12000 differences sometime around 3000 difference (never the same number of differences, always different read) .
 I've tried AM29F200BB and AM29F200AB they are found on cars ecu. I think they are fast chips since the car injection map is loaded into this flash memories. My old parallel port Willem PCB.5 reads them spot on.... I've made solder on type adapter for my Willem but they don't last so many soldering/unsoldering....
Would love to be able to read them into supplied TL866 adapter because they don't need any soldering.
 Your custom adapter solution looks interesting, would you mind posting a picture? Sorry I don't have any oscilloscope... Back on my problem.... Could be related to speed/timing issues? I even tried a usb powered hub thinking my laptop could not supply enough juice to programmer...  Still no luck....Thanks.
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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #432 on: March 07, 2014, 12:48:23 pm »
Well, probably this is not a reason but it`s worth to try:

- try to wash pins fom 29F200 with alcohol (or some other cleaner) and gently pass thru all pins with some precise tweezers....then try read it with ZIF socket. ZIFs are very good, but only way to have 100% good contact is to solder IC (soldering adapter). 
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #433 on: March 07, 2014, 07:59:37 pm »
mine came today (dhl):



some kind of 'gift' (lol) was included, too.  kind of funny.  it has a scent; maybe its meant to be hung up to make the room smell 'different'?  not sure.

this is the item I ordered, and I paid $15 extra for faster shipping, which really was pretty good (other sellers wanted much more for 'faster shipping').

http://www.ebay.com/itm/321085130796

I will try using it today and see how it goes.  just in time to copy my dallas chip data on my tek scope over to a new nvram module!

(I wonder if I put that gift into my scope, maybe it will make the scope smell nice, too?  LOL)
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #434 on: March 08, 2014, 12:06:40 pm »
Thanks,

I am new on the forum.

Just made modification on my Willem Pro TL866CS it works nice as a TL866A . Other than the firmware and the icsp port nothing missing from the board, only had to solder the ICSP header on.
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #435 on: March 11, 2014, 02:45:52 pm »
I bought a minipro tl866 cs and updated it to ver.6. At first it works fine but then i notice that I cant select the erase function or the erase button doesnt work. Did you encounter this guys? Help is greatly appreciated. Tnx
 

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« Reply #436 on: March 11, 2014, 02:49:06 pm »
I notice that Lynx in India (an active member on this forum) are listed as Agents for 'Autoelectric' on the Chinese website.

Well,
      I Am Thier Authorised Distributor In India .I Have Many Comments Of What Dave Had In This Video Of His  .You Can Find My Name Here - >  http://www.autoelectric.cn/MiniPro/order.htm .Let Me Post All i Have Got Into This Thread .Dave i Am Stepping On Your Tail Lol  :-DD
Hi lynx,
I bought a minipro tl866 cs and updated it to ver.6, I notice that the erase function doesnt work or am I missing something? Can you help me pls?
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #437 on: March 14, 2014, 12:54:16 am »
Hi ,
the erase fonction is depending of the selected chip..
for example it is grayed whith a 27256 UVPROM
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #438 on: March 14, 2014, 01:03:38 am »
sorry if this is too obvious a question, but I can't seem to find an english link to click on to get the latest firmware/software.  can anyone provide it?  should I just go with the latest downloadable, or is there a 'good' version to stay with?

I've installed the version that came on the cdrom and that worked, but I don't see an obvious link for latest support code.
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #439 on: March 14, 2014, 01:42:57 am »
Hi,
only click on help....>update on line..
then come a page ,with on the bottom left V6.00 in red and on the right "something1" and "something2" in blue...
click on "something1 or 2 for downloading the update.
the direct adress is "http://www.autoelectric.cn/minipro/minipro_setup.rar"
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #440 on: March 14, 2014, 03:54:43 am »
LOL

thanks.  I guess I was able to follow that.

vendor: is it really too much to ask for, to have a few languages that let users pick updates without having to guess what 'something1' means? ;)

....would be nice.
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #441 on: March 16, 2014, 03:46:53 pm »
anybody know where to get the 25 spi flash adapter board as mine is missing.


or a diagram how U2 is wired.
« Last Edit: March 17, 2014, 04:08:15 am by bbarry »
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #442 on: March 18, 2014, 11:08:13 pm »
 (Hello everybody, I'm new here. Searching for solutions to my TL866CS programmer I come to this place. Lots of interesting information's here. I've been reading whole thread and there's plenty of useful things. Congratulation to all contributors.
Now the problem I encounter... Reading 29F200 flash memory (sop44)...   I'm getting different read every time, also when verifying. Checked adapters and good contact, ID is all good. If I'm reading different flash memory ex 29F400 (tsop48) there's no problem. Anybody encounter this? Thanks.)


Hi I have exact the same problem with autocarg. I tried to read and write many times the flash 29F400BB sop44 but every time with different  checksum. Please any help for this problem.
Many thanks in advance.
« Last Edit: March 18, 2014, 11:11:59 pm by spiridonas »
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #443 on: March 19, 2014, 07:42:15 am »
(Hello everybody, I'm new here. Searching for solutions to my TL866CS programmer I come to this place. Lots of interesting information's here. I've been reading whole thread and there's plenty of useful things. Congratulation to all contributors.
Now the problem I encounter... Reading 29F200 flash memory (sop44)...   I'm getting different read every time, also when verifying. Checked adapters and good contact, ID is all good. If I'm reading different flash memory ex 29F400 (tsop48) there's no problem. Anybody encounter this? Thanks.)


Hi I have exact the same problem with autocarg. I tried to read and write many times the flash 29F400BB sop44 but every time with different  checksum. Please any help for this problem.
Many thanks in advance.

hi
what of type adapter you use
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #444 on: March 19, 2014, 08:40:28 am »
Hi I use this adapter please see the attachments pics my programmer is tl866a.
Thanks
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #445 on: March 19, 2014, 09:16:37 am »
Hi I use this adapter please see the attachments pics my programmer is tl866a.
Thanks

read something similar
on post 379
may by roll back to 5.91 or bad adapter

????????
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #446 on: March 19, 2014, 10:39:18 am »
I try to update to version 6 but says message fake adapter and I reflash again to 5.91 + firmware, now don't  appear message fake adapter but I can't read / write correct the flash 29f400 ( every time different checksum)
what is bad ?
1)base adapter
2) sop 44 adapter
3) programmer tl866a

Thanks
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #447 on: March 19, 2014, 11:17:27 am »
"Base adapter" if I understand you correctly. That's the one with some chips on it (your first picture, left one) is not genuine. Radioman has been working on a solution for that, but I don't know how far he has come with this.
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #448 on: March 19, 2014, 04:16:15 pm »
@spiridonas the answer is in your questions! :)
Now the problem I encounter... Reading 29F200 flash memory (sop44)...   I'm getting different read every time, also when verifying. Checked adapters and good contact, ID is all good. If I'm reading different flash memory ex 29F400 (tsop48) there's no problem.

Hi I have exact the same problem with autocarg. I tried to read and write many times the flash 29F400BB sop44 but every time with different  checksum. Please any help for this problem.
Many thanks in advance.

what is bad ?
1)base adapter
2) sop 44 adapter
3) programmer tl866a

Thanks
TL866 and base adapter can be excluded because you can read and write the TSOP48 chip variant.
Remain the sop44 adapter (might be a bad pin contact) or the memory chip itself.

"Base adapter" if I understand you correctly. That's the one with some chips on it (your first picture, left one) is not genuine. Radioman has been working on a solution for that, but I don't know how far he has come with this.
Is far enough! i have an experimental replacement firmware for that Attiny13, and also the first version of Linux version of my firmware updater is ready to be tested here:
https://github.com/radiomanV/TL866

There's no do documentation yet on how to compile but i will update the readme file soon. Who want to contribute are welcome. Thanks.
« Last Edit: March 19, 2014, 04:55:09 pm by radioman »
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #449 on: March 19, 2014, 05:49:24 pm »
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Now the problem I encounter... Reading 29F200 flash memory (sop44)...   I'm getting different read every time, also when verifying. Checked adapters and good contact, ID is all good. If I'm reading different flash memory ex 29F400 (tsop48) there's no problem. Anybody encounter this? Thanks.)

I have the same Problem with AMD 29F800BB (also SOP).
Each read generates a new checksum.
Random filled buffer is not programmable.
So maybe a general problem?

I use the Version 6.0 with V3 Adapter.

 


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