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Offline jorgemiguel4

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #850 on: February 20, 2016, 03:42:29 pm »
Thanks all for helping me

Well, I'm still trying. It's possible that I'm causing the problem but I'm not sure. ID is not the problem, it's 01 20 on every 29f010 I have.
Sector protection is also disabled on all sectors, so it can't be a problem either.

Tried today a SST 49LF002A with the same PLCC32 socket adapter and it worked right.  I  know it doesn't prove much since the required pins are not the same but...
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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #851 on: February 21, 2016, 05:18:43 pm »
Have you checked the PLCC32 adaptor pin-pin continuity? Also, have you checked the programming voltage is ok? Find the pin on the data sheet and measure it when writing.
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #852 on: February 21, 2016, 11:22:06 pm »
Hello there,
 I am newweb here, and am desperate to know how to short the pin C22 without damagin the programmer!
I appreciate uour help guys!
Thanks!
 
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #853 on: February 22, 2016, 12:48:50 am »
Have you checked the PLCC32 adaptor pin-pin continuity? Also, have you checked the programming voltage is ok? Find the pin on the data sheet and measure it when writing.

Yes, continuity checks out good in every pin. Also checked with a scope with the probe tip on eeprom legs, got "good" waveforms in every address and data pins with high side around 4volts. But found that Write Enable pin is left HIGH for some reason, from my understanding it should be low during write, maybe it's part of the problem. Any guesses?


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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #854 on: February 22, 2016, 02:02:10 am »
Somebody help me, please with post #854!!!
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #855 on: February 25, 2016, 04:22:45 pm »
Hello guys,

I own a TL866CS and for the first time i will need to read and write a ATMEGA its the ATMEGA32A  in TQFP-44 package.
What would be the best way to do it? I don't think there is a adapter is there?

Thanks!
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #856 on: February 25, 2016, 04:45:46 pm »
Hello guys,

I own a TL866CS and for the first time i will need to read and write a ATMEGA its the ATMEGA32A  in TQFP-44 package.
What would be the best way to do it? I don't think there is a adapter is there?

Thanks!

You need to convert your TL866CS in A version, and then program your atmega via ICSP connection.
Note that using this method (via ICSP) you can't programm your device in "parallel programming interface" mode, so you can't program all fuse and, if IRC, you need also an external oscillator.
Otherwise you should build an adaper and solder all the needed wires and connect them to the 40 pin programmer zif socket. Atmel...  :phew:
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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #857 on: February 25, 2016, 05:11:13 pm »
geeezz...  :-\

all because i have the atmega with a input pin in short circuit.

The idea is to copy this one to a brand new.
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #858 on: February 25, 2016, 06:44:34 pm »
Nothing complicated...
To convert the tl866 you can use radioman's tool, after that you have to solder the icsp wires and the crystal (don't forget the 22pf condensators) to the atmega and, hopefully the atmega it's not protected, you can dump & write the HEX.
With atmel you have to know the fuses because the values are not present in the main HEX.
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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #859 on: February 25, 2016, 08:44:53 pm »
I'm trying to program some am29f016b chips. It is the 48 pin tsops, I have it on a 40pin board as the 2 pins on each corner are NC.
I know that people have had success doing this as I seen in done on a foreign forum. Similiar to this picture, not mine.



 I try programming it but I keep getting errors like this one. Could anyone shed some light on what could be going wrong

 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #860 on: February 28, 2016, 11:53:45 am »
Hi,
one of the external images that you have linked randomly disappear...
BTW it's something that has to do with a console cartridge?
Have you tried to burn the chip itself alone without the dip adapter?
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #861 on: February 28, 2016, 12:53:25 pm »
Nothing complicated...
To convert the tl866 you can use radioman's tool, after that you have to solder the icsp wires and the crystal (don't forget the 22pf condensators) to the atmega and, hopefully the atmega it's not protected, you can dump & write the HEX.
With atmel you have to know the fuses because the values are not present in the main HEX.

Please give an explanation about this capacitor named above? because I want the program to reach a atmega644pa and so I do not catch on to do. I drip on board ICSP working ATMEGA. I must add this capacitor ??
« Last Edit: February 28, 2016, 01:13:49 pm by albaben »
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #862 on: February 28, 2016, 01:56:21 pm »
First i'm very sorry if my english it's not the best.
I'm even don't know very well how atmel works. But i will try to help you...

After you have TL866 "A" version you can do also ICSP programming. Select your device and click in the "set interface" menĂ¹ "ICSP port" option.
After that you can click on the information TAB and you should see the interface schematic. The capacitor that i'm talking should be added in parallel to each pin of the external crystal. 22pf are enough.

You can look at this image to show you what i'm talking about:
click me
Do you see in the left the two 22pf capacitors?

IIRC atmel need external oscillator when you use ICSP programming interface
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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #863 on: February 28, 2016, 03:15:28 pm »
HI Guys,
I need to program this chip https://ghostlyhaks.com/forum/attachment/336
Can somebody tell me why this programmer can read but not erase or write??
i have desolder the chip and i'm using this clip http://media.digikey.com/Photos/Pomona%20Photos/5250.JPG
the programmer can read it but thats it.
must i do something on the option menu?

PLEASE help!!
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #864 on: February 28, 2016, 06:35:45 pm »
HI Guys,
I need to program this chip https://ghostlyhaks.com/forum/attachment/336
Can somebody tell me why this programmer can read but not erase or write??
i have desolder the chip and i'm using this clip http://media.digikey.com/Photos/Pomona%20Photos/5250.JPG
the programmer can read it but thats it.
must i do something on the option menu?

PLEASE help!!

sorry but there is no 644pa ATMEGA 20MHz oscillator. the device that does not have all oscillator.oscillator should definitely set to be programmed?
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #865 on: February 28, 2016, 06:44:11 pm »
Do you have an icsp port on that board?
If not, you have to desolder the chip from the borard and solder the six icsp wires plus the external osc.
I'm sorry but i can help you more... Maybe without the ext osc you can program the chip the same, but i'm pretty sure you can't set some fuses  :-//
« Last Edit: February 28, 2016, 06:59:55 pm by crx991 »
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #866 on: February 28, 2016, 07:01:45 pm »
Do you have an icsp port on that board?
If not, you have to desolder the chip from the borard and solder the six icsp wires plus the external osc.
I'm sorry but i can help you more... Maybe without the ext osc you can program the chip the same, but i'm pretty sure you can't set some fuses  :-//

I've definitely. please read my post to understand the problem I have:https://www.eevblog.com/forum/blog/eevblog-411-minipro-tl866-universal-programmer-review/msg868933/#msg868933
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #867 on: February 28, 2016, 07:42:22 pm »
So you have reading problem with ICSP port of your TL866?
This comment can help you?
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #868 on: February 28, 2016, 09:22:06 pm »
I made everything okay. I checked several times. but my TL866A issued the same defect. IF unplug id button read, it seems like you are reading but not really read anything. All data are FFFFFFFFF ....... I do not understand where my problem. Is my system a 32bit Windows7

 :palm: |O |O
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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #869 on: February 28, 2016, 10:36:59 pm »
I'm sorry, but i have any other ideas...
I don't think it's a system problem, i think the problem it's in the TL866. Can you test the icsp programming with other devices like PIC mcu?
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #870 on: February 29, 2016, 08:19:24 am »
I'm sorry, but i have any other ideas...
I don't think it's a system problem, i think the problem it's in the TL866. Can you test the icsp programming with other devices like PIC mcu?

Thank you anyway for more trouble you did to help me. and I believe that the problem have only ICSP connection. while various EEPROM in the basement of tl866 I programmed several times and everything is ok. the right to say more necessary for my work I MCU programming, anyway, will owe to buy any other programmer. :popcorn:
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #871 on: March 08, 2016, 05:32:02 pm »
Hi,

Wondering if I may need to convert to TL866A ???   I am trying to ID a PLCC44 chip that has had the top numbers burnished off by the manufacturer!  :palm:

I am guessing it's an Atmel MCU, AT89C51 or the likes, but so far the TL866CS cannot deal with the Chip ID box checked during READ. Any help would be greatly appreciated. the chip was getting a Firmware update in-circuit, it went through the routine, and gave a checksum error at the end! I do have another chip I could capture the code off of, if I could correctly ID this.

Thanks in advance!
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #872 on: March 09, 2016, 04:17:36 pm »
Made a little headway...  I can read the device using Philips/Intel/NXP device 87C52 (C54) (C58). If I save it to a HEX file, and then try to program the device I get an error (can't write it). :wtf:
The Atmel parts listed are only AT prefixed, and the Atmel 87C52 series start with T. Not sure why those are not listed. I'm still betting it's an Atmel device by the looks of the Lot code / Date code that is still on the IC, compared to what I see in Google search images of Atmel PLCC44 devices. Pretty sure this is not an OTP part, since there is a rs232 port and programming switch on the chassis.
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #873 on: March 10, 2016, 08:32:05 pm »
but...  maybe it is a OTP part. Those are a much cheaper solution for the Mfg'r, but they screwed the end user if they made that decision before they shipped this product.  :-- Will find out soon enough.
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #874 on: March 14, 2016, 03:29:20 pm »
Anyone know why Atmel series AT89Cxx are not listed? Philips, Intel, SST, seem to have equivalent series listed.
Thanks in advance!
 


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