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Offline juankgp

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #525 on: June 08, 2014, 06:32:49 am »
Hi I am new in this forum, I did al proces to change my cs to A and it finished ok but I don´t work with the iscp, it is 2013 design
Please help me
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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #526 on: June 08, 2014, 06:36:22 am »
Sorry for my English
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #527 on: June 09, 2014, 08:07:52 am »
Just noticed that v 6.00 has no support for the Microchip 18f13xx or 18F14xx series of MCU's.   :(
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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #528 on: June 09, 2014, 09:25:24 am »
Just noticed that v 6.00 has no support for the Microchip 18f13xx or 18F14xx series of MCU's.   :(

Have to notice that on my xeltek and batronix newest firmwares a lot of microchip chips are not supported
May it's from microchip related
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #529 on: June 15, 2014, 01:30:36 am »
I just purchased one of these programmers (the TL866a to be more specific) and it seems that either the Device is not working properly or I am clearly not doing anything right

To begin the Device is plugged into a Win 8.1 and Driver-Minipro client work properly.

From the beginning the device Fails the self-test on GND Pin 16 (Overcurrent protection action short circuit)which could indicate an issue. I tried to program a couple of devices 27256, 27128 and I am unable to write more than 1 bytes. I can read blanks without issue.
The Device ID is almost never recognized and I have to disable check ID. I was only able to read successfully one AT27C010.

1) If the self test fails is this an indication that the device could be damaged.
2) I tried 2 different PC on all USB ports with the same results. Could the issue be with not enough power?
3) The Device comes with V600 of the Software/Firmware so looks like it is the latest and greatest.

Any thoughts?

Thanks

Mike

« Last Edit: June 15, 2014, 02:01:05 am by antiriad »
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #530 on: June 15, 2014, 01:33:31 am »
To begin the Device is plugged into a Win 8.1 and Driver-Minipro client work properly.

Found a site where someone asked about Minipro OS compatibility. They were told, "Hi, MiniPro TL866CS Universal BIOS USB Programmer can support WIN2000 / WINXP / WIN2003 / WIN2008 / WIN VISTA /WIN7 (32bITS AND 64BITS), no windows 8.1."
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #531 on: June 15, 2014, 01:37:15 am »
I'm running it on Win 8.1 and it works fine. Sounds like he has a defective unit.
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #532 on: June 15, 2014, 01:52:56 am »

1) If the self test fails is this an indication that the device could be damaged.


My guess is, yes.


3) The Device comes with V600 of the Software/Firmware so looks like it is the latest and greatest.


I can confirm that. My Software version is 6.00 and firmware is 03.2.62. Otherwise the sofware would ask to "reflash the fireware"  :P

I bought my TL866CS a couple of weeks ago. Works very well. I don't think that it consumes to much power for a usb port.

Btw... I have Win7 64bit.


2) I tried 2 different PC on all USB ports with the same results. Could the issue be with not enough power?


Both PC's with Win8? Seems that tsmith35 found the answer to your problem. Edit: Or maybe not, after DrJoe's answer.
« Last Edit: June 15, 2014, 01:55:25 am by 128er »
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #533 on: June 15, 2014, 02:02:19 am »


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Both PC's with Win8? Seems that tsmith35 found the answer to your problem. Edit: Or maybe not, after DrJoe's answer.
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Window XP and Windows 8.1. Same results
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #534 on: June 15, 2014, 07:11:21 pm »
If it's still problematic under XP, then it's probably time to get it replaced as defective.
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #535 on: June 15, 2014, 07:21:33 pm »
New to the forum,do a lot of work with ecu and immo. Mostly 93xxx , 24xxx,and 95xxx, 35xxx there was no in circuit reading till I grounded c22. Now the units is reading correctly and in some cases the bits get switch. I have notice that some chip package act different 93xxx surface mount read and writes perfect in circuit. Same chip 93xxx threw hole mount will read good but always fails on the write in circuit. If I remove the chip all is good read and writes prefect. Is there a fix to correct in circuit read and write ? Any way to adjust speed or voltage to the target chip?
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #536 on: June 17, 2014, 05:42:22 pm »
New to the forum,do a lot of work with ecu and immo. Mostly 93xxx , 24xxx,and 95xxx, 35xxx there was no in circuit reading till I grounded c22. Now the units is reading correctly and in some cases the bits get switch. I have notice that some chip package act different 93xxx surface mount read and writes perfect in circuit. Same chip 93xxx threw hole mount will read good but always fails on the write in circuit. If I remove the chip all is good read and writes prefect. Is there a fix to correct in circuit read and write ? Any way to adjust speed or voltage to the target chip?


There r not switched
8+16 bit
 

Offline Ray-Ray

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #537 on: June 17, 2014, 09:15:39 pm »
Tl866 hex editor show the dump inverted if I put it in a stand-lone hex editor the bits come up correctly.
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #538 on: June 18, 2014, 08:29:08 am »
Tl866 hex editor show the dump inverted if I put it in a stand-lone hex editor the bits come up correctly.

This happens because you read with you old programmer 8bit
Newer series are 16 bit
Specialy 93xx and 24xx
You can convert with you hex editor-change values- convert back-programm
 

Offline antiriad

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #539 on: June 18, 2014, 02:05:49 pm »
Seems this device has no support for the 27C400 EPROM or device not supported. At least for the Willem programmers the following adapter is available. http://www.keeelectronics.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=36

I am kind of wondering if this is the right device if compared to the GQ-4X Programmer. The TL866a I got from Day 1 was failing the Self-Test and might be defective. On a side note I disabled the OC Protection by shorting C22 and now most tests PASS except the OC Protection for the Vpp and Vcc. However I still cannot write in any of the standard 27C128 , 27C256, 27C512 or 27c010 EPROMS. 27C512-27C128 are not recognized and on 27C128 I can only write 1 Bytes that fails and with the wrong value.

Any thoughts about this Programmer?

Thanks

Mike
 

Offline le_stauss

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #540 on: June 22, 2014, 01:54:42 pm »
Hi,
where are you Radioman since mid-april ?
I am waiting for news from you. You are an excelent researcher//developper.
Do you try custom firmware inside the tl866 ?
keep the bootloader and load a fonctional software ?
bye
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #541 on: June 22, 2014, 04:29:47 pm »
Hi I am new in this forum, I did al proces to change my cs to A and it finished ok but I don´t work with the iscp, it is 2013 design
Please help me
Thanks

Just received my TL866CS and converted to A, but I have the same issue.

I've done some tests with several PICs and looks like the ID Check is getting different results if I plug the IC on the ZIF connector or I connect the ICSP to my target board.

The connections is correct and if I plug the PICKIT3 to the same ICSP target board everithing goes fine.

For instance, this are the ID for the following PICs:
                     ZIF         ICSP
PIC16F877A 0E2 06    039 06
PIC18LF442 025 05    001 1B
PIC18LF485 043 05    009 1B

As you can see in the attached pictures the firmware conversion looks fine (I programmed also the bootloader) and I'm able to go back to the V5.91 but notthing change.

Any suggestions?

Offline mauroh

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #542 on: June 24, 2014, 01:18:05 pm »
 :palm: It was just the pull up resistor between MCLR-VPP/VCC that was open...

Now it works like a charm with PICs and AVR in-circuit without problems.

Thank you radioman for the great hack.

Mauro
« Last Edit: July 04, 2014, 10:50:50 am by mauroh »
 

Offline rauloliv

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #543 on: June 27, 2014, 04:42:16 pm »
Hello all,

Can anyone give me a hint of whats the best way to use my tl866cs to write a NVM3060.
Is it possible at all? Its not on the supported list of course.

Regards
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #544 on: June 27, 2014, 10:47:12 pm »
Can anyone give me a hint of whats the best way to use my tl866cs to write a NVM3060.

Maybe this may help.
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #545 on: July 03, 2014, 08:06:59 am »
I am ecu remapping service in job(read/write ecus) My backup tool is MiniPro. So is there any tutorials/howto how read/write 29FX00XX chips(general used)?!?

Or just click read- erase- write -buttons with default settings?

How about others chips(in car ecu), use just default settings or what need to change?

Regards
 

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Offline Erwin Ried

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #547 on: July 30, 2014, 05:56:24 am »
I added the 'modern' style to the v6.1 and fixed few typos, replace "MiniPro.exe" with: http://cl.ly/0B0h3g1e1Q1I


My website: http://ried.cl
 

Offline Fab6657

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #548 on: August 01, 2014, 04:15:52 am »
Thank's Erwin  ;)
 

Offline richud

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #549 on: August 02, 2014, 11:32:41 am »
Hi,
I have an AT24C02  8-TSSOP (I2C) attached to a pcb/dongle with addressing lines A0 A1 and A2 all connected high to Vcc [rather than to the 'normal' floating/ground.]

I have previously tried to read/write to it with an ART UP-1 programmer but it didn't like it unless I removed the chip and left those address lines floating.

Does anyone know if the tl866 can cope with those addressing lines held high or will I have to remove the chip to do it.
Or, will I have to forget the tl866 and program via an USB-I2C interface?

Cheers for any help/suggestions!

Rich
 


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