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Offline ubistvo

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #600 on: December 21, 2014, 03:05:03 pm »
OK
Can someone help me with post #594
I just need someone who have a original adapter PSOP44 just to copy me a wire connection
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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #601 on: December 22, 2014, 06:52:48 am »
I just got around to firmware upgrading my CS to A and it appears to have worked. The problem I have is that when I start the program I get a warning before the program starts to update the firmware. Is this normal after this hack from Radioman that the software gives this warning each start? Any worries?
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #602 on: December 23, 2014, 05:08:01 pm »
OK
Can someone help me with post #594
I just need someone who have a original adapter PSOP44 just to copy me a wire connection
THANKS
Hello,

I started measuring, but because I have the socket on the PSOP44 it's not that easy (without breaking the socket) to measure it quickly (and I don't have much time).
So here's what I have currently of the left side:
Board | Flash
16 | 1
15 | 2
18 | 3
17 | 4
20 | 5
19 | 6
22 | 7
21 | 8
23 | 10
24 | 9

I also took a picture of the bottom side - so you can try to trace them by picture (the ones you posted + mine + some luck.). Sorry but I didn't have more time currently - will try to measure some next time too.
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #603 on: December 24, 2014, 10:40:25 am »
Can someone help me with post #594
I just need someone who have a original adapter PSOP44 just to copy me a wire connection

I believe this is correct:
Code: [Select]
Socket Flash Flash Socket
1 36 1 16
2 35 2 15
3 38 3 18
4 37 4 17
5 40 5 20
6 39 6 19
7 43 7 22
8 41 8 21
9 n/c 9 24
10 n/c 10 23
11 44 11 25
12 43 12 26
13 n/c 13 27
14 n/c 14 28
15 2 15 29
16 1 16 30
17 4 17 31
18 3 18 32
19 6 19 33
20 5 20 34
21 8 21 35
22 7 22 36
23 10 23 37
24 9 24 38
25 11 25 39
26 12 26 40
27 13 27 41
28 14 28 42
29 15 29 43
30 16 30 44
31 17 31 45
32 18 32 46
33 19 33 47
34 20 34 48
35 21 35 2
36 22 36 1
37 23 37 4
38 24 38 3
39 25 39 6
40 26 40 5
41 27 41 8
42 28 43 7
43 29 43 12
44 30 44 11
45 31 n/c 9
46 32 n/c 10
47 33 n/c 13
48 34 n/c 14
« Last Edit: December 26, 2014, 10:32:23 am by tsmith35 »
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #604 on: December 26, 2014, 02:11:56 am »
 :-+ Just opened one of these up today at Christmas! Can't wait to try it out.
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #605 on: January 05, 2015, 05:24:07 pm »
I have some questions regarding older TTL PROM chips. Does anyone here know if the TL866CS will read and burn (clone) an old 16pin 256x4 1024bit 45ns read TTL PROM ( the actual part# is Fairchild 93427 )? This is a ROM chip out of an old super rare 1970's digital/analog synthesizer ( Crumar DS-2 ) that is used for keyboard encoding. I couldn't find any reference that the TL866CS can read or burn a fuse link type PROM that's why I'm asking. If the TL866CS doesn't support older PROMS then what would be a cost effective alternative to easily making a cloned ROM? Thanks in advance for any replies!
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #606 on: January 05, 2015, 07:42:49 pm »
No idea about this programmer, but in general you need old stuff to program old stuff :)

The 93427 seems to be the same as the 63S141 http://www.datasheetarchive.com/dlmain/Datasheets-X2/DSA1201000687.pdf, which you should be able to program with e.g. a HiLo All07 programmer:

device list:
<<MMI>>
...
63S140/S141

I have an All07...
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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #607 on: January 05, 2015, 07:54:28 pm »
Only 256 nibbles, you can do that by hand if it is a one off, using a breadboard, a 555 timer and a regulated power supply and some switches to provide the address lines and sink the current pulses to blow the fuses. Might take an entire day, and you will need to do this in one take. Nice thing is if you need 2 you just do them in parallel.
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #608 on: January 05, 2015, 08:17:18 pm »
SeanB, based on this chart showing the 3 ROMS (A1, M1, B1) i want to clone is it possible to breadboard program each ROM with the 4 digit binary info listed or would this be too complicated? The info listed is from a guy in Italy that reversed engineered the synth I'm trying to rebuild. Do you think that the binary info listed on that chart would be what I'd see if I had a PROM reader or is there still some missing info that I'd need in order to program a new PROM with a breadboard, timer and regulated power supply? Thanks!
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-l54pFzGe9RE/UrA2wgZrR6I/AAAAAAAAAE4/STFke9NfvjU/s640/023.JPG
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SBT04-5nbLI/UrA2cG9QftI/AAAAAAAAAEg/CERyJ7XLgWg/s1600/020_crumar_ds_2_scheda_d_to_d.JPG
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #609 on: January 05, 2015, 08:41:06 pm »
I just got around to firmware upgrading my CS to A and it appears to have worked. The problem I have is that when I start the program I get a warning before the program starts to update the firmware. Is this normal after this hack from Radioman that the software gives this warning each start? Any worries?

Anyone?
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #610 on: January 06, 2015, 07:56:44 pm »
SeanB, based on this chart showing the 3 ROMS (A1, M1, B1) i want to clone is it possible to breadboard program each ROM with the 4 digit binary info listed or would this be too complicated? The info listed is from a guy in Italy that reversed engineered the synth I'm trying to rebuild. Do you think that the binary info listed on that chart would be what I'd see if I had a PROM reader or is there still some missing info that I'd need in order to program a new PROM with a breadboard, timer and regulated power supply? Thanks!
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-l54pFzGe9RE/UrA2wgZrR6I/AAAAAAAAAE4/STFke9NfvjU/s640/023.JPG
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SBT04-5nbLI/UrA2cG9QftI/AAAAAAAAAEg/CERyJ7XLgWg/s1600/020_crumar_ds_2_scheda_d_to_d.JPG

Only 44 values to address, and then you blow all 12 outputs once per address.

http://www.retrotechnology.com/dri/Signetics_82S23_prog.pdf

A link to a programmer that will allow you to build a dedicated one time use programmer. If you use 8 bit devices instead of 4 bit ones you just ignore half of the one device.
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #611 on: January 06, 2015, 08:29:31 pm »
I just got around to firmware upgrading my CS to A and it appears to have worked. The problem I have is that when I start the program I get a warning before the program starts to update the firmware. Is this normal after this hack from Radioman that the software gives this warning each start? Any worries?

Anyone?

I do not get the warning after upgrading. Are you saying that it updates the firmware each time you start the program? That's weird because an update should not be volatile.
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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #612 on: January 06, 2015, 08:51:28 pm »
It tells me that the firmware needs to be updated each time I start the software. I have a PM from someone telling me I need to update my software. I will when I return home in 2 days. I am away from home for a family visit.

I will report back.
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #613 on: January 06, 2015, 08:52:51 pm »
It tells me that the firmware needs to be updated each time I start the software.

Sounds to me you used an older update.dat file when upgrading. I see no harm in doing the update.
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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #614 on: January 07, 2015, 06:37:33 pm »
TL866cs > TL866A
thanks Radioman, thanks everyone on this forum
mine also asked for upgrade after i flashed it , pressed cancel and upgraded from radioman's
software
didnt have anything for icsp, but programmer is working normaly

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #615 on: January 08, 2015, 11:10:59 pm »
I did a complete reupdate using radioman's software tool, reinstalled the software, and all is fine. I probably had mixed software and firmware versions installed.
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #616 on: January 10, 2015, 05:25:00 am »
Please I need the datasheet W25Q64FWSIG
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #617 on: January 10, 2015, 05:27:37 am »
Please I need the datasheet W25Q64FWSIG
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #618 on: January 10, 2015, 05:32:12 am »
MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer, does not support this device, W25Q64FWSIG ,
Radioman, how can I add to the list of supported
 


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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #620 on: January 14, 2015, 05:54:22 am »
Need replacement w25q64fw, MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer can´t read or program W25Q64FW
It´s there any similar to or substitute for this newest SPI
  TL866CS don´t support W25Q64FW.Best regards ,any help
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #621 on: January 29, 2015, 03:12:09 am »
I just bought a tl866cs and im having trouble writing amd am29f400bb. it seems to read the chips ok but sometimes the read changes reading it a second time. however it always fails to program, ive tried several different chips including new ones, nothing seems to work. the only time it will program sucessfully is if I program a blank chip with a blank file. any help will be much appriciated
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #622 on: January 29, 2015, 10:31:51 am »
I just bought a tl866cs and im having trouble writing amd am29f400bb. it seems to read the chips ok but sometimes the read changes reading it a second time. however it always fails to program, ive tried several different chips including new ones, nothing seems to work. the only time it will program sucessfully is if I program a blank chip with a blank file. any help will be much appriciated
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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #623 on: January 31, 2015, 02:27:20 pm »
I'm a newbie and would appreciate your help with the miniPro TL866CS that I just recently acquired (App Software Ver 6.00; Firmware Ver 03.2.62). I can read data from pre-programmed EEPROM TI 27C512 but cannot erase it. Neither the option "Erase Before" nor "Erase Chip" is selectable. Many Thanks
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #624 on: January 31, 2015, 02:33:37 pm »
I'm a newbie and would appreciate your help with the miniPro TL866CS that I just recently acquired (App Software Ver 6.00; Firmware Ver 03.2.62). I can read data from pre-programmed EEPROM TI 27C512 but cannot erase it. Neither the option "Erase Before" nor "Erase Chip" is selectable. Many Thanks

Are you sure it's an EEPROM? Could be just an EPROM that you have to erase with UV.
If it is an EEPROM did you select EEPROM in the software or did you select EPROM?

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