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Have you purchased a PCB tool only for hobby/non-commercial use?

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Offline Janaha

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Re: Have you purchased a PCB tool only for hobby/non-commercial use
« Reply #25 on: October 07, 2013, 08:08:15 pm »
Hy.

No, i haven't purchaed a PCB tool for my hobby.

All i have seen till now are realy crippled versions of the professional versions at prices my port de monai dosen't like. Like those licenses where you only could use a couple off pins (like only 200 to 500pins or so), or you are limited by the usable PCB space (smaler than my faforite 160*100cm euro format). Only one or two sided, missing autorouter etc etc.

So i searched the internet and found those lovely tool named KiCad. It dosen't cost a cent and by now i made all my PCB designes with it. At the begining i used it only to make single sided pcb's that i also self etched. My last PCB's are mostly double sided, exported to Gerber and made for me on the other "end" of the world for a realy small price. :-)

Till now my greates hobby designed Board is a 20*20cm double sided PCB with 951 pads. It's a simple Computer made with a Atmega644p Microcontroller as it's main processor. Atachable to a TV by a SCART Connector and programmable in a simple and easy to use basic dialect. The Design is based on the work from Jörg Wolfram who invented the AVR-Chipbasic2 one- chip solution. The original can be found here http://www.jcwolfram.de/projekte/avr/chipbasic2/main.php ( only german text, sorry :-( ) I uploaded a pic of my version, so you can see the havy modded version of it.

Greetings Janaha
 

Offline railman

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Re: Have you purchased a PCB tool only for hobby/non-commercial use
« Reply #26 on: October 07, 2013, 09:46:46 pm »
Yes, I to bought a Eagle Hobbyist license. I found it to be  fair and affordable. I started out using Eagle, and I've tried Diptrace and Kicad but keep going back to Eagle.
 

Offline zorder

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Re: Have you purchased a PCB tool only for hobby/non-commercial use
« Reply #27 on: October 08, 2013, 09:11:06 pm »
I used to work with the free version of Eagle, but the pcb size limit is very restrictive. I moved to Kicad and I'm very happy with it, although there are a bunch of things that need to be improved.  :-+
 

Offline tized

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Re: Have you purchased a PCB tool only for hobby/non-commercial use
« Reply #28 on: October 10, 2013, 11:07:03 am »
Tried Eagle about three years ago and was very disappointed with the workflow. Discovered KiCad and have been using it ever since.
 

Offline delmadord

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Re: Have you purchased a PCB tool only for hobby/non-commercial use
« Reply #29 on: October 10, 2013, 05:28:15 pm »
I was using Eagle, but had some problems wit it, don't remember the details, unfortunately. Then I tried KiCAD in the Open Source spirit, but I hated the multi-step process of annotation (I believe it is the name for that). Now I am using free version of Diptrace. But I am still not sure if will I buy some tool, when the DIptrace pin limit kicks in. So far it is good.
 

Offline LaurenceW

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Re: Have you purchased a PCB tool only for hobby/non-commercial use
« Reply #30 on: October 11, 2013, 10:19:42 pm »
Am I the only person here to have bought EasyPC from Number One systems in the UK? http://www.numberone.com/

I bought the 1000 pin version a while back, and upgrade to the latest release (one comes out every year!) about every 2-3 years for around USD $100 a time.  I use it for hobby use, selling a few of the end products that result.

I think Farnell/Element14 may be offering some sort of cut-down free version of EasyPC? Not sure of the details.

I really like EasyPC (up to around V17, now). It does everything (and more) that I want in a PCB CAD package. I've never really tried anything else, so cannot compare. Like most people at the hobby level, having made the time and/or money investment in one package, I tend to stick with it!

And what's wrong with WordStar, anyway? :-// (yes, I really am that old)
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Offline jancumps

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Re: Have you purchased a PCB tool only for hobby/non-commercial use
« Reply #31 on: October 11, 2013, 10:27:55 pm »
We've been at approximately 25% since vote #4.
 

Offline Greyersting

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Re: Have you purchased a PCB tool only for hobby/non-commercial use
« Reply #32 on: October 11, 2013, 10:39:40 pm »
All I had to do was buy the boards, I had everything else I needed at home.
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Offline Maxlor

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Re: Have you purchased a PCB tool only for hobby/non-commercial use
« Reply #33 on: October 11, 2013, 11:04:01 pm »
I've been using Eagle so far. It's a reasonably unified tool and works well on Linux, so there you go. So far my skills have been well below what I can do with the free version. Once I'll surpass that, I'll probably get the hobbyist version without much hesitation. I'd probably have bought that already if their licenses carried over to the next major version, but 5.x licenses don't work for 6.x, bummer.

At work, we use both Altium and Eagle, actually. Altium is used for the high-end stuff by the guys who know how to do high-end stuff, and Eagle is used by us software guys who just need some microcontrollers to glue things together. I do see that Altium is orders of magnitude better than Eagle. But let me tell you this: one app is not enough to make me use Windows instead of some Unix-like OS. I hear the Altium guys are cooking up a hobbyist version, let's hope they at least get i working under wine, if not under *nix proper. Otherwise I'll just stick with Eagle. Might cause me a bit more work with the hardware parts, but having *nix will make it up for the software aspects.
 

Offline Garywoo

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Re: Have you purchased a PCB tool only for hobby/non-commercial use
« Reply #34 on: October 16, 2013, 03:49:23 am »
Not personally but i have huge respect for the folks that do, and if i did it as more than a hobby i would too.
 

Offline bdivi

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Re: Have you purchased a PCB tool only for hobby/non-commercial use
« Reply #35 on: October 16, 2013, 12:49:06 pm »
Eagle free - works for small projects.
Used to use Orcad/PSpice in the past but this was too much for DIY.
 


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