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Offline xenocide702

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Re: EEVblog #448 - New PICkit 4 & AVR Dragon
« Reply #25 on: April 01, 2013, 12:27:45 pm »
you actually got me to check the microchip forums.

Same, well played Dave.
 

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Re: EEVblog #448 - New PICkit 4 & AVR Dragon
« Reply #26 on: April 01, 2013, 01:00:23 pm »
Had me fooled... just like last year...  I even knew what day it was.
 

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Re: EEVblog #448 - New PICkit 4 & AVR Dragon
« Reply #27 on: April 01, 2013, 01:16:54 pm »
It maybe OK for all of you who know about this stuff, but I am even more confused now, I want to build some Amateur radio project that use  PIC chips, and I don't have a clue where to start, if this is the same pic, I'm completely bewildered, and need a darkened room to lye down in. :-//
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Re: EEVblog #448 - New PICkit 4 & AVR Dragon
« Reply #28 on: April 01, 2013, 01:23:16 pm »
 :-DD

Almost got fooled as well  :-DD

Awesome. Anyway, Dave, why don't you finish the uCalc?
It looks like a nice interesting project, I might even maybe buy one too  ;)
 

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Re: EEVblog #448 - New PICkit 4 & AVR Dragon
« Reply #29 on: April 01, 2013, 01:35:02 pm »
You got me there, fair & square
 

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Re: EEVblog #448 - New PICkit 4 & AVR Dragon
« Reply #30 on: April 01, 2013, 01:44:12 pm »
 AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH you big numpty you  trying to confuse a already confused radio ham, I'd let your tyres down if I lived over there. :-+ :D
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Re: EEVblog #448 - New PICkit 4 & AVR Dragon
« Reply #31 on: April 01, 2013, 03:03:00 pm »
I still think the 555-timer bit was your best
 

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Re: EEVblog #448 - New PICkit 4 & AVR Dragon
« Reply #32 on: April 01, 2013, 03:19:23 pm »
Programming PIC chips with an AVR Dragon. What is this sorcery.

Looks at date. Well played Dave well played.
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Re: EEVblog #448 - New PICkit 4 & AVR Dragon
« Reply #33 on: April 01, 2013, 03:40:42 pm »
This has been in the works for quite a while and there is more to it than what Dave has revealed.

The PIC firmware for the Dragon is just a temporary hack. The Dragon has been an unreliable POS and will be EOL soon. The new low cost programmer will the the PICKit4 - and it will program everything.

Microchip will soon announce (along with the PK4) a line of 8 and 16 bit PIC chips that are pin compatible with the AVR atTiny atMega and XMega chips. They will assist current Atmel customers with the transition to these new superior PIC chips. When the transition is complete, all AVR chips will go EOL and no longer be manufactured.

The AVR never met sales expectations, and this is Atmel's way out of a money losing microcontroller product segment.
 

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Re: EEVblog #448 - New PICkit 4 & AVR Dragon
« Reply #34 on: April 01, 2013, 03:51:15 pm »
Microchip will soon announce (along with the PK4) a line of 8 and 16 bit PIC chips that are pin compatible with the AVR atTiny atMega and XMega chips.

Sounds legit. Everybody knows that pinout is the only difference between PICs and AVRs :D
 

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Re: EEVblog #448 - New PICkit 4 & AVR Dragon
« Reply #35 on: April 01, 2013, 03:55:12 pm »
Microchip will soon announce (along with the PK4) a line of 8 and 16 bit PIC chips that are pin compatible with the AVR atTiny atMega and XMega chips.

Sounds legit. Everybody knows that pinout is the only difference between PICs and AVRs :D

There are some minor firmware differences. They have developed tools to deal with that. Source code will be automagically converted for you. The tools are currently a bit buggy - but I am sure it will be perfected by release time.
 

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Re: EEVblog #448 - New PICkit 4 & AVR Dragon
« Reply #36 on: April 01, 2013, 04:01:18 pm »
Not even close  :P

But nice try.
 

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Re: EEVblog #448 - New PICkit 4 & AVR Dragon
« Reply #37 on: April 01, 2013, 04:31:49 pm »
Hey Dave, you've found your calling. You should get a job for a Sydney radio station.  :scared:
 

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Re: EEVblog #448 - New PICkit 4 & AVR Dragon
« Reply #38 on: April 01, 2013, 04:47:28 pm »
Wow, this is pretty cool advancement.  8)
Just ordered a AVR Dragon Programmer online.
Can't wait to try this, once new firmware is released.
 

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Re: EEVblog #448 - New PICkit 4 & AVR Dragon
« Reply #39 on: April 01, 2013, 04:51:06 pm »
It even "leaked" to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PICKit) :-DD
 

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Re: EEVblog #448 - New PICkit 4 & AVR Dragon
« Reply #40 on: April 01, 2013, 04:53:17 pm »
Dave, you should see how many companies add you to their shitlist, haha. Keep it up!
 

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Re: EEVblog #448 - New PICkit 4 & AVR Dragon
« Reply #41 on: April 01, 2013, 06:41:56 pm »
Ah, this is old news!

Atmel development tools could always handle Microchip products.

For example, check out what chip is plugged in at the target programming socket of the AVR MCU00100 Starter Kit, which is a vintage AVR programmer initially released in 1997!


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Re: EEVblog #448 - New PICkit 4 & AVR Dragon
« Reply #42 on: April 01, 2013, 07:22:45 pm »
 :-+
Hi Dave thats a great April fools prank. You totally got me by your 555 easter egg video, may be 2 years ago. So I know how convincing you are!

but would it not be great if both companies support each others products? I am not a fanboy of  atmel or microchip i use parts from both. Still I use Atmel's MCUs more often. For the contrary the atmel parts are cheaper here then microchip! Go wonder ???

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Re: EEVblog #448 - New PICkit 4 & AVR Dragon
« Reply #43 on: April 01, 2013, 07:31:57 pm »
First, you had me.
But then I took a look at the calendar and realized it. ;D
 

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Re: EEVblog #448 - New PICkit 4 & AVR Dragon
« Reply #44 on: April 01, 2013, 08:29:54 pm »
So when is that PICKit 4 coming out then? Shame they wont be upgrading the PICKit 3 to support it, but Ill still have plenty of use for that and it was certainly cheap enough. However theyd better update the PM3 to support it because I am NOT buying a new stand alone programmer from them just to get AMTEL support!
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Re: EEVblog #448 - New PICkit 4 & AVR Dragon
« Reply #45 on: April 01, 2013, 08:46:59 pm »
Omg... I watched this video this morning (in Europe), and only just found out it was a joke :p.
Nice one Dave (except for giving me bad hope for a full day...)!

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Re: EEVblog #448 - New PICkit 4 & AVR Dragon
« Reply #46 on: April 01, 2013, 09:51:22 pm »
Nice one ;)  :bullshit:
Anyway... It's be nice if someday it happened...
 

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Re: EEVblog #448 - New PICkit 4 & AVR Dragon
« Reply #47 on: April 01, 2013, 09:54:36 pm »
God knows how many hits guys made seeking for PICKit4 :- )
 

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Re: EEVblog #448 - New PICkit 4 & AVR Dragon
« Reply #48 on: April 01, 2013, 09:57:23 pm »
It even "leaked" to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PICKit) :-DD

 :-DD indeed!
Quickly removed by the Wiki nazi's of course.
 

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Re: EEVblog #448 - New PICkit 4 & AVR Dragon
« Reply #49 on: April 01, 2013, 11:02:06 pm »
what about the green led on the avr dragon?

Perhaps he used same hole through work bench that was used for 555 trick, to power the green led?
My guess is another (off camera) USB port was used on notebook to produce the read/write results to screen on notebook.
« Last Edit: April 01, 2013, 11:06:43 pm by 6502Dude »
 


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