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Re: EEVblog #595 - World's Shittiest Camcorder: Teardown
« Reply #50 on: March 26, 2014, 12:31:25 pm »
Of course, I really only praised the designer somewhat, they did well for the constraints no doubt given to them by management and/or price point target.

Yeah, I got the impression that you were disgusted by the design constraints but impressed with what was done within them. Which I approve of :-+
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Re: EEVblog #595 - World's Shittiest Camcorder: Teardown
« Reply #51 on: March 26, 2014, 12:58:02 pm »

But stuff like, I used the word shit too many times, ok, fair enough complaint. (I don't care of course, but fair enough  ;D)

Really? I didn't notice. Maybe it's because I'm an aussie.  :-+

 
 

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Re: EEVblog #595 - World's Shittiest Camcorder: Teardown
« Reply #52 on: March 26, 2014, 01:11:45 pm »
I was not impressed with the Tagarno shot of the CMOS sensor.

It was no better than the closeup with your regular camera.

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Re: EEVblog #595 - World's Shittiest Camcorder: Teardown
« Reply #53 on: March 26, 2014, 01:13:10 pm »
I was not impressed with the Tagarno shot of the CMOS sensor.

It was no better than the closeup with your regular camera.

The point was the working distance. Try getting that with a regular camera, while also giving yourself space to solder.
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Re: EEVblog #595 - World's Shittiest Camcorder: Teardown
« Reply #54 on: March 26, 2014, 01:22:54 pm »

Wow lots of abuse for a, granted hostile (lol), humorous tear down.  I'm not forgetting the fact the only reason you tore it down was because people commented and said they wanted to see it.

I personally have 3 of these 'heaps of doggie do-do'.  Kids are a little spoiled with tech these days, I don't think this camera qualifies as a kids cam anymore (because of that).  Why do I have 3, well I knew someone who got 3 of them returned (retail) because the customer was unhappy with them...lol for $12...jeez the batteries would cost more than that...lol

These cameras are sold by a different company called Mercury here in Canada.  I have a much better made (step up version) 720p Camera from Mercury that is orders of magnitude better. I have a few of them and would consider shipping to Dave for a tear-down but I think he's had it with the vid camera tear downs. ;-)

Personally I liked the video Dave did, one exception is I would have screwed around with the boards a bit before 'bin'ing them.  And the sensor die was cool, might have kept that.  Wait a minute  >:D I could 'tear the arse'  :-+ out of one of the ones I have here lol...awesome.

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Re: EEVblog #595 - World's Shittiest Camcorder: Teardown
« Reply #55 on: March 26, 2014, 01:35:09 pm »
See Dave, that's what you get when you cultivate a bunch of delicate flowers as your viewers. They shit their pants and feel oh so insulted when you tell the truth. I wouldn't be surprised if a few reported your video to the moderators for lack of proper cuddling-up.
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Re: EEVblog #595 - World's Shittiest Camcorder: Teardown
« Reply #56 on: March 26, 2014, 01:37:10 pm »
I enjoyed the video. I do agree with the other comments, but it's not exactly a big deal.

It really is amazing that it's even possible to build a camera and sell it for $7.50.

Meanwhile, I'll head over to Mike's channel...
 

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Re: EEVblog #595 - World's Shittiest Camcorder: Teardown
« Reply #57 on: March 26, 2014, 01:37:56 pm »
I was not impressed with the Tagarno shot of the CMOS sensor.
It was no better than the closeup with your regular camera.

It would have shown up better if I actually recorded the video. It's got higher zoom and a better quality image IMO than my camera with macro lens.
Plus the insane working distance.
 

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Re: EEVblog #595 - World's Shittiest Camcorder: Teardown
« Reply #58 on: March 26, 2014, 01:38:11 pm »
Have to say I did "skip a bit brother" over the overly long ranty bits.

Personally I think it's damn incredible, you have there a perfectly functional video camera, totally solid state, with a colour LCD, for little more than pocket change, AND the internal construction didn't look half bad.

It's even more amazing that you can buy cameras which have significantly better image quality for not much more money at all.
 
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Re: EEVblog #595 - World's Shittiest Camcorder: Teardown
« Reply #59 on: March 26, 2014, 01:51:35 pm »
You did get a bit excited about the shitness of the little critter, but I agree that is was a great tear-down of what has become the standard of nowdays crapness. Good work ;)
 

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Re: EEVblog #595 - World's Shittiest Camcorder: Teardown
« Reply #60 on: March 26, 2014, 01:56:34 pm »
Video 595. Concidence ? A 595 is a shi(f)t register ...
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Re: EEVblog #595 - World's Shittiest Camcorder: Teardown
« Reply #61 on: March 26, 2014, 02:13:07 pm »
Video 595. Concidence ? A 595 is a shi(f)t register ...

Now that is an epic groaner, if i ever heard one )
 

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Re: EEVblog #595 - World's Shittiest Camcorder: Teardown
« Reply #62 on: March 26, 2014, 02:20:31 pm »
That's just how it work. You make negative commentary on expensive product and everyone on your side. You make negative commentary on cheap product and BAM, everyone lose their mind.
 

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Re: EEVblog #595 - World's Shittiest Camcorder: Teardown
« Reply #63 on: March 26, 2014, 02:37:25 pm »
If Dave wants to take me way out of my comfort zone then I just want him to know. It might amuse him and the vast majority of viewers, but I found it too far over the top. That's my honest opinion.

And fair enough too. It is simply impossible to please everyone. I get complaints whether I do an extra sweary video, or I speak the queens english and have rainbows and ponies. So it's pretty much business as usual for me, although this one has generated more than the usual complaints.
What annoys me is people who complain about stuff (either directly or implied) that I didn't mention in the video. e.g. I didn't mention that it might useful and "good value" for some people. As I've said, this wasn't a review, and wasn't the point of the video.
But stuff like, I used the word shit too many times, ok, fair enough complaint. (I don't care of course, but fair enough  ;D)

You've acknowledged that there is a market for this type of camcorder, and in my opinion that already saying it has a good side, for the right type of person. IMO that says it all. Everything else in the video is just your own opinion and rightfully so.

I enjoyed the video, especially the comment about the vaseline. xD



You did say a few nice things about it, but I guess those comments were kind of buried under a mountain of disgust that you had for it.

That's actually a very real effect I see in most videos to some degree. People get overly passionate/annoyed/disgusted about one particular thing I said, or thing I missed, or thing I got wrong etc, and they subconsciously ignore all the other stuff that kinda makes their complaint look rather silly in the big picture. There is probably a proper psychological term for it? For now, I'll call it simply being over-passionate  :-+
The same effect can manifest itself in other ways too, like complaints about my video frequency, quality, type etc.

Did I mention I get a lot of complaints daily?  ;D

That's why I usually don't bother to read all positive (five star) feedback comments on Amazon (and similar pages with a rating / feedback / comment system). Usually the very extreme (either really low or really high) ratings carry substantially less information than the more differentiated average ratings.
I think it's mostly because people get so hyped up by the new product they bought ... just like you said. Or they get so mad that they received a deffective product, but their rating isn't able to review the product itself, because it never worked in the first place.

Anyway I hope that makes sense, and keep up the good work Dave.
 

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Re: EEVblog #595 - World's Shittiest Camcorder: Teardown
« Reply #64 on: March 26, 2014, 02:52:05 pm »
my 2p worth dave...

I dont have an issue at all about what you said.

These types of product... generic no-name cheap electronics that come out of china are quite simply companies in china pumping out cheap shite because if they make it cheap enough people will just buy it, they are not expecting people to recommend them, or build a brand, they have no respect for their customer and no pride in their work.

i pity those who paid for theirs...

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Re: EEVblog #595 - World's Shittiest Camcorder: Teardown
« Reply #65 on: March 26, 2014, 03:04:18 pm »
I thought it was a good teardown, and I'm not sure why people can't see that it's an exaggeration.

note to all: If you find yourself getting upset over a youtube video then maybe you should evaluate why you're really angry and seek some help, because there is a lot more going on than a youtube video you don't like.
 

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Re: EEVblog #595 - World's Shittiest Camcorder: Teardown
« Reply #66 on: March 26, 2014, 03:26:57 pm »
[Perhaps you missed the parts where I actually praised it a few times?
Got to say I don't quite understand why so many people don't get what this video was about it :-//

Dave, having a 7$ products like this is in the market is a valid proposition and the engineering that was done to achieve it is sound so I don't understand why you chose the harsh negative angle. Frankly, the bang for the buck here is actually very impressive, way more than the $70 current to voltage amplifier that you proudly sell.

It's ok to put down clear bad design decisions, unsafe products or snake oil but this is not the case here, it's a fine product.
 

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Re: EEVblog #595 - World's Shittiest Camcorder: Teardown
« Reply #67 on: March 26, 2014, 03:33:51 pm »
Personally I think it's damn incredible, you have there a perfectly functional video camera, totally solid state, with a colour LCD, for little more than pocket change, AND the internal construction didn't look half bad.

This Chinese camera costs less than a Chinese lunch around here and is way better quality.  ;-)
 

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« Reply #68 on: March 26, 2014, 05:14:09 pm »
Remove LCD and leds to put in parts box, smash rest with hammer.
Given what sparkfun and the like want for a small LCD you've still got your $7.50 worth.
 

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« Reply #69 on: March 26, 2014, 05:49:09 pm »
It's interesting to contrast the difference in this video with say the old Agilent OLED multimeter video.
I coped a whole heap of abuse for giving the thumbs up to a really nice Agilent multimeter with basically only one major flaw (battery life). And then in the follow-up video I coped even more abuse for defending the fact that products have their niches.
And now I got a whole heap of abuse for calling a crap product crap, in a teardown that was meant to be humorous and wasn't a review, and not mentioning that products have their niches.
 :-//

Welcome to the world of the video blogger where it is impossible to win...   |O

You are absolutely right but I must say there was a lot of 'hate' in the video and that made it one of the least nice ones to view. I think thats a little thing to keep in mind in the future. A lot of people like your enthousiasm a lot(!) but not if its only negative.

But don't let it get u worked up and just keep up the very good work u are doing! U sir, are a bosss!
 

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« Reply #70 on: March 26, 2014, 05:52:17 pm »
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It would have shown up better if I actually recorded the video. It's got higher zoom and a better quality image IMO than my camera with macro lens.
Plus the insane working distance.

How do they get that fantastic working distance? Is it down to Barlow lenses? I have only used such with my telescope. My microscopes have a very poor working distance, they are only good enough for slides.
 

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Re: EEVblog #595 - World's Shittiest Camcorder: Teardown
« Reply #71 on: March 26, 2014, 06:38:07 pm »
.. But don't let it get u worked up and just keep up the very good work u are doing! U sir, are a bosss!

+1

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Re: EEVblog #595 - World's Shittiest Camcorder: Teardown
« Reply #72 on: March 26, 2014, 07:15:07 pm »
+1 and a big  :-+ from me, Dave. I really liked the almost over the top irony. And even when you go to lengths to make sure the world knows how shitty this camera is you still cannot hide that you are actually a bit surprised/impressed by the electronics built quality.

I had quite a few laughs while watching it. I don't get it why people are getting so worked up about the content  :-//. It's just for show people. Then again maybe Aussies, like us Dutchies are too direct/straight and regarded as blunt by most other cultures? Had quite some misunderstandings related to that myself.
 

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Re: EEVblog #595 - World's Shittiest Camcorder: Teardown
« Reply #73 on: March 26, 2014, 07:27:43 pm »
Fair enough comments on the camcorder, sans the overly ranty bits.

Now do the right thing, and do a teardown on your regular cam :). Could make for an interesting comparison.
 

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Re: EEVblog #595 - World's Shittiest Camcorder: Teardown
« Reply #74 on: March 26, 2014, 08:29:47 pm »
I think the main target market is R/C hobbyists. No big deal if you lose or break the camera.
640x480 resolution and OpenCV image recognition software could change this thing into usable one  if used 2 in... stereo mode maybe even for humans recognition  8)
It has small power requirements I guess, so those main 2 PCBs could be usable in DIY.
Just developing inteligent tennis ball machine in spare time and... maybe this camcorder it is a garbage, but sometimes high resolution is not required and OpenCV post processing can extract in real time what we are looking for in live images, so it was cool to see what is inside this camcorder while electronics is not so old and it looks like it could be easy to hack it  >:D
Just wondering how much does it weight without this LCD display and battery pack-main board and this front pannel image sensor PCBs only?
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