maybe relevant:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/173169/faq_ftc_blog_endorsement_rules.html (http://www.pcworld.com/article/173169/faq_ftc_blog_endorsement_rules.html)
Anyone have any ideas where this would be a better choice than a raspberrypi or arduino?
When turning the leds on and off, how fast did it react?
Why can't these devices simply serve by themselves ?
My frustration with a lot of these ioT thingies is that they always rely on a third party service or server. Some of em charge money, that's a problem. Bigger problem is :what if that server goes down ? Or the host goes bankrupt. It's game over !
Why can't these devices simply serve by themselves ?
I did a blinky here . mostly to verify the Launchpad arm-gcc tc
http://forum.stellarisiti.com/topic/1888-ek-tm4c1294xl-the-first-blinky-with-gcc/ (http://forum.stellarisiti.com/topic/1888-ek-tm4c1294xl-the-first-blinky-with-gcc/)
Template from here
https://github.com/uctools/tiva-template (https://github.com/uctools/tiva-template)
/Bingo
Anyone have any ideas where this would be a better choice than a raspberrypi or arduino?Its different beast, not sure about rpi, but to arduino, its has an arduino fork called Energia -> (Energia link (http://forum.stellarisiti.com/forum/63-energia/)).
are these dev boards open hardware?
I was a little surprised to see the 0.1 amp current draw, but that was with several LED's on. I was hoping to build a battery-powered data server.
Dave, you seem 'on edge' during this video. Not a criticism, just hoping everything is OK with you.
2) When evaluating this it is important to differentiate between the hardware and the free demo software that ships with it. The demo software is intended to be just that, not a ready for prime time application. Remember that TI provides multiple, free development tools and one is free to build their own applications and use whatever sort of host (including self hosting) that one likes. Also you are not limited to TI development tools, you can use GNU for example.
Anyone have any ideas where this would be a better choice than a raspberrypi or arduino?
are these dev boards open hardware?
Yes
http://upverter.com/measley/0d83e4f8eaaa6a7b/EK-TM4C1294XL-REV-D/ (http://upverter.com/measley/0d83e4f8eaaa6a7b/EK-TM4C1294XL-REV-D/)
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But I suspect most are going to try the out of box demo and IoT to get it up and running, and I don't think it's too much to expect it to work flawlessly in that regard.
Ok. One question, is this platform totally dependent on their web service or can I put my own up.
I have visions of a fickle oem deciding to just stop providing the service because they decide it was not profitable anymore.
1) The price is excellent in my opinion - TI sells it for $20 US and ships for free virtually anywhere in the world. Where else can you get any sort of micro-controller with a built in Ethernet port for $20 delivered?
Once solution would be using open protocols and server software so you can run yourself or pick from one of N service providers, with the ability to redirect your device when you move to a different service (e.g. by modifying your DNS records). Another solution is to use closed cloud system from a large and stable vendor that is much less likely to close shop.
1) The price is excellent in my opinion - TI sells it for $20 US and ships for free virtually anywhere in the world. Where else can you get any sort of micro-controller with a built in Ethernet port for $20 delivered?
The pricing is in fact so good that I've already noticed a joker on eBay (re)selling the same board for more than twice the price (plus postage!)
maybe relevant:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/173169/faq_ftc_blog_endorsement_rules.html (http://www.pcworld.com/article/173169/faq_ftc_blog_endorsement_rules.html)
No, it's not, because:
a) I bought it.
b) I not a Yank, FTC rules mean squat.
Dave, you seem 'on edge' during this video. Not a criticism, just hoping everything is OK with you.
Once solution would be using open protocols and server software so you can run yourself or pick from one of N service providers, with the ability to redirect your device when you move to a different service (e.g. by modifying your DNS records). Another solution is to use closed cloud system from a large and stable vendor that is much less likely to close shop.
1) The price is excellent in my opinion - TI sells it for $20 US and ships for free virtually anywhere in the world. Where else can you get any sort of micro-controller with a built in Ethernet port for $20 delivered?same place you get half of your products from, China.
Once solution would be using open protocols and server software so you can run yourself or pick from one of N service providers, with the ability to redirect your device when you move to a different service (e.g. by modifying your DNS records). Another solution is to use closed cloud system from a large and stable vendor that is much less likely to close shop.
Jabber
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XMPP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XMPP)
Its not perfect, but it is open and decentralized
Once solution would be using open protocols and server software so you can run yourself or pick from one of N service providers, with the ability to redirect your device when you move to a different service (e.g. by modifying your DNS records). Another solution is to use closed cloud system from a large and stable vendor that is much less likely to close shop.
Jabber
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XMPP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XMPP)
Its not perfect, but it is open and decentralized
Rasz, can you please provide links where the stuff you claim is $5-$10 can be purchased (in the form of a preprogrammed fully working board, not individual chips).
Thanks.
sure, how about $2? of maybe $0.5? do you have problem reading quoted text? _$20_ was right there :)
sure, how about $2? of maybe $0.5? do you have problem reading quoted text? _$20_ was right there :)
You seem to be having difficulties reading your own post, you moron.
but ok, half the discussed price:
*snip*
Thats it, at least Im not alone. I read it as 'lets get over with this garbage as fast as possible"
about #2 tho, US law applies to everyone, those who disagree get shot/kidnapped/liberated. Besides Google is US based and they will force everyone to disclose, at the very least by adding 'flag as concealed paid endorsement' option and deleting flagged clips.
but ok, half the discussed price:
*snip*
None of those items are ready to use bareboard development boards with documentation, support (manufacturer, community, market longevity etc), compatible compiler tools, defined I/O expansion with headers and add-on boards etc.
You can't just compare closed consumer junk with a dev board, not even close to being the same thing.
iot is supposed to be milions-to-billions of devices around us (according to iot believers). I find it hilarious how someone at TI sold managements on the idea of shipping million of those chips at $12 a pop, because IoT, and teh cloud, and flying cars! Nxp, freescale, st all have products at 1/3 the price already on the market.
Err, you're complaining about the retail price of one chip, through distribution, being too high to use in a millions+ rollout?
If only there was some kind of a bulk discount...
Low volume prices , in my experience, seem to be no indication of proper supported volume prices.
Edit: I'm not saying this is the one chip to rule them all(tm) -just that $12 is irrelevant. And it's very, very nice to have a full Ether interface without needing a PHY.
It depends on what you want.
3) Compared to Arduinos and Raspberry PIs which ship in the millions this is a relatively obscure platform; you should not expect to find a large community and lots of online support for this product. The ecosystem is very small compared to Arduinos and PIs.
Is there any incentive to develop your own PCB to use this chip if you can get this complete package for such little difference?
My frustration with a lot of these ioT thingies is that they always rely on a third party service or server. Some of em charge money, that's a problem. Bigger problem is :what if that server goes down ? Or the host goes bankrupt. It's game over !
Why can't these devices simply serve by themselves ?
IF (Comparision IS TRUE)
THEN (enter event)
UNTIL (Comparision IS NOT TRUE
erm, competition is pushing similarly configured arm M4's at $4 in single quantities, and just like you said it only goes down from there.
I have a couple of these boards and like them. I think there are a couple of points worth noting:
1) The price is excellent in my opinion - TI sells it for $20 US and ships for free virtually anywhere in the world. Where else can you get any sort of micro-controller with a built in Ethernet port for $20 delivered?
How about Freescale's FRDM-K64F? It's slightly pricier at just over $30, but it also seems to come with a lot more. SD card connector, accelerometer, DAC, etc.
There are several free software tool options and generally is very easy to get started. As a bonus, Arduino form factor compatible so you can tag on a lot of other peripheral boards.
Is there any incentive to develop your own PCB to use this chip if you can get this complete package for such little difference?
Of course, if you need to have your own custom design/product.
Let me know if I missed anything.
How about the XMPP usage on the TI chronos, wouldn't that use TCP over SSL? Is it available to the Launchpad as well?