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Re: EEVblog #656 - Auction Score
« Reply #50 on: August 22, 2014, 09:03:08 pm »
At 20:05  Dave is showing the front cover and it says Infinium on it instead of Infiniium
Did the early HP versions got spelled with one  "i" instead of the double "ii"?
Yes. My HP Infinium is spelled with one "i" on both the cover and the scope itself.
 

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« Reply #51 on: August 22, 2014, 09:05:24 pm »
why do you need so many repeat units?

It was 5 PSU's in one lot.

It just doesn't look good Dave. I'm sure there were a lot of young players who would have loved not to have been out bid by a guy who gets his equipment for free.
 

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« Reply #52 on: August 22, 2014, 09:09:20 pm »
why do you need so many repeat units?

It was 5 PSU's in one lot.

It just doesn't look good Dave. I'm sure there were a lot of young players who would have loved not to have been out bid by a guy who gets his equipment for free.

Fortunately those young players got several hundred hours of free electronics videos instead.
 

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« Reply #53 on: August 22, 2014, 11:00:47 pm »
It just doesn't look good Dave. I'm sure there were a lot of young players who would have loved not to have been out bid by a guy who gets his equipment for free.

And why would a youngster be bidding on a lot of 5 x DC system PSU's?
 

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Re: EEVblog #656 - Auction Score
« Reply #54 on: August 22, 2014, 11:06:56 pm »
why do you need so many repeat units?

It was 5 PSU's in one lot.

It just doesn't look good Dave. I'm sure there were a lot of young players who would have loved not to have been out bid by a guy who gets his equipment for free.

"You have something, therefore, you shouldn't have other things."

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Re: EEVblog #656 - Auction Score
« Reply #55 on: August 22, 2014, 11:33:14 pm »
It just doesn't look good Dave. I'm sure there were a lot of young players who would have loved not to have been out bid by a guy who gets his equipment for free.

And why would a youngster be bidding on a lot of 5 x DC system PSU's?

You are right. Youngsters don't need quality equipment. But then they also don't need the good advice you have provided in your videos either in that case.

It's your lab dude, you can hoard all you want. I just think its incongruous with your current philanthropic image portrayed by your educational videos and some (not necessarily me) may see it as a suspicious contradiction.


 

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« Reply #56 on: August 22, 2014, 11:54:31 pm »
I just think its incongruous with your current philanthropic image portrayed by your educational videos and some (not necessarily me) may see it as a suspicious contradiction.
What philanthropic image?  - Dave does this stuff for a living, and part of that is buying & selling test gear.
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Re: EEVblog #656 - Auction Score
« Reply #57 on: August 22, 2014, 11:57:26 pm »
I just think its incongruous with your current philanthropic image portrayed by your educational videos and some (not necessarily me) may see it as a suspicious contradiction.
What philanthropic image?  - Dave does this stuff for a living, and part of that is buying & selling test gear.

"So if you like the blog, and want to see more and better content, and help encourage unique content creation in this industry then feel free to sign up for a regular recurring PayPal amount of whatever you chose. Even if you sign up for $2/month, which is less than half the price of a good cup of coffee once a month, if enough people do this then I can keep the blog as a full time gig."

anyway thats enough Im saying on the subject.
 

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« Reply #58 on: August 23, 2014, 12:33:43 am »
You are right. Youngsters don't need quality equipment.

Don't put words into my mouth.

Fact is youngsters are almost certainly not going to bid on a bulk lot of 5 system PSU's.
By your reckoning I should never ever be allowed to bid any any piece of 2nd hand test equipment ever again (be it ebay or whatever), lest I rob some youngster of an opportunity  ::)
That is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard.

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It's your lab dude, you can hoard all you want. I just think its incongruous with your current philanthropic image portrayed by your educational videos and some (not necessarily me) may see it as a suspicious contradiction.

You can think anything you want, but I certainly don't agree, and quite frankly you are in no position to tell me what I should and should not buy with my money.
By me buying and selling 2nd hand gear (as I've always done for a hobby, and now you are telling me I can no longer do as a hobby)
a) Gives me material for the blog. i.e those youngsters get to see inside gear they likely may never be able to afford (hint, this stuff was not cheap)
b) Gives me some extra income that keeps me in business
c) Occasionally gives me some cheap-ish stuff to give away to said youngsters

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« Reply #59 on: August 23, 2014, 12:39:18 am »
"So if you like the blog, and want to see more and better content, and help encourage unique content creation in this industry then feel free to sign up for a regular recurring PayPal amount of whatever you chose. Even if you sign up for $2/month, which is less than half the price of a good cup of coffee once a month, if enough people do this then I can keep the blog as a full time gig."

anyway thats enough Im saying on the subject.

What is your point here? You think I have no right to ask for donations?  :-//
 

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Re: EEVblog #656 - Auction Score
« Reply #60 on: August 23, 2014, 12:44:49 am »
It just doesn't look good Dave. I'm sure there were a lot of young players who would have loved not to have been out bid by a guy who gets his equipment for free.

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Re: EEVblog #656 - Auction Score
« Reply #61 on: August 23, 2014, 12:48:24 am »
"So if you like the blog, and want to see more and better content, and help encourage unique content creation in this industry then feel free to sign up for a regular recurring PayPal amount of whatever you chose. Even if you sign up for $2/month, which is less than half the price of a good cup of coffee once a month, if enough people do this then I can keep the blog as a full time gig."

anyway thats enough Im saying on the subject.

What is your point here? You think I have no right to ask for donations?  :-//


like I said I dont care what you do with your money, who is putting words into whose mouth now?
what I AM saying is that it does not look good. If you cant see why then I can't help you.





 

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« Reply #62 on: August 23, 2014, 12:49:38 am »
what I AM saying is that it does not look good. You probably cant see why?

None of us can. You sound nuts.
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Re: EEVblog #656 - Auction Score
« Reply #63 on: August 23, 2014, 12:58:14 am »
What is your point here? You think I have no right to ask for donations?  :-//

like I said I dont care what you do with your money, who is putting words into whose mouth now?
what I AM saying is that it does not look good. If you cant see why then I can't help you.

Your inability to answer the question is duly noted.
I'm not putting words into your mouth. You have made it very clear that I should not be buying any 2nd hand gear.
I can see why you think that, but I think you are demonstrably wrong, and have explained why I continue to do so.

Facts are this:
1) My buying some 2nd hand gear is borderline insignificant in the scheme of the number of people who are doing this. You'd be very hard pressed to prove that I deprived a youngster of some gear.

2) My providing videos about this gear unquestionably and demonstrably helps youngsters.

3) Buying and selling this gear provides some income to help me stay in business so I can provide that free content to youngsters.

4) My buying this gear provides me a cheap-ish way to give back free equipment to youngsters which I occasionally do. The other month I gave away two scopes for free to youngsters. That was under the radar, no publicity at all, but now you are forcing me to defend myself so I'll bring it up.


So how exactly does your argument stand up against those facts?
 

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Re: EEVblog #656 - Auction Score
« Reply #64 on: August 23, 2014, 12:58:42 am »


What is your point here? You think I have no right to ask for donations?  :-//
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There some serious misunderstanding going both ways I think.

1. the Donations thing was not to you but to the other fella who claimed you only buy/sell for a living. I was showing that not to be the case thats all.
2. Donations perfectly legitimate. I have donated and still continue to donate  - mostly because I appreciate the education I get.
3. Buying / selling gear is perfectly legitimate for anyone including yourself.
4. Buying and selling gear for a living while accepting donations for your educational video's MAY (does to me) look suspicious IF you are buying 5 power supplies. Because at those quantities it looks like donations are supporting your buying/selling business rather than the actual educational videos.
5. To make it as clear as filthy mud, I am absolutely NOT saying you should stop buying/selling, buy/sell less stuff, buy/sell other stuff, leave the planet, grow a beard or get a sex change.
6. I AM suggesting to you - as what was meant to be a simple suggestion without malice or offense- that if you buy large quantities of the same item at auction you may want to at least not tell the world about it if you want to keep donations coming in and Yes I know many of you wont understand why but trust me the youngsters will. - this is especially true if you get a lot of your equipment for free these days.

I dont know why this is so hard to understand or where the confussion is coming from.
 

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« Reply #65 on: August 23, 2014, 01:10:25 am »
What is your point here? You think I have no right to ask for donations?  :-//

like I said I dont care what you do with your money, who is putting words into whose mouth now?
what I AM saying is that it does not look good. If you cant see why then I can't help you.

Your inability to answer the question is duly noted.
I'm not putting words into your mouth. You have made it very clear that I should not be buying any 2nd hand gear.
I can see why you think that, but I think you are demonstrably wrong, and have explained why I continue to do so.

Facts are this:
1) My buying some 2nd hand gear is borderline insignificant in the scheme of the number of people who are doing this. You'd be very hard pressed to prove that I deprived a youngster of some gear.

2) My providing videos about this gear unquestionably and demonstrably helps youngsters.

3) Buying and selling this gear provides some income to help me stay in business so I can provide that free content to youngsters.

4) My buying this gear provides me a cheap-ish way to give back free equipment to youngsters which I occasionally do. The other month I gave away two scopes for free to youngsters. That was under the radar, no publicity at all, but now you are forcing me to defend myself so I'll bring it up.


So how exactly does your argument stand up against those facts?

perception dude. Facts and logic have little effect on perception thats why advertising works you know that already.

again I am only saying "it doesnt look good".
 

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« Reply #66 on: August 23, 2014, 01:11:59 am »
again I am only saying "it doesnt look good".

We understand what you're saying - you're just the only one who thinks it.
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Re: EEVblog #656 - Auction Score
« Reply #67 on: August 23, 2014, 01:13:57 am »
again I am only saying "it doesnt look good".
We understand what you're saying - you're just the only one who thinks it.

I suspect so, yes!
 

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« Reply #68 on: August 23, 2014, 01:20:25 am »
again I am only saying "it doesnt look good".
We understand what you're saying - you're just the only one who thinks it.

I suspect so, yes!

On this forum sure. Because everyone here is already a Dave fan.
 

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« Reply #69 on: August 23, 2014, 01:21:52 am »
4. Buying and selling gear for a living while accepting donations for your educational video's MAY (does to me) look suspicious IF you are buying 5 power supplies. Because at those quantities it looks like donations are supporting your buying/selling business rather than the actual educational videos.

So what would you rather me do with the money instead of buying gear so I can produce videos about that gear?

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5. To make it as clear as filthy mud, I am absolutely NOT saying you should stop buying/selling

But you think I should stop, because it "looks bad". Same thing.

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6. I AM suggesting to you - as what was meant to be a simple suggestion without malice or offense- that if you buy large quantities of the same item at auction you may want to at least not tell the world about it if you want to keep donations coming in

So you think I should use that money instead to do something else that does not provide the blog with content?
How is that better exactly?

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Yes I know many of you wont understand why but trust me the youngsters will. - this is especially true if you get a lot of your equipment for free these days.

I understand, but I think you are wrong.
And I don't have to take your word for it, because youngsters tell me every day what they don't and don't like.
You are the very first ever in 5 years of me doing this to say it looks bad me buying 2nd hand gear.
The numbers who have complemented me on my auction and other 2nd hand gears videos would be in the hundreds, maybe the thousands.

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I dont know why this is so hard to understand or where the confussion is coming from.

There is no confusion. You are saying what I am doing looks bad and you don't think I should be doing it.
I think you are demonstrably wrong.
 

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Re: EEVblog #656 - Auction Score
« Reply #70 on: August 23, 2014, 01:24:08 am »
On this forum sure. Because everyone here is already a Dave fan.

Nope. By email, on the blog, on twitter, on youtube, you are the first ever that I can recall who thinks me doing this is a bad look.
 

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Re: EEVblog #656 - Auction Score
« Reply #71 on: August 23, 2014, 01:33:42 am »
On this forum sure. Because everyone here is already a Dave fan.

Nope. By email, on the blog, on twitter, on youtube, you are the first ever that I can recall who thinks me doing this is a bad look.

exactly
no one will tell you they think you are disingenuous, you wont hear from them at all.

When I donate I am usually careful. I dont like being taken for a ride. If I suspect a person or organization is using my donation to support their hobby or to start some crazy business I go nuts. Im sure others are the same - at least those who frequently donate.

as for the above about me saying shouldn't buy stuff to tear down, obviously you haven't understood me at all.

to come at this from another angle.
1. Keep the tear downs coming because I find them usefull comparisons when I design my own things.
2. Do whatever you have to do to support yourself and your family (legal and ethical ofcourse)
3. I suggest you may be missing out on a world of donations that you arent at all aware of.


 

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Re: EEVblog #656 - Auction Score
« Reply #72 on: August 23, 2014, 01:39:59 am »
On this forum sure. Because everyone here is already a Dave fan.

Nope. By email, on the blog, on twitter, on youtube, you are the first ever that I can recall who thinks me doing this is a bad look.

exactly
no one will tell you they think you are disingenuous, you wont hear from them at all.

Horseshit. People argue with Dave all the time here, I've probably done it before. I definitely don't agree with everything he ever says or does. I just think you're nutso.
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Re: EEVblog #656 - Auction Score
« Reply #73 on: August 23, 2014, 01:43:19 am »
On this forum sure. Because everyone here is already a Dave fan.

Nope. By email, on the blog, on twitter, on youtube, you are the first ever that I can recall who thinks me doing this is a bad look.

exactly
no one will tell you they think you are disingenuous, you wont hear from them at all.

Horseshit. People argue with Dave all the time here, I've probably done it before. I definitely don't agree with everything he ever says or does. I just think you're nutso.

that's not nice.
 

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« Reply #74 on: August 23, 2014, 01:49:39 am »
exactly
no one will tell you they think you are disingenuous, you wont hear from them at all.

Again, demonstrably wrong.
I get emails and comments daily, day in day out, 365 days a year about how I'm disingenuous, wrong, an arsehole, shouldn't do this, should do this and that.
Every youtuber does once you reach a certain level.
I even get death threats.

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When I donate I am usually careful. I dont like being taken for a ride. If I suspect a person or organization is using my donation to support their hobby or to start some crazy business I go nuts. Im sure others are the same - at least those who frequently donate.

Quite a few people decide to stop donating because of something I said or did, or didn't do etc, and that's just fine.

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3. I suggest you may be missing out on a world of donations that you arent at all aware of.

Thanks, but no, I'm not, I'm pretty darn sure you are the only one, or one of a very few who think this.
 


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