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Offline mxmarek

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Re: EEVblog #669 - FLIR TG165 Thermal Imager Teardown
« Reply #50 on: October 02, 2014, 01:45:12 pm »
Maybe the PIR sensor lens is screwed with that black aluminum tube from the front?
I'm curious how it looks from the inside side
 

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Re: EEVblog #669 - FLIR TG165 Thermal Imager Teardown
« Reply #51 on: October 02, 2014, 04:27:03 pm »
It is a lens aasembly that has the front IR cover, a plasric fresnel lens, a pinhole to set the focus and field of view and then the sensor. All the optics are assembled, then held for alignment with screws. After setting and verification of alignment the whole lot is painted with a glue and a solvent, to weld the plastic parts together into a single part so they do not drift or come loose with time or vibration. Screws are for preliminary alignment, the actual holding is with solvent welding on the lens tube itself, and with black rubber reinforced cyanacuralate glue on the actual laser diode holders and the lens alignment tube. That stuff will not let go, the plastic will always fail first, it is not possible to undo that. You can see the bloom from the glue and the remains of the accelerator used to get a fast cure on the parts.
 

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Re: EEVblog #669 - FLIR TG165 Thermal Imager Teardown
« Reply #52 on: October 02, 2014, 05:03:12 pm »
I'm curious if there were screws behind the plastic that surrounds the buttons and protects the screen
 

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Re: EEVblog #669 - FLIR TG165 Thermal Imager Teardown
« Reply #53 on: October 02, 2014, 06:04:58 pm »
Yes there are, you just heat the screen up gently and it will release. Just like the Ifixit smartphone repair videos where you warm up the broken screen or touch panel to remove it.
 

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Re: EEVblog #669 - FLIR TG165 Thermal Imager Teardown
« Reply #54 on: October 02, 2014, 09:20:10 pm »
It's become obvious to me that Dave needs some additional 'lab tools'...

1: An oxy-acetylene set (with a flame cutter tip of course)
2: A decent sledgehammer (preferably one with so much mass in the head that it's exceedingly difficult to even LIFT the darned thing)
3: Several containers of assorted universal solvents - Some HF acid would have helped a lot in getting access to those pesky screws behind the screen... Simply DISSOLVE the damned screen!)
4: Some bigger drill bits (Starting from 25mm and working UP from there in 25mm increments)
5: A 'portable' jackhammer
6: An assortment of explosives - Dynamite, ANNM and more (Optional addition solely for the BEST labs)
7: Possibly a slight 'upgrade' to the labs first aid kit???  <Given the above tools it seems logical>

Of course, any self respecting DECENT lab would ALREADY have access to an array of such tools. 

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Re: EEVblog #669 - FLIR TG165 Thermal Imager Teardown
« Reply #55 on: October 02, 2014, 09:32:10 pm »
..and an X-Ray machine
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Re: EEVblog #669 - FLIR TG165 Thermal Imager Teardown
« Reply #56 on: October 02, 2014, 09:57:02 pm »
Well perhaps Dave could have put the TG165 into his reflow oven (set at only 120°F or so) and then used his Flir E8 to find the hot screws?  At that point the Gorilla Glass might have popped off too.  Hindsight is always crystal clear.
 

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Re: EEVblog #669 - FLIR TG165 Thermal Imager Teardown
« Reply #57 on: October 02, 2014, 11:14:04 pm »
OT but interesting....

The FLIR MUON has arrived !

http://www.asianmilitaryreview.com/flir-releases-new-oem-thermal-imaging-core-muon/

http://www.flir.com/cvs/cores/view/?id=64979

Its another miniaturised TIC core but with medium or high resolution available. Things are certainly moving very fast on the core miniaturisation front.

Aurora
« Last Edit: October 02, 2014, 11:17:36 pm by Aurora »
 

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Re: EEVblog #669 - FLIR TG165 Thermal Imager Teardown
« Reply #58 on: October 03, 2014, 01:41:13 am »
3: Several containers of assorted universal solvents - Some HF acid would have helped a lot in getting access to those pesky screws behind the screen... Simply DISSOLVE the damned screen!)
I think that would just damage his flesh and bones, while leaving the the screen intact, as HF is mostly bad at dissolving plastics.
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Re: EEVblog #669 - FLIR TG165 Thermal Imager Teardown
« Reply #59 on: October 03, 2014, 04:22:39 am »
..and an X-Ray machine

That takes all the fun out of guessing  :--
 

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Re: EEVblog #669 - FLIR TG165 Thermal Imager Teardown
« Reply #60 on: October 03, 2014, 06:54:46 am »
OT but interesting....

The FLIR MUON has arrived !

http://www.asianmilitaryreview.com/flir-releases-new-oem-thermal-imaging-core-muon/

http://www.flir.com/cvs/cores/view/?id=64979

Its another miniaturised TIC core but with medium or high resolution available. Things are certainly moving very fast on the core miniaturisation front.

Aurora
They only made it to mock Mike for his latest video. ^-^
 

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Re: EEVblog #669 - FLIR TG165 Thermal Imager Teardown
« Reply #61 on: October 03, 2014, 07:30:04 am »
The FLIR MUON has arrived !
They only made it to mock Mike for his latest video. ^-^
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The Muon was released a month ago!
http://www.newzealandsecurity.co.nz/press-releases/flir-releases-new-oem-thermal-imaging-core-muon%E2%84%A2
 

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Re: EEVblog #669 - FLIR TG165 Thermal Imager Teardown
« Reply #62 on: October 03, 2014, 08:25:41 am »
Muon looks like it's based on the same packaging used on the Ex.
Someone from Flir emailed me to tell me about it, but my suggestion that a sample would be nice fell on deaf ears...!
 
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Re: EEVblog #669 - FLIR TG165 Thermal Imager Teardown
« Reply #63 on: October 05, 2014, 03:49:36 am »
Dude, that was hard to watch.   :palm:

Next Flir teardown, just smash it open with a hammer and get it over with faster.
 

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Re: EEVblog #669 - FLIR TG165 Thermal Imager Teardown
« Reply #64 on: October 05, 2014, 05:46:41 am »
Funny because if you put your cursor over the emoticon it says Grin  :-//
 

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Re: EEVblog #669 - FLIR TG165 Thermal Imager Teardown
« Reply #65 on: October 05, 2014, 06:26:37 am »
Funny because if you put your cursor over the emoticon it says Grin  :-//
Over which emoticon? As far as I can see, this is Grin:  ;D and this is Azn: ^-^
You must have been holding the cursor over the wrong one.
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Re: EEVblog #669 - FLIR TG165 Thermal Imager Teardown
« Reply #66 on: October 05, 2014, 06:44:21 am »
So I did  :palm:
 

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Re: EEVblog #669 - FLIR TG165 Thermal Imager Teardown
« Reply #67 on: October 05, 2014, 09:37:17 am »
The FLIR MUON has arrived !
They only made it to mock Mike for his latest video. ^-^

The Muon was released a month ago!
http://www.newzealandsecurity.co.nz/press-releases/flir-releases-new-oem-thermal-imaging-core-muon%E2%84%A2

That emoticon   ^-^ means asian as far as I understand it. Did you mean to use this one  >:D or perhaps Richard Clapton  O0 on the other side.
I can't otherwise see the reference.
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I dunno, all I see is a yellow dude closing eyes, smiling. maybe this one   ;D would have fitted better...
Isnt most of the emoticons Asian anyway? :palm:
 

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Re: EEVblog #669 - FLIR TG165 Thermal Imager Teardown
« Reply #68 on: October 05, 2014, 10:31:18 am »
Isnt most of the emoticons Asian anyway? :palm:
Nope. Maybe you're thinking of emoji. Emoticons is just a more general terms for smiley, that includes the non-smiling varieties as well. Western style emoticons are typically sideways like : ) whereas Japanese ones are typically oriented normally, like ^ - ^ (here represented with added spaces to avoid turning them into images.) I think the "Azn" one is supposed to look like its textual representation, with circumflexes as eyes.
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Re: EEVblog #669 - FLIR TG165 Thermal Imager Teardown
« Reply #69 on: February 10, 2015, 06:35:44 pm »
Hi Dave! Still playing catchup, I just watched the video. I think that your access point is behind the external hard LCD screen (where the molded PB's are). If you remove it somehow by prying (it will probably shatter the over screen as it is usually a polycarbonate material), you will find the 4 screw holes behind it. I am curious if it would give access. Seen this done before in cell phones, however the LCD  hard over screens are available. Not so sure about this device. The case may be ruined as you say, but I offer this explanation to the nagging question. How do I get in to this bloody thing?
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Re: EEVblog #669 - FLIR TG165 Thermal Imager Teardown
« Reply #70 on: February 09, 2016, 02:01:28 pm »
Just thought I should share this.

I made a simple program for using the TG165's grayscale images for temperature readings.
It just wants to know the maximum and minimum temperatures of the picture and then you can click on the image to see the temperature at any point.
This makes the device a bit more useful, as you can take readings from the picture later.
Just make sure to measure the min and max temperatures at the location separately and write them down.
Or even easier, take pictures pointing the thermometer at the hottest spot and only check the coldest spot later.
It's a .net 3.5 executable. It only accepts the original resolution .bmp files.

Greets,
Christopher

EDIT: New program in below post.
« Last Edit: February 10, 2016, 08:26:07 pm by Bytewize »
 

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Re: EEVblog #669 - FLIR TG165 Thermal Imager Teardown
« Reply #71 on: February 10, 2016, 08:11:51 am »
Just thought I should share this.

I made a simple program for using the TG165's grayscale images for temperature readings.
It just wants to know the maximum and minimum temperatures of the picture and then you can click on the image to see the temperature at any point.
This makes the device a bit more useful, as you can take readings from the picture later.
Just make sure to measure the min and max temperatures at the location separately and write them down.
Or even easier, take pictures pointing the thermometer at the hottest spot and only check the coldest spot later.
It's a .net 3.5 executable. It only accepts the original resolution .bmp files.

Greets,
Christopher

Wow, I bought yesterday one of TG165 just to check it;) thank You Bytewize

BTW. is it possible to connect camera with computer via usb (ip or some how)?
« Last Edit: February 10, 2016, 08:43:02 am by jumbo »
 

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Re: EEVblog #669 - FLIR TG165 Thermal Imager Teardown
« Reply #72 on: February 10, 2016, 09:31:12 am »
OK, I updated the software a bit, now works with ALL 3 FORMATS!
Just check the radio button for the corresponding type.

No connectivity options that I can find, only way I see is to tap into the display's output with a separate microcontroller.
« Last Edit: February 10, 2016, 02:59:40 pm by Bytewize »
 

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Re: EEVblog #669 - FLIR TG165 Thermal Imager Teardown
« Reply #73 on: February 11, 2016, 11:20:29 am »
OK, I updated the software a bit, now works with ALL 3 FORMATS!
Just check the radio button for the corresponding type.

No connectivity options that I can find, only way I see is to tap into the display's output with a separate microcontroller.

I will check sun your app;)

is in TG165 hidden menu?
« Last Edit: February 12, 2016, 07:37:11 am by jumbo »
 

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Re: EEVblog #669 - FLIR TG165 Thermal Imager Teardown
« Reply #74 on: June 04, 2016, 03:57:55 am »
Hmm, looks like the lepton comes in three models, one of which has a shutter. The one in the TG165 looks like it does have a shutter, so I'm not sure if Dave is right about it not having one. Would be interesting if you could get absolute temperatures from it.

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Lepton is available in three models: 50° FOV without shutter, 25° FOV without shutter, and 50° FOV with a shutter for manual calibration.

http://www.flir.com/cores/content/?id=66257
 


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