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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #7375 on: December 18, 2016, 03:56:23 pm »
Relatedly, here are some discharge "curves" of a li-ion with a buck regulator (somewhat like the opposite of the Batteroo):

http://lygte-info.dk/review/batteries2012/Kentli%20AA%202800mWh%20(Blue)%20UK.html

1.5V for some time, then nothing.

I expect the Batteroos will have the same effect.
 

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« Reply #7376 on: December 19, 2016, 06:37:24 am »
Out of curiosity, have we got ETA for those AAA Batterisers to Dave's office? We're all very excited and cannot wait!!

Thanks again to our EEVBlog member razvanme for sharing his Batterisers with us for testing purposes!
 

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« Reply #7377 on: December 19, 2016, 08:52:43 am »
The $100 bounty has been claimed, and some AAA's are making their way to me via DHL (but no tracking yet)
The money will be going to charity.
 
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« Reply #7378 on: December 19, 2016, 09:07:51 am »
The $100 bounty has been claimed, and some AAA's are making their way to me via DHL (but no tracking yet)
The money will be going to charity.

 :clap: Excellent, looking forward to that video....
 

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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #7379 on: December 19, 2016, 09:10:16 am »
Out of curiosity, have we got ETA for those AAA Batterisers to Dave's office? We're all very excited and cannot wait!!

Thanks again to our EEVBlog member razvanme for sharing his Batterisers with us for testing purposes!

Thank you, the only reason I backed them was in the hope I will get some and send them to you guys and to Dave, I am not keeping any sleeve and I don't want any sleeve, I prefer my gadgets to show me when the battery is low.

The package has been sent, 4 sleeves will reach Dave, hopefully this week. It's all up to Dave to keep us updated.

Still amazed that from 7000 backers I was in the top of the list for shipping, I guess Batteroo should know you can't escape Murphy.
 
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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #7380 on: December 19, 2016, 10:46:54 am »
Lets hope, the package don't get lost during shipping.

 

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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #7381 on: December 19, 2016, 11:12:22 am »
Lets hope, the package don't get lost during shipping.

I don't think Bob's arm is that long.
 

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« Reply #7382 on: December 19, 2016, 11:27:38 am »
If it doesn't get to Dave before Christmas, there might be a bit of a wait....

Between Saturday 24th to Monday 2nd January, Australia Post will only be working on the 29th & 30th December.
 

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« Reply #7383 on: December 19, 2016, 11:27:48 am »
Thank you, the only reason I backed them was in the hope I will get some and send them to you guys and to Dave

I know many people that did the same, but you are so far the only one that has received shipping notification let alone actual product!
 

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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #7384 on: December 19, 2016, 11:28:27 am »
If it doesn't get to Dave before Christmas, there might be a bit of a wait....
Between Saturday 24th to Monday 2nd January, Australia Post will only be working on the 29th & 30th December.

It's coming via DHL express to my office.
Not scanned in the system yet though...
 

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« Reply #7385 on: December 19, 2016, 11:33:33 am »
It's coming via DHL express to my office.
Not scanned in the system yet though...

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« Reply #7386 on: December 19, 2016, 11:48:44 am »
Dave's Christmas present for us will be a Batteriser video...?! Awesome! :D
 

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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #7387 on: December 19, 2016, 11:58:22 am »
Lets hope, the package don't get lost during shipping.

I don't think Bob's arm is that long.
But the post mans arm is that lazy.

For example:
I've an 25% chance to get my package (If I don't use an package depot station).
25% chance it get delivered to an random post office within 50km radius.
25% chance that the package get delivered to an random door in the neighbourhood.
(There are 3 similar sounding streets within 5km radius)
25% chance the package disapears during the delivery without a trace.
« Last Edit: December 19, 2016, 12:00:22 pm by Barny »
 

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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #7388 on: December 19, 2016, 02:32:37 pm »
The package is en-route to FrankBuss also, talked to them about arrivals, it should reach Frank on Wednesday. It should reach Customs in Australia on Friday. The codes for tracking them should be available later today, even tomorrow morning for Frank.

Update The codes are visible on DHL's website. So now we just wait.

I know many people that did the same, but you are so far the only one that has received shipping notification let alone actual product!

That might be another business option. Get a community to really desire a product by turning them against you and not giving them anything. And then wait for people to secretly back your product in the hopes they prove you wrong.

Curios how many backed them in order to get their hands on some sleeves and actually test them.
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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #7389 on: December 19, 2016, 03:17:49 pm »
Curios how many backed them in order to get their hands on some sleeves and actually test them.
I guess only a very low percentage of the backers. Most people are no engineers and couldn't care less about testing, timing and drawing characteristic curves. All they want to see is an Apple battery gauge showing low battery and full battery with Batteroo, it's magic :)
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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #7390 on: December 19, 2016, 08:09:33 pm »
I am secretly hopeful that the outcome of this is that there is now a dirt cheap boost converter available to the prole.
 

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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #7391 on: December 19, 2016, 08:25:07 pm »
I am secretly hopeful that the outcome of this is that there is now a dirt cheap boost converter available to the prole.

Huh?

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=dc+boost+converter

 

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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #7392 on: December 19, 2016, 08:52:23 pm »
The $100 bounty has been claimed, and some AAA's are making their way to me via DHL (but no tracking yet)
The money will be going to charity.


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« Reply #7393 on: December 19, 2016, 08:53:30 pm »
Fantastic  :-+
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« Reply #7394 on: December 19, 2016, 08:53:56 pm »
Excellent choice of charity.
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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #7395 on: December 19, 2016, 09:11:55 pm »
Dave's Christmas present for us will be a Batteriser video...?! Awesome! :D

Considering the ETA is Dec. 23rd, I guess it's more like New Year's present.

In the mean time it would be cool if Dave would share with us what tests his units will undergo, or what he's got in store for them once they're delivered.

I believe he's already been in touch with people who'll decap and take microscopic photos of the die. What else?
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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #7396 on: December 19, 2016, 09:20:14 pm »
Little side note: We are approaching the 300 pages mark in this topic as a valid item is finally arriving at Daves lab. Nice! We should celebrate this milestone!
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« Reply #7397 on: December 19, 2016, 09:26:36 pm »
Little side note: We are approaching the 300 pages mark in this topic as a valid item is finally arriving at Daves lab. Nice! We should celebrate this milestone!

What is it now, a year and a half since this fiasco started?
Batteroo could have sent a media review unit way back then and avoided all this, or any time in between. But now I have to get one from a guy in Romania who just happened to get lucky and get one of the seemingly handful of units in the wild. Crazy.
 

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« Reply #7398 on: December 19, 2016, 09:34:17 pm »
In the mean time it would be cool if Dave would share with us what tests his units will undergo, or what he's got in store for them once they're delivered.

Me have a plan?  :-DD
One will get wires soldered on for efficiency curve measurement.
Will test minimum startup voltage, output ripple (vs current), switching frequency, temp, that sort of stuff. So expect that in the first video.
I'll pop two others in a AAA product (maybe my GPS watch if I can find it) with timelapse.
Actually, I should start product testing now without the Batteriser for a benchmark.
Maybe the product timelapse will make the first video, not sure, but product testing takes time.

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I believe he's already been in touch with people who'll decap and take microscopic photos of the die. What else?

I believe some will be on their way separately to the Zeptobars decapping guy.
 

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Re: EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)
« Reply #7399 on: December 19, 2016, 09:37:05 pm »
I am secretly hopeful that the outcome of this is that there is now a dirt cheap boost converter available to the prole.

Huh?

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=dc+boost+converter

I'm not talking about those. I'm referring to the IC.

The batterizer BOM cost is likely around $0.75 USD, which might make the IC around $0.20 or so. If that math is close, that would be a cool IC, even if it was only good to 500 mA.
 


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