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Re: EEVblog #833 - Mailbag
« Reply #150 on: January 01, 2016, 10:35:36 pm »
 

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« Reply #151 on: January 01, 2016, 10:44:13 pm »
 Beer and sandals - is that the Dude, or Dave?  ;D

 

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« Reply #152 on: January 01, 2016, 10:51:01 pm »
Beer and sandals - is that the Dude, or Dave?  ;D

No beer for Dave and no white Russians either. But other than that i think Dave would make an excellent Dudeist convert.
 

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« Reply #153 on: January 02, 2016, 12:31:58 am »
Sorry, as much as you might like to think you are, you aren't following "the man" but the words of people several generations after him that didn't even know him.
James and Jude who wrote the the Bible books named after them were both fleshly brothers of Jesus, so they certainly would have known him. That Jesus had fleshly brothers and sisters, Mary's other offspring, is stated plainly in Matthew 13:55, flatly contradicting mainstream church teaching. Saying that out loud could haven gotten one executed in times past.
 

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Re: EEVblog #833 - Mailbag
« Reply #154 on: January 02, 2016, 05:04:51 am »


 :-DD


100K - maybe 2KW 20KW?  (just rechecked the scale from the steps)
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« Reply #155 on: January 02, 2016, 09:12:21 am »
James and Jude who wrote the the Bible books named after them were both fleshly brothers of Jesus, so they certainly would have known him.
Interesting hypothesis. Can you find a reputable historian who agrees with that?
 

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« Reply #156 on: January 02, 2016, 09:27:28 am »
That Jesus had fleshly brothers and sisters, Mary's other offspring, is stated plainly in Matthew 13:55, flatly contradicting mainstream church teaching.

Harry Potter state plainly that there's a place called Hogwarts where specially chosen children go to learn to fly. That doesn't prove it exists.

But yeah...  I love it when The Bible openly contradicts church practices/doctrine. No wonder the church was against having it translated into English.
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« Reply #157 on: January 02, 2016, 09:33:12 am »
100K - maybe 2KW 20KW?  (just rechecked the scale from the steps)

True believers worship the tolerance and temperature coefficient, not the wattage.

(The true values of those are revealed only to the chosen few...I can't post them here, obviously)
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« Reply #158 on: January 02, 2016, 09:47:36 am »
Many say that  the islam is a violent religion.. But christianity and the bibel is full of commandmens to stone and kill people for varius resons. The selectively they read and live after this crayz book is stagering... Beates every comon sense. Ex.The bibel advise  brutal killings  as a comon thing in the bibel.  "Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto the gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die."
http://biblehub.net/search.php?q=Stone+to+death
Christianity had several revolution along the way. The Pope and several bishops gathered together and made changes "to decide an issue of doctrine, administration or application". Islam by definition cannot be changed, and no attempt was made. That what scares me the most, people saying that that they follow islam, they either do it to the last word of a CENSORED. There is no halfway following it. And then it is OK to kill me and my Family because we dont follow it (and to do many barbaric acts). It is a true Catch-22.
Dont compare these two religions based on the Bible. It only means that you have no understanding of Christianity.
Yes, and I'm writing this even though I'm not part of any of those religion groups. The FSM approves this message.
 

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« Reply #159 on: January 02, 2016, 09:53:05 am »
Anyways, I do follow the man, not the churches that formed around him.

How can you "follow the man" when the only information about "the man" was written at least several generations after his death?
Not a single word from the holy book came from him.
Sorry, as much as you might like to think you are, you aren't following "the man" but the words of people several generations after him that didn't even know him.

Even then you're reading an edited/distorted version of the story, with all the inconvenient parts removed* and things like the resurrection added**.

* Inconvenient parts like the Gospel of Thomas where young Jesus goes around killing other children with his magic powers.

** The resurrection isn't in the earliest copies of the gospels, it was added much later to give a neater ending to the story after the followup book failed to appear. We don't know the details, all we know is that Part I of the novel had a cliffhanger ending ("empty cave, women running away screaming!") and Part II never appeared.

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« Reply #160 on: January 02, 2016, 10:42:19 pm »
Dave : "Yes, it's the end of 2015, and we've supposedly got Hoverboards, and flying delorians, hmmm"

You should have added "we've supposedly got Batterizers"

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« Reply #161 on: January 02, 2016, 10:52:51 pm »
Dave : "Yes, it's the end of 2015, and we've supposedly got Hoverboards, and flying delorians, hmmm"
You should have added "we've supposedly got Batterizers"

We've got a Batteriser lawsuit! Although that might spoil our fun actually getting hands on Batterisers this year.
 

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« Reply #162 on: January 04, 2016, 07:45:50 am »
The thingyougot was shit, but isn’t representative of a valve amp.
Just a clapped together crap to make certain valve types work with low voltage,
and then they can call it a valve preamp.


Dave, I invite you to believe that tubes are cool. Even though these days they are mostly connected to audiophools.
I would like to see a video ,like fundamentals friday, where you explain a little bit of theory of operation and build and
probe simple circuit with a tube. 

Perhaps.
I'd have to brush upon that one though, because I have never built nor worked on valve gear before.
I think I had Doug Ford explaining a valve mic amp front end in one of his videos?


Also... Jeebuz jibba jabba biggity boo.
 

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« Reply #163 on: January 04, 2016, 02:37:23 pm »
Dave, I invite you to believe that tubes are cool.

Even atheists can believe that valves are cool (I certainly believe it!)

 

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« Reply #164 on: January 04, 2016, 02:45:48 pm »
Valves can be cool, but they generally do not work while cool. Fine for display though.
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« Reply #165 on: January 04, 2016, 04:21:33 pm »
Dave : "Yes, it's the end of 2015, and we've supposedly got Hoverboards, and flying delorians, hmmm"

I would have preferred the car the Delorean was modeled after, the Mercedes C111
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_C111
 

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Re: EEVblog #833 - Mailbag
« Reply #166 on: January 04, 2016, 10:26:29 pm »
Dave : "Yes, it's the end of 2015, and we've supposedly got Hoverboards, and flying delorians, hmmm"

I would have preferred the car the Delorean was modeled after, the Mercedes C111
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_C111
Wow.
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fiberglass body shell and with a mid-mounted three-rotor direct fuel injected Wankel engine
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C111 eventually reached 200 mph
That is something you dont see every day.
 

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« Reply #167 on: January 06, 2016, 12:20:54 pm »
Am I too late for the religion-bashing party?
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« Reply #168 on: January 06, 2016, 12:44:42 pm »
Am I too late for the religion-bashing party?
Yes, you are too late.
I will NEVER believe that "tubes are cool".  I still have a scar on my hand from burning myself on one.
 

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« Reply #169 on: January 06, 2016, 01:25:30 pm »
Am I too late for the religion-bashing party?
Yes, you are too late.

That's too bad. I have good story of when I made a christian question her own beliefs.
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« Reply #170 on: January 06, 2016, 01:51:19 pm »
Am I too late for the religion-bashing party?
Yes, you are too late.

That's too bad. I have good story of when I made a christian question her own beliefs.

Spill those beans!!!!
 

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« Reply #171 on: January 06, 2016, 10:05:31 pm »
Am I too late for the religion-bashing party?
Yes, you are too late.
That's too bad. I have good story of when I made a christian question her own beliefs.

You sat down to read The Bible together?
 

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« Reply #172 on: January 06, 2016, 10:50:27 pm »
To reply or not to reply?  I've not posted here often, but this topic got my attention, albeit a little late.  After reading 12 pages of mixed opinions, I guess I'll throw mine in.

I'm a Christian.  I don't like labels either.  "Atheist" is a range of beliefs that have a belief in no God in common.  For example, Sam Harris believes in an absolute morality (i.e. killing a baby is wrong no matter what society says) while Dawkins believes it is more of a social construct.  Christianity is also a range of beliefs that has Jesus as the son of God in common.  We disagree on some other things, for example, William Lane Craig, believes in the big bang and the generally accepted 13 billion year timeline, while Ken Ham believes in a literal 6 day creation some 6,000 years ago.

I'm also an electrical engineer.  So I don't like the suggestions that I don't have a reasonable arguments for believing in Jesus and God.  I've been a fan of Dave since I stumbled across his first videos when he was still making them in his garage.  But this forum isn't really a comfortable place to discuss religion, mostly due to his comments and the other comments of others "bashing" religion generally and often Christianity in particular.

Some people have asked for reasonable arguments, and we could go on and on most likely.  But I'll try to be brief here.

First, the claim is made that in an age of science and reason, belief in God should be recognized as baloney.  I don't buy that.  Based on my knowledge of science, the universe had a beginning.  If it had a beginning, there was some cause to the beginning.  I just don't buy that some quantum fluctuation in a multiverse resulted in a singularity that expanded into everything we see.  That is an explanation, but the scientific proof of that theory is just as speculative as a creation of the universe by God.  I don't buy that it's a simpler explanation either.  Further, am I to believe that atoms ordered themselves into the first cell?  How did that happen?  I think our most complex engineering feats fall below the complexity of a single cell.  I have to admit I don't know much about biology.  I chose to be an engineer because I could understand it.  Biology was too complex for me to understand.  Am I to believe that the first cell just appeared?  Am I to believe that evolution shaped the course of biological history?  That by the power of natural selection (i.e. death) the complexity of life was advanced far beyond the complexity of a single cell?  On what basis?  Science has so far fallen short of an adequate explanation for me on these questions.  I don't think it'll ever fully answer them.  I think the fact that the universe is here and that we're here to see it is nothing short of miraculous and if it's short of that I'd say it's so highly improbable that I'd exist to be typing this and that you'd exist to be reading it that we should celebrate the fact that it is happening at all!!!

I'd think that engineers could recognize that highly improbable things do happen.  But they usually happen on purpose.  It is improbable that the computer I'm typing on would appear.  So the best explanation is that someone designed and built the thing.  And as we all should know and appreciate, that's a hard thing.  We're all much more complex than a computer, so did we just appear, or did someone design and build us.  This could go on and on, and I suppose you could ask, if God designed everything, then who designed God as Dawkins has.  But the Christian God has always been.  And therefore, the question is meaningless.  But if you ask the same question of the universe, since it had a beginning, the question is valid.  Something or someone caused the universe, and science only gives speculative explanations to counter a God explanation.

The other particular question is, "why Jesus?"  To this I'd say the major influence on me was reading the new testament.  Yes, our earliest fragments of the new testament are dated some 30 years after Jesus died.  And the majority of the new testament wasn't written by people who knew Jesus, but by people who knew people who knew Jesus.  But the claims written down are incredible.  The resurrection of Jesus is frankly an outlandish claim.  But I started to believe in large part due to the influence from other people's lives around me.  Not people who were merely religious, but people who genuinely care about other and try to live out the morality that is recorded in the new testament taught by Jesus.  Many of my other experiences with prayer and encounters with God I can relate.  However, to many they will be relegated to some psychological trick, explained away by people who like me took a single semester in psychology. 

But, I am an incredible skeptic, so at some point I checked out some of the surrounding historians, like Josephus, that are referenced by Christian scholars.  Josephus refers to Jesus as dying and says a group he called Christians continued to follow in his teaching and even claimed he was still alive.  That coupled with the thought that many of the founding Christians died rather than denounce the resurrection of Jesus.  It seemed to me the most plausible explanation for the initial spread of Christianity was that these people really believed and were willing to die for their beliefs.  I suppose they could have been deceived, but if so, it was quite a feat of the founders.  After all, all the Jews or Romans had to do was to produce Jesus' body and the whole thing would have been settled.

Finally, the fact that there are other educated people I've met who believe as I do, at least indicates that there is some validity to it.  I have to admit, many of the ideas in this post are not mine, but taken from other people I've talked to or read.  I humbly ask you to read the new testament if you have never done so.  I don't accept the claim that it is just like the Quran.  I've read some of it also, and it's a different book about a different set of beliefs.  It's naive to lump all religious beliefs in one pot.  I'm specifically appealing to belief in Christianity.  Anyway, there's a lot of information and misinformation out on the internet if you want to research on your own.  I've done about as well as I can addressing some of the comments for one forum post.  Thanks to anyone who read this lengthy post.
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Re: EEVblog #833 - Mailbag
« Reply #173 on: January 06, 2016, 10:53:00 pm »
Am I too late for the religion-bashing party?
Yes, you are too late.
That's too bad. I have good story of when I made a christian question her own beliefs.

You sat down to read The Bible together?
Or possibly made her watch Cosmos with Neil Tyson.
 

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Re: EEVblog #833 - Mailbag
« Reply #174 on: January 07, 2016, 12:02:55 am »
To reply or not to reply?  I've not posted here often, but this topic got my attention, albeit a little late.  After reading 12 pages of mixed opinions, I guess I'll throw mine in.
While I agree almost completely with @jonw0224, i have never entered into any (public) discussions of religion in this forum.  It is quite obviously owned, operated, and populated with a majority of athiests/agnostics (or whatever label you prefer).  And IME, they have all made up their minds and are impervious to any discussion that doesn't agree with their beliefs. So be it.  The Aths/Ags love Religion Bashing as an online sport. I just find it boring and off-topic.   :=\
 


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