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Offline Barny

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Re: EEVblog #868 - Keysight U1282A Multimeter Torture Test
« Reply #100 on: April 11, 2016, 03:35:58 pm »
I think my post got understood in the wrong way.
(Sorry, my english isn't that good.)

I wanted to say that its sad to see a good multimeter ged destroyed.
But its Daves multimeter so he is free to do with it what he want.

The problem with this video is, that at least in the german language-area the most clicked-videos are te sort of "pranked bro", videos of vandalism,....
All together videos for people with low cerebral capacity and oversexed / desperate teenager.

I was concerned that Dave is slowly going the same way.
But this comments where because I like Daves channel very much and I dont want to see Dave drifting in the direction of high-quantity-low quality content.

But hey, thats only my opinion, a opinion of an old guy from the other site of the world, ranting at some clouds.
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Re: EEVblog #868 - Keysight U1282A Multimeter Torture Test
« Reply #101 on: April 11, 2016, 04:22:14 pm »
You mean that same new low I reached 6 years ago when I did almost exactly the same video?
The same video that is quite famous and made a good part of my reputation?
The same video that the #1 requested thing people want to see when they visit the lab is the beat up Fluke 28?
The same video people often credit as one of their favourite episodes?
That new low point?
No, as I said, a new one, not the same one, it is lower and lower each year.
You argue that the video is famous and many people liked it... so what, does that make it a good video, if anything that only proves my point, the more stupid a video is, the more views it has.

Demonstrably untrue.
My original Fluke 28 videos has 44,500 views in 6 years. One of my weaker performing videos in terms of long term views.

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I get it you make more money this way, but your reputation is going down, fast, when was the last time you did something of value.

Of value to whom? You?
If you don't find value in my videos, that's fine, I only expect a small number of people to find value in my videos. But don't make out that you speak for anyone other than yourself, you don't.
Provide evidence that my "reputation is going down, fast".

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I am pretty sure that you know exactly what I am talking about.

Nope. Your argument seems completely flawed, and I can actually show it's demonstrably wrong.

Nope, I am a long time fan, or hater ? (not sure, you decide)
I am silent most of the time, commenting mostly when somthing/someone pisses me off.
You don't have to get so defensive every time someone doesn't like your video, just take the good with the bad.

I like feedback and ask for it regularly, and I spend a massive amount of time enaging with people on feedback even when I could easily ignore you.
What I don't like is people who think they speak for everyone, you don't.

If you said "Hey, I don't like this style of video etc" that's useful feedback. But when you say my reputation is falling blah, blah, and speaking like you know or speak for my audience, then you are just being silly.

No, I don't need a safe space (i am not sure what that is) you just focus your energy on making quality videos.

I make videos I like and want to make. If you don't like them there is an unsubscribe button.
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Re: EEVblog #868 - Keysight U1282A Multimeter Torture Test
« Reply #102 on: April 11, 2016, 04:25:47 pm »
I wanted to say that its sad to see a good multimeter ged destroyed.
But its Daves multimeter so he is free to do with it what he want.

Keysight gave me this meter specifically to destroy it. How many time do I have to point this out?

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The problem with this video is, that at least in the german language-area the most clicked-videos are te sort of "pranked bro", videos of vandalism,....
All together videos for people with low cerebral capacity and oversexed / desperate teenager.
I was concerned that Dave is slowly going the same way.

Nope, just me doing the same style video I got a reputation for doing 6 years ago.
 

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Re: EEVblog #868 - Keysight U1282A Multimeter Torture Test
« Reply #103 on: April 11, 2016, 04:30:04 pm »
That is correct, i didn't mean to be a troll but maybe i was not clear enough about what i meant. I'll try again: I wanted to see what was the first thing breaking in the multimeter that renedered it useless. (most likely that resistor network but we may never know) I know you could not just go back to lab after each drop to tear it down and show us the results but either way that was the only thing bugging me.

Yes, I know. I should have soldered a reference resistor inside or something, but I simply didn't think of that, I was too excited just to go canyoning and go dropping the thing.
 

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Re: EEVblog #868 - Keysight U1282A Multimeter Torture Test
« Reply #104 on: April 11, 2016, 05:10:45 pm »
I should have soldered a reference resistor inside or something
Maybe try to keep that in mind in the year 2022 when you're testing another multimeter. More than once per 6 year period seems too much, considering all the hate here. Heck, probably Wun Hung Lo will start producing high end gear before "fans" let you break another test gear  :-DD
 

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Re: EEVblog #868 - Keysight U1282A Multimeter Torture Test
« Reply #105 on: April 11, 2016, 05:24:05 pm »
I am silent most of the time, commenting mostly when somthing/someone pisses me off.

So you only offer negative feedback?  There's a T-shirt that would suit you perfectly.

Some people actually like to give positive feedback and/or suggestions, rather than just stomp around when annoyed.
 
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Re: EEVblog #868 - Keysight U1282A Multimeter Torture Test
« Reply #106 on: April 11, 2016, 06:02:02 pm »
I liked the destruction videos very much!  :-+
Something different from the usual Mailbag Monday (although it is my favourite segment  ;) ).

Would be very interesting to see how a non-rugged multimeter (EEVblog BM235 for example) does in the same tests.
I would be interested to know how much more robust the 1282a or fluke 28 really are compared to a normal good quality meter.
Of course no canyoning if the meter isn't waterproof.

Keep it up Dave!  :-DMM

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Re: EEVblog #868 - Keysight U1282A Multimeter Torture Test
« Reply #107 on: April 11, 2016, 07:00:10 pm »
Was rather interesting to from the point of view of "at what point would Dave not be able to give it away". Pretty sure that was after he ran over it with the car.

As for the idea of doing it again with a cheap meter, we don't want Dave getting fined for littering, would take ages to pick up all the fragments of plastic and glass.
He Dave really wants to drop a cheap item from 30m, can we do that ebay crappy soldering iron ?
Though I suspect its out of the question, as Dave has likely poured wet concrete over it.
 

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Re: EEVblog #868 - Keysight U1282A Multimeter Torture Test
« Reply #108 on: April 11, 2016, 07:47:48 pm »
Just watched the video and had a cry  :'(
 

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Re: EEVblog #868 - Keysight U1282A Multimeter Torture Test
« Reply #109 on: April 11, 2016, 08:19:34 pm »
Just watched the video and had a cry  :'(

Blame Keysight - they're the ones who wanted Dave to destroy it.
 

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Re: EEVblog #868 - Keysight U1282A Multimeter Torture Test
« Reply #110 on: April 11, 2016, 08:39:19 pm »
Formal drop tests are done at both extremes of the temperature operating range (-20c and +55c for the Keysight). Need to pack some dry ice and firewood for the next torture test.
Incidentally, ABS highest impact resistance and strength are obtained by molding at low temperature.
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Re: EEVblog #868 - Keysight U1282A Multimeter Torture Test
« Reply #111 on: April 11, 2016, 09:43:00 pm »
Just watched the video and had a cry  :'(

Blame Keysight - they're the ones who wanted Dave to destroy it.

Maybe so, but still had a cry....
 

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Re: EEVblog #868 - Keysight U1282A Multimeter Torture Test
« Reply #112 on: April 11, 2016, 10:03:49 pm »
Hmmm.. I must watch the video again.
I only remember Dave saying something and then - A good looking woman... and the rest is a little blank.. oh yes - there was a good looking woman in the video.
 

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Re: EEVblog #868 - Keysight U1282A Multimeter Torture Test
« Reply #113 on: April 11, 2016, 10:21:37 pm »
Great video Dave!
Nice to see a "non lab" test of a multimeter, you did this in a fun and nice way :)
(the only thing more fun is reading the "negative feedback" from some of the people here, they seem to need some kind of hobby to get some joy into their lives).
Keep up the good work, your videos have been of great inspiration to me (and many many others I'm sure) !
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Re: EEVblog #868 - Keysight U1282A Multimeter Torture Test
« Reply #114 on: April 11, 2016, 10:39:08 pm »
I usually like Dave's videos, I've learned a lot (and have also spent a good chunk of time screaming about how he gets stuff wrong or misses stuff on teardowns etc.) but it makes my heart ache to see equipment that I just cannot afford but would dearly love to have being destroyed, so, for that reason, no I won't watch the video.

If I was in need of a meter that could survive a dunk underwater, being dropped from a building or ladders then maybe I would watch it.

If Keysight sent Dave a meter to teardown and another to destroy then all power to their marketing department and Dave, this is after all about selling test gear and I much prefer Dave's 'warts and all' approach to someone who will kiss arse so they can lay hands on a nice piece of swag.

My point I suppose, if you don't like it don't watch it, plenty of other YT content out there to watch

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Re: EEVblog #868 - Keysight U1282A Multimeter Torture Test
« Reply #115 on: April 12, 2016, 12:21:06 am »
I understand perfectly well why Keysight asked Dave to make this video. Fluke has become well known for their salespeople to throw their multimeters around in a lab or drop them out of a window without doing any damage to the multimeter. How do you 'me-too' something like that? Either way Keysight seems to be putting a lot of effort into marketing their gear to the lower end of the market.
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Re: EEVblog #868 - Keysight U1282A Multimeter Torture Test
« Reply #116 on: April 12, 2016, 12:27:52 am »
What I like about Daves torture tests are that it's done to a meter that claims certain capability (IP67) - and it's not just another Youtube click-bait with something ridiculous like latest iPhone against thermite (something that it's clearly not designed to withstand.) And even as the test goes ridiculous at some point (driving over with a car, drop test from 25) those are the kind of tests that find the limits of the design - and the fact that meter is not in thousand pieces after all of that, shows that a lot of thought went into making this piece of equipment durable. Good video, thanks Dave!
 

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Re: EEVblog #868 - Keysight U1282A Multimeter Torture Test
« Reply #117 on: April 12, 2016, 06:34:54 am »
Watched it last night, and  enjoyed the test. So many haters :-//
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Re: EEVblog #868 - Keysight U1282A Multimeter Torture Test
« Reply #118 on: April 12, 2016, 09:47:57 am »
Watched it last night, and  enjoyed the test. So many haters :-//

Haters gonna hate, and even when they don't hate something, they always find something to hate it again...


BTW: Nice video, that Keysight monster nearly killed a pigeon and that would be a winner indeed!  O0

 
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Re: EEVblog #868 - Keysight U1282A Multimeter Torture Test
« Reply #119 on: April 12, 2016, 10:44:56 am »
Congrats Dave, this is a new low.
I am sorry to see what has become of eevblog.

Um, no it isn't. He's done stuff like this a few times before.

 

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Re: EEVblog #868 - Keysight U1282A Multimeter Torture Test
« Reply #120 on: April 12, 2016, 11:10:17 am »
"A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men."
Roald Dahl



Congrats Dave, this is a new low.
I am sorry to see what has become of eevblog.

Oh so serious ... and wrong, BTW.
 
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Re: EEVblog #868 - Keysight U1282A Multimeter Torture Test
« Reply #121 on: April 12, 2016, 06:11:17 pm »
Purposely throwing away or destroying perfectly useful things is still considered a major crime by many elderly Swabians. My grandma used to iron the wrappings of x-mas or birthday gifts she got. "Look, they are perfectly good, you can use them again!". No, I'm not kidding... Of course, with the younger throw-away-buy-new iphone generation this has changed a lot, but show Dave's vid to generation 50+ and it shure would get downvoted  :-DD
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Re: EEVblog #868 - Keysight U1282A Multimeter Torture Test
« Reply #122 on: April 12, 2016, 11:37:21 pm »
Would that Keysight tester float in water and be equally IP67-worthy without the orange rubbery clad? 
 

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Re: EEVblog #868 - Keysight U1282A Multimeter Torture Test
« Reply #123 on: April 13, 2016, 12:09:53 am »
Would that Keysight tester float in water and be equally IP67-worthy without the orange rubbery clad? 
And more important: Does it float with the test leads plugges in?

Dave could test it with his other meter and since it is non destructive nobody can complain.  ::)
 

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Re: EEVblog #868 - Keysight U1282A Multimeter Torture Test
« Reply #124 on: April 13, 2016, 12:14:37 am »
Would that Keysight tester float in water and be equally IP67-worthy without the orange rubbery clad?

I suspect it's all the air inside the main body that makes it float so well with the orange rubbery clad.
 


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