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Re: EEVblog #868 - Keysight U1282A Multimeter Torture Test
« Reply #75 on: April 11, 2016, 03:33:20 am »
Dave, entertaining video for sure. I had a few chuckles.  ;D  Not so sure about what to think of the earlier comments on wasting a perfectly good multimeter. Certainly the world is no worse for wear and if Keysight chooses to give you stuff to destroy, it's their prerogative.

I've got the exact same request from Crest, who gave me 2 brand new electric toothbrushes... One of which is going to be a teardown and likely destroy the brush. I will eventually do a video on it and have no qualms about someone in the world who would otherwise benefit being unable to perform proper oral hygiene because of it.

In any case, I enjoyed the CANYONING footage actually more so than the multimeter. It was beautiful to see the natural scenery of the outback and some nice adventure hiking. I don't mind at all if the multimeter destruction was simply an excuse to get some canyon footage in there. It was fun and I only wish I could have been doing it!  :-+
 
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Re: EEVblog #868 - Keysight U1282A Multimeter Torture Test
« Reply #76 on: April 11, 2016, 04:55:06 am »
@Dave:
By the way what is with the shorts? I assume you all are wearing them to protect the expensive wetsuits while sliding over rocks? Or are they just an Aussie fashion statement?
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Re: EEVblog #868 - Keysight U1282A Multimeter Torture Test
« Reply #77 on: April 11, 2016, 05:46:40 am »
I like that lady in the video.  :-*

Yeah was thinking the same, fuck the multimeter that's one hot chick  :-+

Never mind that. What about the bearded guy? And the cute face he pulls every time he looks at the camera...?
 

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Re: EEVblog #868 - Keysight U1282A Multimeter Torture Test
« Reply #78 on: April 11, 2016, 06:45:14 am »
Seeing all the hate here i must state my opinion on the matter as well. I don't agree with that hate here and agree that stuff needs to be tested/destroyed in order to see how well they last.
Only thing i got a bit annoyed was the lack of "documentation" of the experiment. It was nice to see Dave tear down and show us how the meter managed to resist water but why didn't he do it again when seeing the meter display shatter when dropping (losing the only obvious indication of life) I wanted to see how well everything else survived at the point where display finally failed.

Only difference between science and random vandalism is documentation.
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Re: EEVblog #868 - Keysight U1282A Multimeter Torture Test
« Reply #79 on: April 11, 2016, 06:47:19 am »
Only difference between science and random vandalism is documentation.
I'd be carefull with such statements but since I don't want to trigger Godwin's law here I won't explain further...
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Re: EEVblog #868 - Keysight U1282A Multimeter Torture Test
« Reply #80 on: April 11, 2016, 07:06:49 am »
I'd be carefull with such statements
Sounded perfect to end my post.  |O People will surely get the wrong idea about it, but hey, at least they will waste their energy on someone else than Dave  :)
 

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Re: EEVblog #868 - Keysight U1282A Multimeter Torture Test
« Reply #81 on: April 11, 2016, 07:58:53 am »
Congrats Dave, this is a new low.
I am sorry to see what has become of eevblog.

Does anyone else thinks we are slowly heading towards idiocracy? In a few years eevblog will be nothing just a rant about a farting butt.
It is even worse that keysight requested/sponsored/appreoved/whatever this.
In my eyes keysights reputation has dropt a lot.

There is a difference between testing/destroying the device in any meaningful way, and destroying it like in the the video.
I would guess no one who can afford keysight instruments appreciates something like this.

Well, if you have decided to go down on this path, make sure to check next time if it blends, that should get you a few extra views
 

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Re: EEVblog #868 - Keysight U1282A Multimeter Torture Test
« Reply #82 on: April 11, 2016, 08:25:01 am »
^ I think you just proved Dave's SJW idea
 

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Re: EEVblog #868 - Keysight U1282A Multimeter Torture Test
« Reply #83 on: April 11, 2016, 08:30:07 am »
New logo for EEVblog:

 Don't turn it on, throw it off a dam.

 
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Re: EEVblog #868 - Keysight U1282A Multimeter Torture Test
« Reply #84 on: April 11, 2016, 08:36:48 am »
Congrats Dave, this is a new low.
I am sorry to see what has become of eevblog.

Does anyone else thinks we are slowly heading towards idiocracy? In a few years eevblog will be nothing just a rant about a farting butt.
It is even worse that keysight requested/sponsored/appreoved/whatever this.
In my eyes keysights reputation has dropt a lot.

There is a difference between testing/destroying the device in any meaningful way, and destroying it like in the the video.
I would guess no one who can afford keysight instruments appreciates something like this.

Well, if you have decided to go down on this path, make sure to check next time if it blends, that should get you a few extra views

I would encourage you to stick around and join the community.  Dave has proven many times over he can't be bought and doesn't give two shits about a few extra views.  Nothing wrong with indulging every now and then.

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Re: EEVblog #868 - Keysight U1282A Multimeter Torture Test
« Reply #85 on: April 11, 2016, 08:38:52 am »
I think Dave needs to put a "Trigger Warning" on this video and this thread! Also Dave needs to make a private part of the forum as a safe zone so we can all talk about subjects without any disagreement. I feel violated when people disagree or don't post only smileys in replies. Please Dave!

Oh yes, I must tell everyone that I have been traumatized emotionally since I watched this video and have been racking up psychiatric bills every hour since I watched. Please think about what you say and post. We need safe zones here!
 

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Re: EEVblog #868 - Keysight U1282A Multimeter Torture Test
« Reply #86 on: April 11, 2016, 08:46:31 am »
Congrats Dave, this is a new low.
I am sorry to see what has become of eevblog.

Does anyone else thinks we are slowly heading towards idiocracy? In a few years eevblog will be nothing just a rant about a farting butt.

What do you mean "in a few years"? It has been 6 years since EEVBlog #66 ("Death & Destruction of a Fluke Multimeter"). I guess the EEVBlog has been an "idiocracy" since then? If so, what does that make you?

There are plenty of videos showing how crappy products fail to live up to their specs. It's good to see one that shows a product that does live up to its claims.

And another thing, I really don't understand people who are somehow offended that Dave broke a multimeter, as if it were a holy relic or something. Come on, people, it's an assembly-line product, not a unique work of art. Crunch all you want, they'll make more.
 
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Re: EEVblog #868 - Keysight U1282A Multimeter Torture Test
« Reply #87 on: April 11, 2016, 09:06:09 am »
Seeing all the hate here i must state my opinion on the matter as well. I don't agree with that hate here and agree that stuff needs to be tested/destroyed in order to see how well they last.
Only thing i got a bit annoyed was the lack of "documentation" of the experiment. It was nice to see Dave tear down and show us how the meter managed to resist water but why didn't he do it again when seeing the meter display shatter when dropping (losing the only obvious indication of life) I wanted to see how well everything else survived at the point where display finally failed.

Err, the display finally failed on the 30m drop.
 

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Re: EEVblog #868 - Keysight U1282A Multimeter Torture Test
« Reply #88 on: April 11, 2016, 09:12:11 am »
Congrats Dave, this is a new low.
I am sorry to see what has become of eevblog.

You mean that same new low I reached 6 years ago when I did almost exactly the same video?
The same video that is quite famous and made a good part of my reputation?
The same video that the #1 requested thing people want to see when they visit the lab is the beat up Fluke 28?
The same video people often credit as one of their favourite episodes?
That new low point?

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It is even worse that keysight requested/sponsored/appreoved/whatever this.

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Re: EEVblog #868 - Keysight U1282A Multimeter Torture Test
« Reply #89 on: April 11, 2016, 09:34:01 am »
Dave,  I actually liked the video. There is nothing wrong with a little destruction :) I did some myself with some defective crusty (or sometimes perfectly fine)  products. Also, that feeling you get when you throw something up against a wall and beat the crap out of something - It's actually a good stress reliever  :-+
 

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Re: EEVblog #868 - Keysight U1282A Multimeter Torture Test
« Reply #90 on: April 11, 2016, 09:41:48 am »
There is quite nothing bad on this video, it reminds me car crashtests made by Euro Ncap. http://www.euroncap.com/en
BTW which one is better? Fluke 28-II or this Keysight U1282A? I think that both meet its specs, that's good.
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Re: EEVblog #868 - Keysight U1282A Multimeter Torture Test
« Reply #91 on: April 11, 2016, 09:43:46 am »
BTW which one is better? Fluke 28-II or this Keysight U1282A? I think that both meet its specs, that's good.

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Re: EEVblog #868 - Keysight U1282A Multimeter Torture Test
« Reply #92 on: April 11, 2016, 10:17:27 am »
I don't see a problem with destructive tests.   It would have been fun to see how a couple of your low end meters would have handled the same tests.  Keep up the good work.   
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Re: EEVblog #868 - Keysight U1282A Multimeter Torture Test
« Reply #93 on: April 11, 2016, 12:08:43 pm »
Dave, just a thought...

When you threw it off the dam, why not let it free fall *without* the tether rope attached, and have your assistant at the bottom just hook it back on to the rope to let you tow it back to the top?

That way the multimeter could turn freely in falling and hit the ground at any angle, instead of only hitting bottom down as when the rope was attached. You could then throw down the rope to your assistant who would hook it on only for the lift back up to the top. When it gets back up, you could un-tether the rope and throw it down again.
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Re: EEVblog #868 - Keysight U1282A Multimeter Torture Test
« Reply #94 on: April 11, 2016, 01:02:21 pm »
I think that two extra wings could have made all the difference with a soft landing, I much prefer this enhancement below.
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Re: EEVblog #868 - Keysight U1282A Multimeter Torture Test
« Reply #95 on: April 11, 2016, 01:10:22 pm »
Dave, just a thought...

When you threw it off the dam, why not let it free fall *without* the tether rope attached, and have your assistant at the bottom just hook it back on to the rope to let you tow it back to the top?

That way the multimeter could turn freely in falling and hit the ground at any angle, instead of only hitting bottom down as when the rope was attached. You could then throw down the rope to your assistant who would hook it on only for the lift back up to the top. When it gets back up, you could un-tether the rope and throw it down again.

The tether was used to initiate drops from intermediate heights - but I agree that the rope dragging over the railing would have slowed the fall.

To solve this you could hook the meter to a hold line and have a release line to pull a pin and let it free fall.

Alternatively, have the whole rope already hanging over the edge and just lower the meter to the desired start height and then let go.  Just use a rope 5m longer than the height of the platform and tie it off a couple of metres away from the drop point to keep the excess rope out of the fall path.  No rope dragging to slow anything down.  It's still not technically 'perfect', but it will be pretty darn close.
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Re: EEVblog #868 - Keysight U1282A Multimeter Torture Test
« Reply #96 on: April 11, 2016, 02:12:12 pm »
Dave, just a thought...
When you threw it off the dam, why not let it free fall *without* the tether rope attached, and have your assistant at the bottom just hook it back on to the rope to let you tow it back to the top?

It allowed different height drops.
That was last minute change in plans on the way there.
I did ultimately throw it form the top without the cord, twice in fact.
 

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Re: EEVblog #868 - Keysight U1282A Multimeter Torture Test
« Reply #97 on: April 11, 2016, 02:26:45 pm »
I like that lady in the video.  :-*

Yeah was thinking the same, fuck the multimeter that's one hot chick  :-+

Personal trainer, she will take you to the gym and in 2 days you will absolutely hate her guts. If you survive 2 months you will grudgingly like her and after 6 months you will thank her for the lifestyle change. You will also be a lot fitter as well, and capable of running a 40km marathon in some semblance of reasonable time as well.

No, thats hardly going to happen. I am military trained person, when I survived drill training in the army than I can survive everything. I was also in a war zone and after that life has also led to some really challenging physical activities. Right now I think I am in a better shape than Dave is.

But nevermind about that, watching this video some things has became clearer to me: There is nothing more sexier than a good looking girl holding a multimeter  :-+
 
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Re: EEVblog #868 - Keysight U1282A Multimeter Torture Test
« Reply #98 on: April 11, 2016, 02:59:13 pm »
Err, the display finally failed on the 30m drop.
That is correct, i didn't mean to be a troll but maybe i was not clear enough about what i meant. I'll try again: I wanted to see what was the first thing breaking in the multimeter that renedered it useless. (most likely that resistor network but we may never know) I know you could not just go back to lab after each drop to tear it down and show us the results but either way that was the only thing bugging me.
 

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Re: EEVblog #868 - Keysight U1282A Multimeter Torture Test
« Reply #99 on: April 11, 2016, 03:10:09 pm »
You mean that same new low I reached 6 years ago when I did almost exactly the same video?
The same video that is quite famous and made a good part of my reputation?
The same video that the #1 requested thing people want to see when they visit the lab is the beat up Fluke 28?
The same video people often credit as one of their favourite episodes?
That new low point?

No, as I said, a new one, not the same one, it is lower and lower each year.
You argue that the video is famous and many people liked it... so what, does that make it a good video, if anything that only proves my point, the more stupid a video is, the more views it has.
I get it you make more money this way, but your reputation is going down, fast, when was the last time you did something of value.
I am pretty sure that you know exactly what I am talking about.


You're new here, right?
Nope, I am a long time fan, or hater ? (not sure, you decide)
I am silent most of the time, commenting mostly when somthing/someone pisses me off.
You don't have to get so defensive every time someone doesn't like your video, just take the good with the bad.



Yup, you're new here. Welcome.
Would you like me to create a safe space for you?

Nope I am not new here, but thanks.
No, I don't need a safe space (i am not sure what that is) you just focus your energy on making quality videos.
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