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EEVblog => EEVblog Specific => Topic started by: EEVblog on March 31, 2017, 10:02:49 am
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An INSANE dumpster diving find! $300k worth!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_S9YsD9Y0c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_S9YsD9Y0c)
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Fantastic find. Really amazing. And I don't believe a word of it. What's the real story, Dave ? :-X
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Nice scope to see working actually, but nup, not buying it!!
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Arrr, My reply is gone. Then the forum when crazy!
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Obligatory: www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/show-us-your-square-wave/ (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/show-us-your-square-wave/)
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Will it blend?
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Thank goodness you found it. I got a bit drunk in the workshop last night and mislaid it. Please could I ask that you to send it back to me. I will, of course, reimburse you for the shipping costs.
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Nice try, Dave! :clap: How did you get it? :o
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Will it blend?
For $300000, it will do your taxes, your laundry, and drive you to work every day.
But it won't blend.
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Nice scope, however. Would have loved to have one to debug that damn NVMe to USB 3 converter...
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The firmware is all labeled Keysight.... That's relatively new
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I mean, it really looks like April fools, but how did he then actually get someone to lend him such gear to first drop in a dumpster and then open up the case?
Dave did note that there were no seals to break when getting the cover off..... and the dumpster secret might be to not actually throw it in there. :)
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That will fit just nicely in the Balrose office.
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Hahahaha, you almost got me, but when you found the password just like that I realized that this was simply not possible ;D ;D
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:-DD You got me Dave! Damn!
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I want it. I need to probe some PC133 SDRAM, but my DS1054Z just wasn't cutting it.
If it is not an April Fools prank.
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Ah stupid timezones! Hook, line and sinker! :)
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Looks nice, but I am trying to decide between this and a Tektronix 465 from craigslist. Can you do a comparison of the two?
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not gonna fall for this dave :P but I did nearly finish my 100 watt led flashlight build :) just finishing touches left..
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"Have never found a scope in the dumpster"? Isn't the dumpster your primary source of scopes? ;) Way to ruin your own long-running joke :)
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Isn't it traditional that dumpster finds that Dave doesn't want get given away....?
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Thats so filthy theres no way its not going to be restricted content!
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Dave hasn't gone Harry Potter on it. I'm pretty sure it has terrible microphonics issues when tapped with a pointer ;)
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From the serial, the factory calibration date is 6/17/10. The SW version running is 05.75.00402 which was released on 2/24/17 (recent!). Current SW is 06.00.00628 which was released 3/29/17. End of support for this model is 3/1/21.
This looks like a Keysight demo unit to me. (1) Keysight rep card on top, (2) no corporate asset tag, (3) no one needs / buys that many SW options for one unit, (4) manufactured right at the start of the product lifecycle.
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Sniff sniff, I smell boolsheet! :)
Here's a couple of tells:
+ The rear housing screws were removed before trying to power on, presumably to introduce the supply fault.
+ Sticky tape has been added to conceal the windows COA sticker, but not the S/N (the roll of tape is sitting on Dave's shelf).
+ If I'm reading it right, the scope has only had one cal from new (June 2010). It seems unlikely a working lab would spend $300k and never calibrate it.
+ The test lead he cobbled together looks suspiciously like the main cable from an Agilent RF power rail probe.
Better give Keysight their demo unit back.
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Hi there,
Could it be the clue of this video is in the first few seconds? Dave says something like:"Sorry for the quack, euh crap quality". A quack being a charlatan? He is jerking our pants.
Good one Dave.
Happy 1st of April! Greetings from Belgium.
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Sniff sniff, I smell boolsheet! :)
Here's a couple of tells:
+ The rear housing screws were removed before trying to power on, presumably to introduce the supply fault.
+ Sticky tape has been added to conceal the windows COA sticker, but not the S/N (the roll of tape is sitting on Dave's shelf).
+ If I'm reading it right, the scope has only had one cal from new (June 2010). It seems unlikely a working lab would spend $300k and never calibrate it.
+ The test lead he cobbled together looks suspiciously like the main cable from an Agilent RF power rail probe.
Better give Keysight their demo unit back.
:palm:
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I believe he did find it in the dumpster.
(April Fools!!!)
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The site says April Fools, the forum says April Fools but for some reason I'm completely missing the joke here... Anyway thanks for a closer look at such a nice device, you definitely don't get so see something like this close and upfront very often... :clap:
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It's funny how some of you guys just can't help the urge of letting everyone know how "smart" you are and ruining the fun for the others :P
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I'm realy curios how Dave did get this one
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Is this an April fools?
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Sniff sniff, I smell boolsheet! :)
Here's a couple of tells:
+ The rear housing screws were removed before trying to power on, presumably to introduce the supply fault.
+ Sticky tape has been added to conceal the windows COA sticker, but not the S/N (the roll of tape is sitting on Dave's shelf).
+ If I'm reading it right, the scope has only had one cal from new (June 2010). It seems unlikely a working lab would spend $300k and never calibrate it.
+ The test lead he cobbled together looks suspiciously like the main cable from an Agilent RF power rail probe.
Better give Keysight their demo unit back.
Also the clickbait gold. most unlike David.
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Now the big question is , what are you going to do with
1.21GWatts 32GHz scope :-//
https://youtu.be/x6SXG3WKucg
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Now the big question is , what are you going to do with 1.21GWatts 32GHz scope :-//
Take it apart, obviously
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:-DD
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Lucky "Bastage", I don't want to live any more.
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Ah, it's that time of the year again.
Doesn't even have digital channels. And for the price of the probes, you can buy a brand new MSOX3034T. And it is loud. The Core 2 duo inside, is obsolete. Ultimately, it is useless, so I guess, scope torture test?
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Nice find Dave....
As to what to do with it...
Talk to Pooch over at the Signal Path Blog, maybe Y'all can do some horse trading.... :)
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Nice find, altough I believe this one is not gravity compensated, maybe that's why they throw it away (?)
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Connecting SMA cable to K inputs? RF people surely :palm: :scared: :)
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Is this an April fools?
He got me. I always forget that Australia lives in the future compared to Europe :)
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Should have looked at the calendar before posting.
:palm:
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Isn't it traditional that dumpster finds that Dave doesn't want get given away....?
When I posted this ^ ^ ^ it was reply #25. Now its #21.
Some people have been recanting.....!
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Perchance this be an early April first jape.
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Perchance this be an early April first jape.
Depends on which side of the international date line you call home. Not early for Dave.
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DAMN, just saw the date :-(
And I thought porn scenarios were FINALLY about to become real too!
Bummer. :--
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Just imagine how carefully Dave put it in the dumpster before taking the pic and then pulling it out!
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While on the topic of scopes like this, for the price they charge, the least they could do is include a top of the line CPU and GPU, along with some liquid cooling in order to handle a decent overclock. The screen should be 4K 120hz with 100% adobe RGB coverage, and it should have at least 128GB of RAM in order to also handle other useful applications such as maya and adobe premiere.
They should also give it larger 120mm-140mm fans for lower noise levels, and the buttons and allow for RGB color choices.
Or if needed, liquid cool the entire system with a custom loop leading to 2 420mm radiators, that way one side or the top can have 6 140mm fans that can run at a low speed to keep things quiet.. The other side can then get tempered glass side panels to show off the RGB case lighting.
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Just imagine how carefully Dave put it in the dumpster before taking the pic and then pulling it out!
That was the thing definitely worth watching!
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What day is it? :popcorn:
(International Arduino day, of course...!)
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That's the machine i used to test the Jim williams pulse generator....
(http://siliconvalleygarage.com/_Media/pgmk2_med_hr.png)
(http://siliconvalleygarage.com/_Media/monster_med_hr.png)
you need the cables for that thing and the attenuator.. 600$ for a 3ft coax ...
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Now the big question is , what are you going to do with 1.21GWatts 32GHz scope :-//
Whack it good! Big scope, big bandwidth, BIG STICK! :-+
(Hint: it works better in presence of a AgilentKeysight rep)
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you need the cables for that thing and the attenuator.. 600$ for a 3ft coax ...
Why don't the people why buy that equipment not tell those companies to at least not price gouge them on the accessories, especially after gouging everyone to astronomical levels for the scope itself?
They should at least sell the various cables, probes and other items of like $3-$5 each. or go with the standard pricing for high quality cables and do $1 per foot.
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I see that you guys down under are a day ahead of us here in California which makes it April fools!
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I was all ready to get upset, he had me going through some real dissonance there - "Is Dave making stuff up now for views?" "He has always been so honest, why would he do this?" "Did he really find that scope?" "Maybe I'm just jealous and can't accept it" "No way someone tosses a scope like that" "Ohhhhh riiiggghhhht - son of a bitch!"
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Does it come with Russian Trigger option as standard? :popcorn:
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I'd just toss it back in the dumpster. Couldn't possibly afford the probes.
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He had me up until he said you can't put a scope like that on eBay.
You can put anything on eBay.
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I think the world needs to know what happens if you go beyond that +/- 5V input rating. For science.
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Does it trigger if you hit it?
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I would like for you to try and upgrade the thing. Image the HDD e.t.c. And jam in like a new Core i3-i7 in it, just to see how much snappier it'll go. Also an SSD. After all it's a PC with a bunch of incredibly expensive peripherals.
I just want to see how fast it'll boot, and how responsive it'll be. No matter what day it is :)
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1 april :-DD
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You had me for a while and I was like "oh man, WTF?! that is just amazing, could it be another giveaway? naah, I wonder how much he's gonna sell it for and what he'll do with all that money.. wait a minut, this is too good to be true.. what date is it? ah, you cheeky bastard" :D
Good one! :-DD
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i'll give you about tree fiddy for it
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DROP TEST!
DROP TEST!
DROP TEST!
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It looks extremely dangerous and may attack at any time, so we must deal with it :-DD
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Oh, no! What did Daniel Bogdanoff do this time?!? Trying to give Dave a heart attack?
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Do I have to wait a day to say it?
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Do you have a fish tank, or even a McDonald's hamburger and fries. I want to see live goldfish on top or Dave use it a lunch surface while working at the bench. Don't spill the rootbeer.
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And the date is?..???????
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I left a suggestion to rent the scope out in a comment on the video, only to realize a few minutes later that the date would be April 1st in Australia... :-DD
Good on ya, Dave, for the best April Fools I've seen in years.
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:-DD
Fooled me!
I hope he does a tear down of the front end. I want to see how they make things work at those speeds.
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Dave - Anytime you have the spare time you can join me for a dumpster dive up in the local business park in Sophia Antipolis - you seem to have the gift for it! ;)
Now to the real question: how carefully did you place it in the dumpster before start of filming? I would say quite carefully...
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Happy 1st of April! Greetings from Belgium.
Today its 31.03.17. :-//
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keep it :clap: & dispose of a lesser scope IF space in the lab is limited .
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This was up here on YouTube in Australia before April 1st so it doesn't qualify as an April fools joke....... :box:
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Nice find, altough I believe this one is not gravity compensated, maybe that's why they throw it away (?)
Oh, it is, but the compensation is hemisphere specific so you have to swap the compensator out if you move hemispheres with it. Perhaps that's why it was in the dumpster, it's got a northern hemisphere compensator in it?
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Is this an April fools?
He got me. I always forget that Australia lives in the future compared to Europe :)
Except in parts of Queensland, where it's still 1958. :)
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He had me up until he said you can't put a scope like that on eBay.
You can put anything on eBay.
Oh yeah? Try putting your wife on eBay. :)
Give us a long enough heads up beforehand though, so we've got time to buy some popcorn. >:D
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This was up here on YouTube in Australia before April 1st so it doesn't qualify as an April fools joke....... :box:
It's called "lead time".
Dave has to plan the release so that it can play out on the appropriate date all around the world. Remember, too, that New Zealand is 2 hours ahead of Eastern Australia.
People who are confused by the date need to broaden their outlook. After all, this is a global forum.
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:-//
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so this is all theatrical for April 1st :o .......... :palm:
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Next year I'm hoping Dave shows up at Mike's and hit's him in the face with a pie, preferably strawberry.
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Install Linux on it and use it as a web server. :-DD
Seriously though, that's a serious bit of kit. Say someone did come across something like this or you simply have no warranty left and the drive dies, are you pretty much SOL?
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What kind of idiot people/company do that ? they can't be serious in electronic job if they don't even open the case to see for a blown fuse or loosy connector! Seriously, find there name as we can laugh at them !
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Oh, you got me, I just see the date... :palm: :palm: :palm:
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This is probably an april fools prank
You'd be surprised the stuff companies throw out, usually some stupid reasoning and the fact that they have a lot of money. Easier for them to just buy a new one than to deal with troubleshooting it.
And it's not like it's that great of a scope anyway, it can't even get into the 40gig range which is what you'd need for real RF work. >:D
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Can we all go back to the April fools joke of Dave telling us all that he was purchased by Tested.com. Oh that was soooooooo funny. Oh wait. No it wasn't.
|O
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This just in today : Dave Jones has been arrested, and is now locked up in Sydney jail.
A big engineering company in the building that mr. Jones works in has handed over a surveillance video to the police. Although the quality of the video and audio was pretty low (ironically, said company was thinking of asking mr. Jones to fix this), and identification of the perpetrator is difficult, a man can clearly be seen sneaking into the company premises wearing a T-shirt depicting a flux capacitor, whispering something with 'Flynn', then grabbing the scope in question, muttering something with 'dazzler', and sneaking out again.
Investigation is ongoing.
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Yes I read that too, also he mentioned a possible accomplice his uncle Bob he kept rattling about.
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Sooooo much click bait... Soo little time!
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I ain't believing it, why would the the guy in charge, not take it home as a sweet sweet summer time hobby repair project? Just like my uncle, who brought in a nice core 2 duo computer, after the company replaced it, because it didn't output to the screen at right aspect ratio (a limitation of the Enterprise Windows). Installing Linux fixed it.
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This was up here on YouTube in Australia before April 1st so it doesn't qualify as an April fools joke....... :box:
It's called "lead time".
Dave has to plan the release so that it can play out on the appropriate date all around the world. Remember, too, that New Zealand is 2 hours ahead of Eastern Australia.
People who are confused by the date need to broaden their outlook. After all, this is a global forum.
Maybe so, but to be a proper April fools joke it has to happen within the first 12 hours of April the 1st......not the last 2 hours of the 31st of March.......no such thing as lead time with date /time dependant jokes......April Fools jokes don't run to UTC or Greenwich time
The thing was given away in the first few minutes anyway when dave talked about companies nearby that were high end enough to use such a beast without having even looked at the front......but then acting like it was a huge surprise when he realised what it was.......anyway, it was all in good fun and it got me going for a while........well maybe a second or 2 lol
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This was up here on YouTube in Australia before April 1st so it doesn't qualify as an April fools joke....... :box:
It's called "lead time".
Dave has to plan the release so that it can play out on the appropriate date all around the world. Remember, too, that New Zealand is 2 hours ahead of Eastern Australia.
People who are confused by the date need to broaden their outlook. After all, this is a global forum.
Maybe so, but to be a proper April fools joke it has to happen within the first 12 hours of April the 1st......not the last 2 hours of the 31st of March.......
Timezones really are a confusing concept, aren't they?
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I actually saw it come up well before midnight here and though , bit early for a April fools joke, but then though.....oh well I guess NZ gets April 1 a couple of hours before us..........would have been better left until about 11am Sydney time.
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I actually saw it come up well before midnight here and though , bit early for a April fools joke, but then though.....oh well I guess NZ gets April 1 a couple of hours before us..........would have been better left until about 11am Sydney time.
UTC+14 is a real timezone. It was uploaded for that.
Seriously, people really have trouble with this concept.
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Since when was April fools jokes run to UTC or Geenwich time ?
Its a local thing.......
It should have been uploaded to UTC+10 to line up with the jokes location
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I actually saw it come up well before midnight here and though , bit early for a April fools joke, but then though.....oh well I guess NZ gets April 1 a couple of hours before us..........would have been better left until about 11am Sydney time.
UTC+14 is a real timezone. It was uploaded for that.
Seriously, people really have trouble with this concept.
Yes, there is UTC+14 zone, but there isn't a UTC+20 zone, which there would need to have been for the video to appear on 1st April in at least one place. Here in the UTC+8 timezone the video appeared at lunchtime.
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Yeah I get the time concept, but its just rings alarm bells when it doesn't line up with the place of origin.......its a bit like celebrating Christmas on the 24th of Dec at your location......and if Dave lived elsewhere in an unknown location it wouldn't matter.......which in fact it doesn't anyway.
For the record, its 1.25am in the morning here right now, so I am going to bed.....goodnight all :=\
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Talking of chucking stuff out, it's amazing how many people at companies don't know the difference between what something cost, and what that thing is actually now worth!
One company i consult at has a large room full of obsolete gas analysis equipment, that cost something like £500k a pop back in 1995. Today, it is nto supported by the manufacturer, only runs on Win95, and no one left in the company knows how it works, and most of it is probably broken and you can't get spares anylonger. But it can't be thrown out because it is too 'expensive' (despite being actually worthless..... ;-)
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Yeah I get the time concept, but its just rings alarm bells when it doesn't line up with the place of origin.......its a bit like celebrating Christmas on the 24th of Dec at your location......and if Dave lived elsewhere in an unknown location it wouldn't matter.......which in fact it doesn't anyway.
When you have a global presence, your 'location' isn't as significant.
The only way - it would seem - that you would be happy with such 'April Fool' videos is if they are only available to each time zone between the hours of 00:00 and 12:00 in that time zone.
Not really practical and even if you could implement such a thing, it would be rather confusing to have some members actively discussing it while others are unable to even see it until some time later. That, in itself, would be a dead giveaway and defeat the whole purpose.
The answer is simple - just put on your big girl panties and realise we are living in a global community. This involves a series of adjustments in our appreciation of numerous subjects - from language, culture and history to weather, currency and time zones.
UTC+14 is a real timezone. It was uploaded for that.
Seriously, people really have trouble with this concept.
So it seems.
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Yeah I get the time concept, but its just rings alarm bells when it doesn't line up with the place of origin.......its a bit like celebrating Christmas on the 24th of Dec at your location......and if Dave lived elsewhere in an unknown location it wouldn't matter.......which in fact it doesn't anyway.
When you have a global presence, your 'location' isn't as significant.
The only way - it would seem - that you would be happy with such 'April Fool' videos is if they are only available to each time zone between the hours of 00:00 and 12:00 in that time zone.
Not really practical and even if you could implement such a thing, it would be rather confusing to have some members actively discussing it while others are unable to even see it until some time later. That, in itself, would be a dead giveaway and defeat the whole purpose.
The answer is simple - just put on your big girl panties and realise we are living in a global community. This involves a series of adjustments in our appreciation of numerous subjects - from language, culture and history to weather, currency and time zones.
UTC+14 is a real timezone. It was uploaded for that.
Seriously, people really have trouble with this concept.
So it seems.
Ok, I will try again........
For this to be an actual April fools joke, the person telling the joke has to be telling it in the first 12 hours of April 1st or he/she becomes the fool......
To avoid that technicality (which I didn't make up...its just the way it is) the teller who in this case lives in Sydney Australia has to tell the joke at UTC+10 or any time up till 12 hours later to qualify that requirement.
Yep it is a big world and we are all part of it, but the simple fact is if you tell an April fools joke either before or after the time window where you are telling it, you instantly become the fool according to the rules.
I really hate to see anyone blow a gasket over this......really :-DD
PLEASE DAVE PUT US OUT F OUR MISERY 8) :-DD :-DD :-DD
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Really ,nothing to do with the 1st of April & april fool by any chance, Oh Dave !!!!!!!!!!
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Really ,nothing to do with the 1st of April & april fool by any chance, Oh Dave !!!!!!!!!!
Weren't you banned? Twice?
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Talking of chucking stuff out, it's amazing how many people at companies don't know the difference between what something cost, and what that thing is actually now worth!
One company i consult at has a large room full of obsolete gas analysis equipment, that cost something like £500k a pop back in 1995. Today, it is nto supported by the manufacturer, only runs on Win95, and no one left in the company knows how it works, and most of it is probably broken and you can't get spares anylonger. But it can't be thrown out because it is too 'expensive' (despite being actually worthless..... ;-)
If they do eventually throw it out, let me know! :D
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March 26, or 25 depending on where you are living
Phone rings...
Ed: Keysight, Ed Gorbea. How may I help you.
Dave: Hi Ed, it's Dave from the EEVblog.
Ed: Oh, Hi again Dave, what can I do for you.
Dave: Well Ed, I think it is about time I did another scope review. But I need a unit before the end of the month.
Ed: OK. I have a few X1000 demo units. I could send you one of those.
Dave: Well thanks, but I kinda already went to town on that one. And I do not want to review another quack, euh, crap quality scope. I need the duck's guts this time, the best you can get.
Ed: Well... I do have this DSO-X 93204A. I guess I can send you that one but only if you promise to be extra gentle with it. It's a $300k device.
Dave: Hey, don't worry. It's not like I am going to throw it in the bin or anything.
Ed: OK,I will take your word for it. Send me you information and I will ship it ASAP.
Dave: thanks Ed. I will send you an e-mail. I have got your card taped right in front of me here. Have a nice day. Hangs up.
Ed: O Dave, one more thing. Don't take it apart either. It's super sensitive.
Silence...
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There's no way Keysight would ship that scope to Dave just for a joke, so if they did - there has to be more to it. Can't imagine what.
I think it's more likely he got it off some business nearby just before they were sending it off for a recal?
free_electron reminded me of this video:
https://youtu.be/uBYMePUFinQ?t=54s
Where Dave showcases a DSO-X 93204A, he has access to these!
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But it can't be thrown out because it is too 'expensive' (despite being actually worthless..... ;-)
In my company everything that hit end of supplier support gets thrown out regardless of residual value. They do not want to have risks of something going wrong and not able to fix it.
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I think using SMA and especially some random SMA connectors which could be of Chinese quality with this scope was a bad idea. You can ruin the scope connectors that way.
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But it can't be thrown out because it is too 'expensive' (despite being actually worthless..... ;-)
In my company everything that hit end of supplier support gets thrown out regardless of residual value. They do not want to have risks of something going wrong and not able to fix it.
And the address of their dumpster is?
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I'm waiting for the headlines of people getting arrested for lurking around dumpsters of electronics-companies. Now that this thing was found, there'll be lines at the dumpster-room :D
Btw. Dumpster-Find with no use for most applications = Giveaway-time, right? :D
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Btw. Dumpster-Find with no use for most applications = Giveaway-time, right? :D
In my opinion, it should be given to the one who first called boolsheet. ;D
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Putting a video out just before april fools could make it double-april fools? Nooh?
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To avoid that technicality (which I didn't make up...its just the way it is) the teller who in this case lives in Sydney Australia has to tell the joke at UTC+10 or any time up til UTC+22 to qualify that requirement.
Get over it. :palm:
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Get over what ? I have nothing to get over :palm:
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There's no way Keysight would ship that scope to Dave just for a joke, so if they did - there has to be more to it. Can't imagine what.
I'd be surprised if it didn't take two people to get that thing in & out of the dumpster without a hernia - Dave & his local friendly Keysight guy who happened to be in town demoing the scope to a customer perhaps.
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1 April, fools.
Look on EEVblog2 on YouTube, Dave explaines timezones.
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In my company everything that hit end of supplier support gets thrown out regardless of residual value. They do not want to have risks of something going wrong and not able to fix it.
And the address of their dumpster is?
Not so fast :D
The have a recycling company on a contract who collects and removes stuff.
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Ok, I will try again........
For this to be an actual April fools joke, the person telling the joke has to be telling it in the first 12 hours of April 1st or he/she becomes the fool......
To avoid that technicality (which I didn't make up...its just the way it is) the teller who in this case lives in Sydney Australia has to tell the joke at UTC+10 or any time up til UTC+22 to qualify that requirement.
Yep it is a big world and we are all part of it, but the simple fact is if you tell an April fools joke either before or after the time window where you are telling it, you instantly become the fool according to the rules.
Those rules were made up when the impact was entirely local, long before the idea of a global audience was even conceived. Rules need to keep up with the technology - a common failing.
So - the question is .... What would be an appropriate set of rules for April Fool's on a global stage?
If I hear you right, you are saying we stick to the old time constraints as they apply to the prankster's location.
Do we have some alternate suggestions?
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I actually know of a company in Sydney that has a big contract to dispose of all sort of tech waste.
I went in there one day.....its not far from the airport....to look for some small NEC Pasolinks that were decommissioned by Telstra a few years ago and seemed to vanish......anyway, thats why I was there, but had no luck finding them, but as I walked through the place I was totally taken back by the piles of test gear and other high and low end gear sitting on pallets waiting to get shredded......
No amount of crawling , begging or offering money under the table would let me get even one piece of it.......they were very keen to let me know that under the agreement of their contract, every last bit of gear was to be destroyed or they would loose there contract in a heartbeat, and be liable to prosecution as well.
Like all gov departments, the gear was simply replaced under the budget they had to fill each year and the old stuff written off......it was totally unbelievable and a crying shame, and happens a lot more that you would think.
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Ok, I will try again........
For this to be an actual April fools joke, the person telling the joke has to be telling it in the first 12 hours of April 1st or he/she becomes the fool......
To avoid that technicality (which I didn't make up...its just the way it is) the teller who in this case lives in Sydney Australia has to tell the joke at UTC+10 or any time up til UTC+22 to qualify that requirement.
Yep it is a big world and we are all part of it, but the simple fact is if you tell an April fools joke either before or after the time window where you are telling it, you instantly become the fool according to the rules.
Those rules were made up when the impact was entirely local, long before the idea of a global audience was even conceived. Rules need to keep up with the technology - a common failing.
So - the question is .... What would be an appropriate set of rules for April Fool's on a global stage?
If I hear you right, you are saying we stick to the old time constraints as they apply to the prankster's location.
Do we have some alternate suggestions?
No suggestions at all......
Maybe this is one for the EEVblog court of complicated decisions to sort out. :)
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We have several precedents already....
In summary: Dave makes the rules.
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LOL :-DD
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Good job Dave :D
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WHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Where is it defined that april fools jokes should be started at april 1st?
In our country most jokes are started week(s) before and declared april fools at april 1st.
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Where is it defined that april fools jokes should be started at april 1st?
In Australia, while planning may be done many weeks ahead, the actual joke is typically presented before midday on April 1st itself.
In our country most jokes are started week(s) before and declared april fools at april 1st.
That is interesting - and it has a certain appeal.
Do we have any other takes on how April Fool is observed around the world?
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I just looked but internationally a lot of april fools jokes are published days to a week or so before.
Give an example press conference from Richard Bransons expedition to the middle of the earth 30 march 2012 with the follow up press conference would be sunday ( april 1st).
If it is a few days before it is harder to spot and you see that newsagencies and papers fall for it, escalating the stories.
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Well, this year it fell on a Saturday, but during the week there are many on the local radio stations. last year I did a snake trick, using some plastic strapping as the reptile. Receptionist fell for it hook, line and toilet. Then claimed it was no joke, but as I have been the recipient of many attempts in the past I classed this as a win.
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I'd scrub the operating system and install CP/M on it. Also take those funny jacks off the front and glue some banana jacks on for easier access.
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I actually saw it come up well before midnight here and though , bit early for a April fools joke, but then though.....oh well I guess NZ gets April 1 a couple of hours before us..........would have been better left until about 11am Sydney time.
What's makes Sydney people so special? :-//
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I'd be surprised if it didn't take two people to get that thing in & out of the dumpster without a hernia - Dave & his local friendly Keysight guy who happened to be in town demoing the scope to a customer perhaps.
Got it out myself.
No idea who put it in there though...
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Got it out myself.
No idea who put it in there though...
It's the 2nd of April. You can come clean now.
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I actually saw it come up well before midnight here and though , bit early for a April fools joke, but then though.....oh well I guess NZ gets April 1 a couple of hours before us..........would have been better left until about 11am Sydney time.
What's makes Sydney people so special? :-//
His hurt ego. I'm told it's visible from space.
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"Haven't ever found a scope in a dumpster before!"
https://youtu.be/d_S9YsD9Y0c?t=27
Are You sure? Of course we believe You every time.
https://youtu.be/N63dJHbCdbk?t=3
:-BROKE ;D
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I liked it, it was lovely, tongue totally in cheek, test procedure almost a trademark of Dave ( aside from him actually using a multimeter to measure if the SMPS transformer in a scope has an open circuit primary) and a thing of beauty and a joy to behold when he got the case off and had a gander inside.
The loose connector is possible, but I have a suspicion there was a little guy who was there putting it in there first, after doing "the deed" and getting the unit written off, who is mighty unhappy that "his" scope was unceremoniously whipped out of the dumpster before his end of day, so he could go and "find it just lying there" to take home.
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Most obvious double-bluff ever, follow the mastermind :
- Dave really did find a 300k scope in a dumpster, months ago.
- He obviously couldn't resist sharing it with the world.
- Yet, the taxmen would have come knockin', asking for their share. They always do. Easy 50k.
- So what can an honest man do ?
- Make it look like an april fools' joke.
- Dave scores a scope, boasts his incredible luck on April the 1st, fools the taxmen and us all thinking Keysight's behind it. It's brilliant.
- Why is this a list ? Nobody knows.
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The tax man doesn't work like that in Australia.
We don't have that same concern our American friends have with their IRS. For example, we could win $10M in lotto - and we don't pay one cent in tax. Put it in the bank and earn interest, though, and we pay tax on the interest - but only on the interest.
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I actually saw it come up well before midnight here and though , bit early for a April fools joke, but then though.....oh well I guess NZ gets April 1 a couple of hours before us..........would have been better left until about 11am Sydney time.
What's makes Sydney people so special? :-//
1. You live here and you are a special person.
2. What other city has people that throw away $300k scopes.
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Do we have any other takes on how April Fool is observed around the world?
Here in Spain it's on December 28th. :popcorn:
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Do we have any other takes on how April Fool is observed around the world?
Here in Spain it's on December 28th. :popcorn:
Well....
That makes it interesting.
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2. What other city has people that throw away $300k scopes.
In numbers ? I think -1.
All I ever see is, come monday, some poor small screen CRT TV standing on the sidewalk, waiting to be picked up the next day. A horribly disfigured couch that even the stray cats dare not sit or urinate upon. An unidentifiable pole of some sort. Never a $300000 scope with a loose power connector.
Dave has taken all the romance out of it.
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2. What other city has people that throw away $300k scopes.
I've thrown $300k+ items in the dumpster.
They weren't worth anything except to a museum when I threw them out, but that's what they cost new.
(eg. Fully loaded SGI workstations - I had 3 in my house at one point)
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thought this was an April 1 joke .. then remembered 'fake news' is now globally banned .. gotta be for real, wow!
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I have an interested party for you. I was talking with a friend about your amazing piece of luck. He in turn contacted a guy called Ivan, here in Sofia. He will be contacting you or..please email me and I will pass on your information. Good luck and thanks for your videos
Gary
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I have an interested party for you. I was talking with a friend about your amazing piece of luck. He in turn contacted a guy called Ivan, here in Sofia. He will be contacting you or..please email me and I will pass on your information. Good luck and thanks for your videos
Gary
(http://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s480x480/e35/c0.74.597.597/13671190_188461288237575_673615344_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTMxNTIyNDYwMDk5MjYxNDUzNw%3D%3D.2.c)
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I do believe you can sell it on eBay. I have seen electronics shop inventory sold over a million dollars so some one on there might give you a pretty penny. I'd let her ride for 100k.
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I'll give you a 1000 for it:) then I'll dump it and retire.
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I do believe you can sell it on eBay. I have seen electronics shop inventory sold over a million dollars so some one on there might give you a pretty penny. I'd let her ride for 100k.
This was an April Fool.
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Hey does anyone know if Dave still has that $300K O-scope ???
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Yes.
Dave and Dave2 know it.
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You need to look at the date it was released and then consider that Dave's audience is global.
Join the dots....