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Offline AdShea

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Re: EEVblog#160 – 555 Timer Easter Egg?
« Reply #25 on: April 03, 2011, 03:28:53 am »
Are you putting the signal in through the power supply?
 

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Re: EEVblog#160 – 555 Timer Easter Egg?
« Reply #26 on: April 03, 2011, 05:37:39 am »
I posted this in another forum...the response is skeptical.

http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?p=3226304#post3226304
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Re: EEVblog#160 – 555 Timer Easter Egg?
« Reply #27 on: April 03, 2011, 05:52:31 am »
Doesn't seem they are being skeptical as much as they are just being asshats.
 

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Re: EEVblog#160 – 555 Timer Easter Egg?
« Reply #28 on: April 03, 2011, 08:06:02 am »
Are you putting the signal in through the power supply?

Dave used batteries also.
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Re: EEVblog#160 – 555 Timer Easter Egg?
« Reply #29 on: April 03, 2011, 08:35:28 am »
Take a look Here
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Re: EEVblog#160 – 555 Timer Easter Egg?
« Reply #30 on: April 03, 2011, 09:25:44 am »
Could you explain some things? Are you saying there is not only 55.5kHz but also it's harmonics at 111kHz ? sorry but I couldn't understand few words on your video probably due to accent ;) Or maybe you wanted to show Us that there is something injected to the signal through a ground loop of the probes ?
 

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Re: EEVblog#160 – 555 Timer Easter Egg?
« Reply #31 on: April 03, 2011, 09:28:23 am »
It's not my video  :) Just found it on YouTube.
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Re: EEVblog#160 – 555 Timer Easter Egg?
« Reply #32 on: April 03, 2011, 09:56:42 am »
oh, OK :) Any ideas then ?
 

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Re: EEVblog#160 – 555 Timer Easter Egg?
« Reply #33 on: April 03, 2011, 10:41:48 am »
As I understand it he says that it also modulates at 111hz at 111khz carrier ie twice Daves frequency. 55khz could be the fundamental frequency or another harmonic, still not convinced that there isn't some sneaky business going on but it's beyond me, just have to wait for Dave to come clean or someone to crack it........watch this space ;)
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Re: EEVblog#160 – 555 Timer Easter Egg?
« Reply #34 on: April 03, 2011, 10:48:14 am »
Quote from the video author found on youbtube :

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If he has done it like me, than there is a hidden wire to the control voltage pin, from an external sine generator, adjusting the level with another? pot outside the camera view. Of course, if you add a capacitor from this input to ground, the modulating signal will be shorted :-)
 

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Re: EEVblog#160 – 555 Timer Easter Egg?
« Reply #35 on: April 03, 2011, 02:07:28 pm »
Perhaps Daves April Fool will get to be as famous as this
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/april/1/newsid_2819000/2819261.stm
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Re: EEVblog#160 – 555 Timer Easter Egg?
« Reply #36 on: April 03, 2011, 03:36:01 pm »
As I understand it he says that it also modulates at 111hz at 111khz carrier ie twice Daves frequency. 55khz could be the fundamental frequency or another harmonic, still not convinced that there isn't some sneaky business going on but it's beyond me, just have to wait for Dave to come clean or someone to crack it........watch this space ;)
That makes sense, so it/s not just the frequency which changes, varying the voltage on pin 5 also varies the duty cycle which can be detected with a simple RC filter.
 

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Re: EEVblog#160 – 555 Timer Easter Egg?
« Reply #37 on: April 03, 2011, 04:43:06 pm »
Doesn't seem they are being skeptical as much as they are just being asshats.
I found this slightly amusing:

One person: I want to know what brand solder flux that guy is using and how much he's inhaling.
Another person: Holy jeez, I know! He is rather obnoxious.
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Re: EEVblog#160 – 555 Timer Easter Egg?
« Reply #38 on: April 03, 2011, 06:35:49 pm »

I do not detect any extra wires going to the breadboard, but I notice that Dave is working on top of a thin mat.  So I am going to suggest a loop antenna underneath transmitting the 55.5Hz signal.  With the cap missing, the breadboard spring would need to pick up well enough to put a few tens of mV swing onto the control pin (which is connected to the 5k-5k divider internally).
 

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Re: EEVblog#160 – 555 Timer Easter Egg?
« Reply #39 on: April 04, 2011, 03:13:46 am »
Dave must be reading too much of 'Harmonic 695'! Maybe time to get out our tin foil hats :)
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Re: EEVblog#160 – 555 Timer Easter Egg?
« Reply #40 on: April 04, 2011, 04:06:19 am »
Doesn't seem they are being skeptical as much as they are just being asshats.
I found this slightly amusing:

One person: I want to know what brand solder flux that guy is using and how much he's inhaling.
Another person: Holy jeez, I know! He is rather obnoxious.

I get comments like that all the time!
They wouldn't now what enthusiasm is if it bit them on the arse.

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Re: EEVblog#160 – 555 Timer Easter Egg?
« Reply #41 on: April 04, 2011, 06:48:14 am »
Can we get a Detail Sketch (all the values and where you took your measurement).

I am new to electronics and just got myself a oscilloscope and I can't get the same wave form as you did. Sorry n00by speaking.
 

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Re: EEVblog#160 – 555 Timer Easter Egg?
« Reply #42 on: April 04, 2011, 04:13:30 pm »
Very interesting 1/2 second or so at about 2:15 are those wires to the bottom of the bread board? aerial?
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Re: EEVblog#160 – 555 Timer Easter Egg?
« Reply #43 on: April 04, 2011, 04:34:01 pm »
Doesn't seem they are being skeptical as much as they are just being asshats.
I found this slightly amusing:

One person: I want to know what brand solder flux that guy is using and how much he's inhaling.
Another person: Holy jeez, I know! He is rather obnoxious.

I get comments like that all the time!
They wouldn't now what enthusiasm is if it bit them on the arse.

Dave.
Ha! You said arse...
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Re: EEVblog#160 – 555 Timer Easter Egg?
« Reply #44 on: April 04, 2011, 04:55:22 pm »
Very interesting 1/2 second or so at about 2:15 are those wires to the bottom of the bread board? aerial?

haha, busted i think
 

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Re: EEVblog#160 – 555 Timer Easter Egg?
« Reply #45 on: April 04, 2011, 09:25:41 pm »
You meant that ?

 

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Re: EEVblog#160 – 555 Timer Easter Egg?
« Reply #46 on: April 04, 2011, 10:04:52 pm »
Yep! Looks suspiciously like an aerial coil or a pair of wires to me, could be just a wire clipping but the breadboard seems to be stood on some sort of mat. Makes me suspect some sort of magnetic loop or rfid type of thing (running out of ideas so any straw looks good  ;D)
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Re: EEVblog#160 – 555 Timer Easter Egg?
« Reply #47 on: April 06, 2011, 04:38:51 am »
Just listened to the latest AmpHour. Definitely sounds like you nailed it FreeThinker!

Good thing Dave doesn't work for the CIA/NSA/FBI.  ;D
 

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Re: EEVblog#160 – 555 Timer Easter Egg?
« Reply #48 on: April 06, 2011, 08:36:27 pm »
Yahhh! Do I get a prize? Lol. .......perhaps a Tshirt 'I Sussed Dave 04/2011' (With my luck it would be one of those bloody lcd's he's trying to shift) Looking forward to to the reveal to find out exactly how it was done ;D ;D ;D
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Re: EEVblog#160 – 555 Timer Easter Egg?
« Reply #49 on: April 08, 2011, 01:16:21 am »
Check out my video response www.n1ir.com . Breadboarded multiple times multiple chips and still could not get it to oscillate? Watch video 7 and see me build it up. Might be a ground loop or picking up the mains (50 hz) all I can think of?

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