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EEVBLOG2 Youtube Silver Dislike Button Award !
« on: January 31, 2022, 08:03:54 am »
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Interesting Dave dedicated the EEVBLOG2 award to the bring back the dislike count.


Don't know how to embed Odysee video:
odysee.com/@eevblog:7/youtube-silver-dislike-button-award-!:4

Just found this and no chance of it returning:
https://www.pcmag.com/news/youtube-ceo-defends-hiding-dislike-count-says-it-reduced-harassment
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YouTube CEO Defends Hiding Dislike Count, Says It Reduced Harassment
Susan Wojcicki also claims the dislike count wasn't always useful in determining what to watch.
Michael Kan
By Michael Kan
January 25, 2022

Don’t count on YouTube to backtrack on hiding the dislike count. On Tuesday, the video platform’s CEO defended the change by downplaying the dislike count’s usefulness.  “Some of you mention dislikes help you decide what to watch,” said YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki. “But dislikes were never shown to people on the homepage, search results, up next screen, where users were most likely to choose a video.”

Wojcicki made the statement while discussing the platform’s priorities for 2022. She acknowledged that the November decision to hide dislike counts on videos was “controversial.” But she argued it was the right action to take, citing the need to stop online harassment.  “We also saw the dislike count harming parts of our ecosystem through dislike attacks as people actively work to drive up the number of dislikes on a creator’s video,” she said. “And these dislike attacks often targeted smaller creators and those just getting started.” 

In addition, Wojcicki said the dislike count wasn’t the best barometer to determine a video’s quality. “People dislike videos for many reasons, including some that have nothing to do with the video, which means it’s not always an accurate way to select videos to watch,” she wrote in a related blog post.

Critics disagree. Among them are YouTube co-founder Jawed Karim, who called the decision to hide the dislike count a “stupid idea” back in November. “The ability to easily and quickly identify bad content is an essential feature of a user-generated content platform. Why? Because not all user-generated content is good. It can't be. In fact, most of it is not good,” he wrote.

Karim also predicted hiding the dislike count will cause interest in YouTube to fall. However, in Tuesday’s post, Wojcicki said viewership on YouTube isn’t expected to change, citing the company’s internal research. “Every way we looked at it, we did not see a meaningful difference in viewership, regardless of whether or not there was a public dislike count. And importantly, it reduced dislike attacks  :bullshit:, 1” she wrote.

If you must have the dislike count, a third-party developer came up with a browser extension that can re-add the function to your YouTube videos. The data for the extension comes from archived dislike stats taken directly from Google and from other users who’ve installed the extension. Otherwise only a video's creator can see the dislike counts on a video.

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In addition, Wojcicki said the dislike count wasn’t the best barometer to determine a video’s quality. But dislikes were never shown to people on the homepage, search results, up next screen, where users were most likely to choose a video.

What an excuse... So I am going to pick a video and be happy with it regardless of what the poll says about it and not be warned.

1: Now how do they know that and especially the read if they haven't published the review and data on this or am I missing something?

Reducing the dislike attacks immediately...  sounds to me more like a fairy tale like they're taking us viewers like fools.


What do you think?

Let me remind of this scam: Rx7man, I think I found a new one
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/dodgy-technology/i-think-i-found-a-new-one/[/url]
youtube.com/watch?v=9FsQZXV2uP4

Youtube video still there despite reporting it to Youtube and the BBC for ripping of their theme.



https://www.eevblog.com/forum/dodgy-technology/i-think-i-found-a-new-one

15/04/21:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoXKW-g9Dvgezvz7-6BGlLw/about]https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoXKW-g9Dvgezvz7-6BGlLw/about

31/01/22 Youtube scammer is now aware of comments in the discussion and has removed it:



More power to this scammer and many others like it whether it is in the search results or hidden who don't have the Return to Youtube extension and I believe one day they might even crack down on that in their Chromestore.


I found this and I am bit confused:
https://support.google.com/youtube/thread/134791097/update-to-youtube-dislike-counts?hl=en
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Developers: If you’re using the YouTube API for dislikes, you will no longer have access to public dislike data beginning on December 13th. Your end users will still be able to view dislike data related to their own content on authenticated API requests. You can apply for an exemption (to have dislike data on non-authenticated calls) as long as you don’t display or share dislike data with your end users.

Are they saying to the developers not to share the dislike data?
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Re: EEVBLOG2 Youtube Silver Dislike Button Award !
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2022, 02:10:04 am »
Ermmm... rigggght. Guess it was a slow day at the lab.
 

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Re: EEVBLOG2 Youtube Silver Dislike Button Award !
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2022, 02:27:58 am »
If everyone becomes a "developer", they can see the dislike counts (and won't have to share them with anyone.)
 

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Re: EEVBLOG2 Youtube Silver Dislike Button Award !
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2022, 02:28:28 am »
Interesting Dave dedicated the EEVBLOG2 award to the bring back the dislike count.

Don't know how to embed Odysee video:
odysee.com/@eevblog:7/youtube-silver-dislike-button-award-!:4

Just found this and no chance of it returning:
https://www.pcmag.com/news/youtube-ceo-defends-hiding-dislike-count-says-it-reduced-harassment
Quote
YouTube CEO Defends Hiding Dislike Count, Says It Reduced Harassment
Susan Wojcicki also claims the dislike count wasn't always useful in determining what to watch.
Michael Kan
By Michael Kan
January 25, 2022

Don’t count on YouTube to backtrack on hiding the dislike count. On Tuesday, the video platform’s CEO defended the change by downplaying the dislike count’s usefulness.  “Some of you mention dislikes help you decide what to watch,” said YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki. “But dislikes were never shown to people on the homepage, search results, up next screen, where users were most likely to choose a video.”

Well I dislike what she has to say.   :-- :-DD

Why can't the "like" work in the same biased way? People can "like" their friends and other channels just because they found one video that was good and they want to "help" them. Gimme a break!  :palm:
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