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Offline G7PSK

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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2014, 12:48:40 pm »
Just change your name to Berk Obarmy and you should be OK. The probability is that you are the David Jones on the US government watch list due to EEVblog comments. It would not supprise me if all members on the blog are watched.
 

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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2014, 12:50:59 pm »
Truly appalling, I'm ashamed almost daily to be associated with such BS as an American.    :--    :palm:

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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2014, 01:05:41 pm »
Hi,

It is well known in the intelligence community that the uCurrent records video, phone conversations and email traffic and sends in it by satellite uplink to some covert government agencies.   :-DD

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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2014, 01:08:13 pm »
what about people carrying names like "Ahmet", "Hasan", "Mehmet" or "Mohamed"?

 

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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2014, 01:09:17 pm »
It's probably part of all the Five Eyes bullshit ...

I hope the UK gets out of the EU soon, I don't think having an US state in the EU makes sense.
 

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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2014, 01:12:26 pm »
Just use a different name, like Joan Daves or something like that and you're fine  :-DD
On a more serious side though, if it were me I would ask the US embassy about this.
If you ever want to travel to the US and you're grounded at the airport when arriving and sent back that is pretty expensive to find out.
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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2014, 01:18:27 pm »
One of the large organisation here started to use new American software a few months ago. It also blocks accounts with names which appear on the NSA watch list.  It took them about a month to realise what the problem was!
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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2014, 01:21:09 pm »
yeah like like that ' the crazy Aussie bloke'

i wonder if it because you called yanks out on security theatre
or maybe you back to future t shirts
seriously though do these buggers have their heads up their arses is it common practise for customers of electronic component disturbers to check against watch lists seems more panic and fearmongering to me.     
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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2014, 01:21:57 pm »
Davy Jones. They think you're a pirate.

 

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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2014, 01:31:28 pm »
Let's hope that old scoundrel "Goods in" doesn't get in the list...
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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2014, 01:37:18 pm »
Just use a different name, like Joan Daves or something like that and you're fine  :-DD
On a more serious side though, if it were me I would ask the US embassy about this.
If you ever want to travel to the US and you're grounded at the airport when arriving and sent back that is pretty expensive to find out.

They would likely stonewall him. The US government doesn't tell even its own citizens whether they are or are not on some watchlist.  I doubt they would even bother to reply to a non-citizen.

This is just one recent high-profile case: http://blog.sfgate.com/stew/2014/02/07/she-got-on-the-no-fly-list-because-the-fbi-checked-the-wrong-box/

This watchlist craze is just absurd (it is not like a future underpants bomber goes to buy parts on Digikey, with his real name and address!) and private companies getting into it should be publicly shamed.








 

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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2014, 01:59:34 pm »
Davy Jones. They think you're a pirate.

Maybe they think he's that guy from "The Monkees."  That radical, hippy band from the 60s.


(I hope at least one person is old enough and remembers them to understand how silly that is)
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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2014, 02:15:09 pm »
Yes, I remember.
And don't forget Mr Bowie's real name.
 

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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2014, 03:20:01 pm »

Maybe they think he's that guy from "The Monkees."  That radical, hippy band from the 60s.


(I hope at least one person is old enough and remembers them to understand how silly that is)

a guy at work started wearing a woolen ski cap every day to work (we did have some heating problems during our winter) and I started calling him 'nesmith'.  he didn't get the joke, sigh; and I had to explain it to him.
 

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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2014, 03:43:14 pm »
It is starting to get ridiculous. I mean in the 21 century we start to build COCOM list again, this time against individuals. And it is really troubling, that Farnell does that.
Not so long ago I've tried to order a MOSFET driver from digi-key. There was like 5000 on stock. Logged in on the local site, there was 0. How come? They dont export it to EU (to a f* NATO country) because military applications. I ended up using the same driver, but it had TTL inputs instead CMOS or vice-versa. That was not military stuff.
 

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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2014, 04:33:45 pm »
It's rediculas the us government has far far far far far too much power, they should get ther fat noses out of other people's business, not that dave did anything wrong, if they want to be popular then they should not do this.
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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2014, 04:38:16 pm »
want to be popular?

are you talking about school girls or countries, here?

the rich and poweful don't need to be popular.  they have power.  that's much better.

but again, this is not a US phenomenon.  I refuse to travel to the UK due to THEIR nanny-state policies.  there are more cameras watching brits (per sq unit of space) than anywhere else.  and its infectious; other countries are picking up on this and doing essentially the same thing.

fear is catchy and rule by fear is a hard-to-resist thing for those who want easy control of the population.

it sucks that america has gone down this path, but its not exclusive to the US by any stretch.
 

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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2014, 04:40:27 pm »
What makes you think the "David Jones" on the list wasn't referring to you?

Open source hardware? Environmentalism? A publication to reach the masses?  "I’m too honest and outspoken for my own good."?

Yup... I think I know which David Jones is on their list....


 

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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2014, 04:43:50 pm »
The thing is you are much safer traveling here than the US as your not likely to be stopped by border control like I was for no apparent reason, I also hated the the way the police and security treat everyone it's enough to put anyone of coming to your so called "great" country, you feel much more secure here than in the us where you fear the police and security.
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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #20 on: February 24, 2014, 04:44:50 pm »
What makes you think the "David Jones" on the list wasn't referring to you?

Open source hardware? Environmentalism? A publication to reach the masses?  "I’m too honest and outspoken for my own good."?

Yup... I think I know which David Jones is on their list....
There are probably a million dave jones'
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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #21 on: February 24, 2014, 04:50:47 pm »
I've had similar ball-aches when I've bought stuff from the States... And that was just bearings and a few digi-key components... The hassle I went through to get those parts! Never heard of WMD (weapons of mass destruction) that use 6502 bearings, resistors, some TTL logic a few MOSFETS and some LED's!!

The UK bends over happily for the US every-time, I can never understand why... And then UK government allows the US to spy on UK companies... And GCHQ quite happily spies on everybody within the country... A nanny state? More like a dictatorship disguised! And ehe damned EU is a complete and utter waste of time effort and money and introducing barmy and pointless laws that nobody in any other country takes any notice of apart from out soft-in-the-head government... What has happened to the UK?? 
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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #22 on: February 24, 2014, 04:52:03 pm »
That's interesting, they are still using one of those old 3270 systems, probably with an expensive IBM mainframe system somewhere. I thought they were all replaced by cheap standard Unix systems and web browser interfaces by now.
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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #23 on: February 24, 2014, 04:56:53 pm »

The UK bends over happily for the US every-time, I can never understand why... ?

A is not suppose to spy on A's citizens but not-A is ok.  sed 's/A/B/g' and then it all makes sense.
 

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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #24 on: February 24, 2014, 05:35:19 pm »
Dave, are you sure you are not a frontman for the Iranian nuclear program? This may explain why the CIA fed you with faulty components



Seriously, element 14 is an international company that operates also in the US. Claiming that 'but it's another subsidiary of us that sold it to suspect X' will not hold water. Element 14 should improve their procedures. Faster human review, having clearance on file, etc. With proper procedures they could make invisible to the customer.

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