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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #76 on: February 25, 2014, 08:42:48 pm »

 How do you know it's not some NSA server,crook or cop? Eventually if you are using your ISP to connect no matter how many hoops you jump through you will always be traceable.

fully agreed and understood.

none of us can easily (or effectively) hide from the powerful nsa.  that's not my goal.

my goal is to keep my comms anonymous to -everyone else-.  that's easily do-able.  no one else has the power of the nsa or the three letter agencies.  but comcast, pacbell, time warner (etc) - those are easily worked around and their 'deep packet inspection' can be foiled with simple end to end encryption - such as what a vpn provides.
 

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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #77 on: February 25, 2014, 09:35:55 pm »
looks like hack-a-day is covering this topic:

Seems everyone is covering it, including conspiricy theory central infowars.com
People just love this sort of stuff!
Either way it's turning out pretty embarrassing for Element 14 who haven't responded yet. The longer it takes them I suspect the more people will think that "proves" the story about the list being the governments is true.
 

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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #78 on: February 25, 2014, 09:38:29 pm »
sunshine is the best disinfectant.

or, so they say.

shining light on this absurdity might help.  so I'm glad its being covered far and wide.

 

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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #79 on: February 25, 2014, 09:53:00 pm »
Of course the really scary thing is that the people who are supposedly in charge of security are such bumbling dickheads that they think stuff like this achieves anything useful.
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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #80 on: February 25, 2014, 11:12:40 pm »
For those who thought this was a joke or they were mistaken, no it's real, the Element 14 MD has confirmed it.
It's called restricted party screening apparently:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restricted_Party

 

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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #81 on: February 25, 2014, 11:19:35 pm »
well, its like the old python song: "every schottky is sacred.  every schottky is great.  if even one goes missing, the DHS gets quite irate!"
 

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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #82 on: February 26, 2014, 12:30:18 am »
So what was the trouble with Flir E8 stuck in customs again Dave? Seems like the dots are starting to connect :)
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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #83 on: February 26, 2014, 01:09:59 am »
So what was the trouble with Flir E8 stuck in customs again Dave? Seems like the dots are starting to connect :)

Nope, that was just the usual $1000 customs limit.
 

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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #84 on: February 26, 2014, 01:17:22 am »
For those who thought this was a joke or they were mistaken, no it's real, the Element 14 MD has confirmed it.
It's called restricted party screening apparently:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restricted_Party
Sounds really serious Dave, will this affect other parties like Digikey, Mouser etc ?

Or your other main page American sponsors ?  :palm:

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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #85 on: February 26, 2014, 01:24:26 am »
Sounds really serious Dave, will this affect other parties like Digikey, Mouser etc ?
Or your other main page American sponsors ?  :palm:

Nope, no one cares, business as usual.
 

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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #86 on: February 26, 2014, 01:33:36 am »
As a Canadian, when ordering from Digikey, I have to check a box certifying that I'm not going to export these components outside of Canada.  I'm not exactly sure what good this is going to do.  Is the simple act of checking a box going to stop the export of critical bomb-making components out of country?

I have to do this when buying direct from Texas Instruments. And I live inside the US.

Of course I'm in Arizona... where you can get stopped for driving while Mexican, denied goods because you're gay, etc... I got questioned (in Spanish a couple of times) no less than 6 times one day while taking panoramic photos too close to the border fence.
 

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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #87 on: February 26, 2014, 03:45:01 am »
EEVblog LAB INTERNET SHUTDOWN BECAUSE DAVE TOLD THE TRUTH

https://twitter.com/eevblog/status/438502467236405248

https://twitter.com/eevblog/status/438507198797185024

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Lab internet still out. Running on my backup 4G dongle until it's fixed. 12GB limit for the whole year, so better not tweet much...


NSA installed special tracking and interception just for Dave.  :-DD
 

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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #88 on: February 26, 2014, 04:04:45 am »
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Lab internet still out. Running on my backup 4G dongle until it's fixed. 12GB limit for the whole year, so better not tweet much...


NSA installed special tracking and interception just for Dave.  :-DD

Great news !!!  :clap:

Now Dave can permanently terminate his iffy daily backup of the eevblog web site & forum, it will be secured & well maintained at NSA's storage.  >:D

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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #89 on: February 26, 2014, 06:01:54 am »
I wonder if we can order fully equipped fighters or tanks, but I'm afraid to write it into google.

In the US, you can own and operate nearly fully operational fighter jets. Among a short list of other rules -- making it legal for import -- the weapon hard points have to be "disabled" (an ATF rule, if I'm remembering correctly). 

But here's the catch... what disabled means is kind of left up to the owner's interpretation. Some people think it means removal, but other people think it means safety-wiring the weapon-free switch over to the 'safe' position.
« Last Edit: February 26, 2014, 06:28:42 am by CaptnYellowShirt »
 

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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #90 on: February 26, 2014, 06:18:32 am »
So in the US you can own a personal jet fighter. In Canada our military's version of an aircraft carrier is a rowboat with a chunk of plywood on top. The biggest military decision in the country is which coast to put the tank on.
 

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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #91 on: February 26, 2014, 06:47:12 am »
So in the US you can own a personal jet fighter. In Canada our military's version of an aircraft carrier is a rowboat with a chunk of plywood on top. The biggest military decision in the country is which coast to put the tank on.
When did we get a tank ?? :o
 

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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #92 on: February 26, 2014, 06:53:59 am »
Around the same time we got the 3 used submarines with the leaks.
 

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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #93 on: February 26, 2014, 08:17:08 am »
Day as everyday.
yaaawn... Open the project files, search for parts. Read mail. Oh, Maxim has something new. Interesting. Let's order a sample! Oh, Zero Gecko back in stock at DigiKey. Nice. Hmmm... Got email from Maxim "please prove you are not donkey or other camel with beard on this two pages A4 form and have it confirmed by the official". Huh? For line driver? Got an email from DigiKey - similar, but just one page A4. Scratch the head. Why do they need docs for STK, when MCUs were sent no problem. Next two days - try to resolve the issues, project on hold. Guys from DigiKey were nice and finally they confirmed, that in my case I'm purchasing it for myself (the STK, that is) I can be all of the required three persons, signatures which are required. Cheers, guys. Wait... So what was the purpose of this exercise again?
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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #94 on: February 26, 2014, 08:39:29 am »
In the US, you can own and operate nearly fully operational fighter jets.

I believe you can do that in Oz too. Gary Johnston who owns Jaycar Electronics once famously (maybe still does) had a part share in an F4 Phantom he flew on weekends.
 

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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #95 on: February 26, 2014, 09:38:51 am »
Hmmm, 7 pages about the insane US govt watch list bullshit, and so far no obvious paid shills defending the US Govt.
I don't think the NSA/GCHQ are getting their money's worth from these guys:

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140224/17054826340/new-snowden-doc-reveals-how-gchqnsa-use-internet-to-manipulate-deceive-destroy-reputations.shtml

I mean seriously. The taxpayers have a right to expect government employees to do a better job of making anyone criticizing the government, look like crazy people.
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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #96 on: February 26, 2014, 12:28:05 pm »
It's the no-buy list for you, AcHmed.


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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #97 on: February 26, 2014, 12:36:35 pm »
I mean seriously. The taxpayers have a right to expect government employees to do a better job of making anyone criticizing the government, look like crazy people.

I live right on the border with the US and I can tell you the increased BS since 911 is definitely costing them money. I’m not just talking about all the extra cops and border cops and there shiny expensive toys.

I used to regularly take a trip across to shop visit family at least 2 or 4 times a month now I maybe go once a year. I don’t like being treated like a criminal so I’ll spend my money here. I’m surprised that your typical American puts up with this shit. I know it’s hurting the economies of US border towns whose primary income comes from Canadian tourist. This is Canada not some third world shithole. When we come across we are not looking to illegally immigrate we are spending dollars. Your Nazi border guards are costing you money and jobs.

They even harass me when I’m out in my boat. They come alongside and tell me you’re getting close to US territorial waters. We should dam up all the rivers from Canada feeding the great lakes then they won’t need a coast guard presence on there northern border. The great lakes water levels keep going down in spite of massive snow-falls the last three or four years. I think a lot of the water is being used to supply troops deployed in the Middle East on Cheney’s latest economic venture.
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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #98 on: February 26, 2014, 02:10:18 pm »
My first and last order from Element 14 was for my first Raspberry Pi.

Ordered the thing, got everything I've had from other companies, got a delivery date and waited for my Pi. And Waited, And Waited. About a week after my delivery date I contacted them to see when and how they had shipped it as it might of got lost in the post/mis-delivered (I often get post and deliveries for another address) and only then found out that the order was put on hold for some reason.

I Didn't dig into it too much as I was pissed because they hadn't contacted me over the issue I just told them to cancel the order and refund me and I popped over to RS to order my Pi.

My RS order kept me informed all the way and my pie came in a Raspberry Coloured moulded plastic case 2 days before the expected delivery date. Since then I've got my bulk orders from RS and not even bothered to look at Element 14/Farnell.
 

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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #99 on: February 26, 2014, 02:21:39 pm »
As a US Citizen who's ancestry goes back to the crew of the Mayflower I have to say what a disgrace the US has become lately.   Yes I understand the need for all this ludicrous security surrounding Pez dispensers and plastic spoons,   but seriously they need to work more on public relations and not pissing people off all the time.   Their was a time when the US was one of the most respected countries in the world,  anymore with all the new policies it's become the country not to trust.   The sad part is even within the government it's a tiny minority that has created all this drama.   

On an upbeat note their is a place not too far from me there you can catch a ride in a Mig-29.  Go figured,  soviet era jet the US use to compete with now owned by a private US citizen. 

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